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Why do they run? - Why do most couples run when you suggest a real full swap? - Like what was said in the post above..we are not looking to replace our mates. It\'s not the fear of replacement for us either. We tried the first time on sepreate beds, and neither of us liked it very much. We both missed each other as we could hear each other but not see. When we all moved into one bed, it was a million times better. I must confess that I get more enjoyment watching my wife get or give then I do getting it most of the time. We prefer to play all together, not as two seperate couples the whole time, such as both guys playing with one wife while the other wife is pleasing her, etc. and when we do pair off, I love to reach over and hold my wifes hand as she is coming and I love to feel her hands in my hair as I please the other wife...It\'s just what we are into.
We have zero interest in playing apart. We are very much in love and are so tuned into each other that many times it is hard just to seperate and go to work. I know we might be making some of you sick, but that is the way we are and any of you who have met us will back this up.
We are not judging, the last thing anyone needs is more judgement. If you like to split up, more power to you, it\'s not our thing and we have no interest.
If this makes us les than swingers, well then, we are less than swingers and happy :)
Have fun with what ever your thrill is!
Art and Dawn
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - DP & Airtight...yes. DVP..hell no. Just dont want to touch another guy's dick.
Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - I am interested can you give me some more information on It
Meet swingers in Tooele - Where do the swingers hang out in Tooele? - Thanks haven't been able to find any info also
We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - Thanks for all the great advice. We still would love to hear more. In this specific situation we had talked about boundries and thought we all understood them. The first time the guy came and then kinda got wierd as my husband was still with his wife. That should have been a huge red flag for us. The next night they still wanted to hang out and confirmed with us they were cool with everything and how he is just shy. So we decided to give it another try. We thought the way he handled it was very rude and immature. Granted when things get started your feelings may change after you have already started but you should never just walk out. We would have understood and if he would have told us how he felt. We will take this as a learning experience and hope it doesn't happen again. Again, still open to more advice.....
Swinging and the Mormon Church - - [quote=BEARZYKINS][quote=PALS4FUN]I Love belonging to a Church where my publicly professed beliefs match my internal values. It just feels good. :)[/quote]
Wait, there's a swinger church?! ;) [/quote] Yes, the Church of Pals4Fun is now open, please cum worship at the alter! I think that you're just teasing but might be a tad serious in your comment so I wanted to reply although it's a very difficult topic and tough to articulate.
No, I don't know of any church-of-the-wild-and-crazy-swingers. But I DO enjoy belonging to a Church that does not issue broad sweeping edicts REQUIRING certain behaviour by people so as to assure that ya'll are exactly like me. I like differences. I like differing beliefs or opinions. I like the fact that I couldn't be excommunicated for being gay for example. I can not be tossed aside because I swing nor can I toss you aside because you swing or are bisexual.
So all I'm saying is that I enjoy belonging to a Church that outwardly espouses a view that agrees with mine -- I(we) don't have all the answers so I'm not going to condemn you for where you are in your journey of self-discovery and life. I'm going to join you, talk with you, and discuss things. Maybe I'M the one who'll end up changing and you're not "wrong" at all. (in whatever it is that you believe)
Sheez, see? I told ya I'd have trouble articulating it. Sorry to wander from the OP's initial topic on Mormonism. [em]Emo_8[/em]
Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - We actually have a pretty good ratio.
A&E New show about swingers... - neighbors with benefits.... - Didn't know they were even making a show. When does it aire?
Playing Alone - - Couples all have different rules. Many categorically refuse to play alone with ANYONE ever. This is their "security" place. They feel comfortable in the place where they can see each other and "protect" if necessary. It takes some people a long time to get passed this.
It's kind of a 'control' thing leftover from the vanilla life. I'm not saying it's bad, good or indifferent it's just the way it is. Some people take longer to get passed their histories as vanillas than others. As they progress and get more comfortable with themselves, the lifestyle, their partners then they will slowly open up and begin to trust a bit more.
Don't take it personally, that's the key. Many people still hang on to their vanilla background that their partners are their most 'valued' possession. I liken it to my $450 deep sea fishing reel. Sure I'll loan it to someone to use if I'm on the boat with them and can make sure they're taking care of it. Is there anyone I'd just let 'borrow' it out right for the day or weekend? Not a chance in hell.
It takes time to let go of that 'she's/he's mine' get feeling. I think my wife and I took almost 6 years before we got there successfully. We tried many times before that but it never worked out well for either of us. We finally came to a point where it's okay to play separately everything from next room to next state it no longer bothers us. I personally prefer within 30 - 50 miles so she get's home faster for the "after play" sex you're describing (which I really like too.)
You'll have to find a VERY secure, VERY established, VERY strong couple to fulfill your fantasy. They are out there, my wife and I for example but even though we're open to playing separately are we open to YOU playing with her or me separately? That's a different level of trust. Does it mean no? No. It means "maybe" in time it's a possibility. (I'm speaking hypothetically of course.)
Don't worry your "couple" or "person" will come along. You might also try investigating a subsection of the lifestyle called "hotwifeing" while I know few swingers who are hardcore into only hotwifing, there are quite a few that tip toe in that part of the lifestyle (quick def, she plays he doesn't except with her.) That's the post play joy for you and the play and post play joy for her. Most people just bounce between that and swinging. There are people out there just be patient and don't expect it from any current playmates that you have established rules with, they need to progress at their own speed.
Kama Sutra - How many seek the ultimate? - I'm curious as to how many swingers put aside the usual polite chat and routine seduction proceedures to seek out the ultimate pleasures. Are there many out there who are willing to put their conscious minds to rest for the time needed to pursue pure passion with the supreme desire to experience the ultimate all-consuming sensual experience? Share!
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