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Why Be In Utah? - - [quote=EVILDOERS]Actually I've always wondered the same thing about Florida. Substitute the crazy Mormons for the Bibile thumpers from Orlando north into the panhandle, add in the hurricanes, torrential rains, gaters, snakes and mosquitos...besides, I've heard the snow skiing is HORRIBLE there. But I'll bite. 1) No porn. You can buy dirty magazines but (unless you know where to go) hard core x-rate movies are technically illegal to sell. A non-issue in the internet age. If you're still buying dvd's at the local porn emporium you need to maybe update your computer or your media server or something. 2) No real beer. Again a myth. You can only buy 4% (by volume) beer in grocery stores but you can get full strength beer at state liquor stores, restaurants and places like brewery stores. Try getting ANYTHING to drink in some dry towns/counties in the Bible Belt. 3) True to some extent, although Salt Lake City itself is VERY eclectic and quite liberal politically. But at least our LDS lawmakers know basic female anatomy and have somewhat of a grasp of proven basic science. No kooky evangelicals freaking out every time someone mentions birth control or evolution. 4) Most people are afraid of Mormons? Really? I've heard they have horns and the missionaries CAN be a little annoying when you're fucking and they're ringing the doorbell but I don't think people are truly afraid. Besides, contrary to popular belief the swing scene here is alive, active and vibrant. I'd wager that per capita we have more, and more active, swingers than just about any place you can name. All that repressed Mormon sexuality eventually bubbles to the surface and until you've fucked a formerly repressed little Mormon girl who's discovering her sexuality you, my friend, haven't fucked! :-) [/quote] EVILDOERS summed it up nicely. I would also add that the cost of living is lower than most "cool" places in the country. Also, the people here seem to be much more attractive than in most states(it probably has something to do with the water). No matter where you live there will be good and bad qualities, but overall the good outweighs the bad in Utah. It's just what you make of it.

Where are the Midwest Swingers? - - As a couple from Utah, there is quite a surprising amount of swingers here in the state. For whatever reason, which I can't explain, other than "we're just freakier here" there definately seems to be a higher concentration of Utah swingers on this site than some of the others. I guess the moral of the story is "come to Utah!" LOL Just Kidding, good luck finding midwestern swingers, I know they're out there. When you live in Utah, the kink just comes out I guess!

In need of advice - sexual - [quote=ANDRAYWAY_SHANAYNAY]I just have to say it amazes me how judgmental swingers can be... you would think from the outside looking in that they wouldn't be. [/quote] Not judging just yet, I do that and make a fool of myself more than I want to admit. But in this case I am trying to see something real.. Have you considered he might be a single male posing as married? We have seen that a few times over the years. My point is there is no one to validate him or his story. When we have differences of opinions or ask for advice on the site we recognize who we are talking about and can respect or have some faith in what they are saying. I believe if your going to talk about a specific person in a negative way on a forum they should have the right to see it and defend themselves.

who starts? - - You would think, as much as the phrase [i]communication is key[/i], gets bandied about people would really want to actively engage in communication. It would seem natural that the more experienced parties would take the lead in discussing how things get done much like flight instructors explaining that when the oxygen masks drop from the overhead compartment, you place it over your head, secure the elastic strap and breathe. However in this lifestyle that couldn't be further from the truth. The problem is that if there is too much chit chat then someone is always in danger of being dumbfounded by the use of a big word. It's hard to be sexy when all the blood is now rushing to your head in a desperate attempt to draw upon a vocabulary that just isn't there in the first place. How do you get around this? Well, I certainly don't need to explain the folly of having a dictionary next to the hot tub. This is why it is strongly encouraged that swingers incorporate healthy role-play. When trying to get that new couple to first base it's best to stick with the basics. A good old fashion game of Neanderthals...ahem, excuse me, I mean cave people. Then the fun can proceed upon simple phrases like, "You look good" or "Me touch you now?" When becoming aroused you might say, "Oooh, this is how make fire," or "I look in hole for water," to facilitate cunnilingus. This role-play is especially helpful to those who don't have hot tubs, or who may have suggested strip Uno because they thought a

Christian Swingers - - By the most basic definition, being a Christian simply means you believe that Christ was the son of God. After that it's all doctrinal squabbling. And at that point all you need is positive outlook, and the general idea that being kind, tolerant, and honest are positive things we all should do, and you've got the makings for a perfect Christian swinger. As far as any such sect being widely accepted, the LDS Church is one of the largest, most famous in the world, and it just so happens that a significant number of people still refer to it as a cult, and think that Utah still has polygamy. Misconceptions abound in any faith-structure. And, at risk of beating a dead horse, (which is a vile and ineffective practice) a joint study by grad students at Princeton and Dartmouth found that 28% of interviewees didn't relate to, or only related a little to their Christian denomination. Now it was a sampling of the population, but given the number of Christians in America, 28% can translate into hundreds of thousands, to millions of Christians out there who don't relate well to their denomination, and can practice their own form of spirituality. But I wax verbose, and slightly British. God bless the Swingers. -V

lifestyle club downtown slc... - - whos all going to the swingers club tonight? we are looking for unicorns or married women who can play alone... if you see us out say hey. let us buy you a drink...

Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - Personality can conquer almost anything! With that being said we have been discriminated against due to our age.. Its not fun but everyone has their personal preferences we just have to accept it.. Personally we are more attracted to couples older than us.. But we have had many fun times with couples younger than us. I think it comes down to common interests and attitude. People would be surprised with how many different types of crowds you can fit in with. SO FUCK EM ALL..hehe (literally)

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - [quote=LOOKIN4FUN369][quote=BMSHELL][quote=LOOKIN4FUN369] I doubt they verify the age, just took the money and ran lol [/quote] "Took the money and ran" ? Really? The system does check the age the couple claims to be in their Swingular profile before allowing them to buy a ticket. [/quote] But a person can change there birthday on swingular and your system will allow them to purchase tickets so there not really a full proof way to keep the older from buying tickets [/quote] True, there will always be a smarter full.

Orange County LA Area Swingers?? - Looking to see if this site has wxpanded West yet? - So here we are seeing all you active Utah folk's having what appears to be an active community of Life stylers... I am out in Orange County where we have empty gyms and swing clubs... LOL So any West Coast Couples in shape and ready to meet or mingle? See our page at HANDM here on this site and drop us a line if you are nearby or just as flustered as we are.

Another Swingers Show on TV - - [quote=SEXPERIMENTORS] This September, Discovery Fit & Health delves into a mysterious and daring world in its all-new series, SECRET SEX LIVES: SWINGERS, which follows five all-American couples as they juggle marriage, family commitments and careers. But behind closed doors, these husbands and wives share one surprising thing in common: they all lead double lives as swingers. SECRET SEX LIVES: SWINGERS premieres Saturday, September 7 at 10PM (ET/PT) on Discovery Fit & Health. Nice! If there are enough of these maybe eventually our lifestyle will become normalized. Mr. Sexperimentors[/quote] I think you two should come over and we can watch it together!!!!