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The lifestyle: A single mans perspective - - Well said, brother...This lifestyle is what you make of it, and some make more than others. While we are all grownups on this site (obviously, you have to be 18 or over to sign on), you'd think there would be less of a high-school mentatlity than in, say....high school? yet, we get some of the DORKIEST , misspelled emails I've ever seen. Couple that with the responses we've gotten to some posts (like the one critisizing us for getting our vip status), and we wonder how some have remembered to breathe long enough to pass high school. So, here are some very basic tips on enjoying this lifestyle: (not that I'm an expert, but obviously some need etiquette lessons) 1) The first email / chat with someone, DON"T ask idiotic questions. And don't get TOO personal. Remember, this is like dating. If a woman at a bar showed some interest, would the next thing out of your mouth be 'What size is your bra?', or 'Do you like it in the ass?'. it's no wonder some of you are in this lifestyle, you'd never get laid otherwise. 2) Keep SOCIAL meetings SOCIAL. No one cares how long you've been a proctologist, or how much money your kids have stole from you. That's YOUR business. Polite conversation is one thing, but there's nothing worse than hearing a 3 hour lecture on YOUR life experiences, followed by 'So, would you guys like to play with us?' Yeah, as if 3) There ARE other things besides sex to chat about. In person or on the computer. That's right, SWINGERS HAVE BRAINS. and we're very able to carry on converstaion (well, some of us anyway) We were at a party once, and my other half said 'I've heard sex mentioned until I'm not turned on at the thought anymore' ...it happens, just a tip 4) Unless you're planning a very long trip, or own your own private jet, don't add someone to your friend's list here OR on yahoo that lives 3,000 miles away. Let's face it, we'll never meet. Hell, we'll probably never even talk. so what's the point? Air sex? gimme a break. 5) And probably the most important. From the first meeting, to every visit you have (if someone's lucky enough to invite you back, RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE!. Just because we have a wild orgy at the pool of a local motel with wild monkeys and lots of cool whip, it DOES NOT MEAN TO GROPE US EVERYTIME YOU SEE US. We're in couples for a reason, to be in a couple. And just because we're turned on by you, or have sex, doesn't mean you own our bodies afterward. That's what your spouse/gf/bf is for. And most of us aren't here for love. NEWSFLASH...WE'RE HERE FOR SEX! These are just off the top of my head, after recieving some horrible emails, and experiencing some terrible meetings. Oh, yeah, and in response to the post, most single guys DO get a hard time in the lifestyle. But good, they should. This is about the couples, single guys are VERY easy to come by. And those who have treated us with RESPECT have been treated EXCEPTIONALLY WELL. Bravo on a great post, and good luck to you sir! Him p.s. anything I missed? list it below!

am back - spliting up sucks - We would not play with either of the couple if they were divorced. We became swingers so we can play as a couple with another couple. We don't entertain single male or female for the reason we do not want one of us to be playing while the other watches. We would still be "vanilla" with both if they are still in the lifestyle but would treat them like all other singles in the lifestyle when it comes to playtime.

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New Relationships - - [quote=EVILDOERS]Yep. Swinging is couples centric. If there weren't couples what would swinging even be? Hooking up. But there are plenty of couples who also like to add the occasional single to the mix. Hell, some even play that way exclusively. As far as single swingers meeting each other to form relationships (if I'm reading you correctly) that's a much tougher row to hoe. We've seen a few singles become couples over the years but they're in the minority unfortunately. The lifestyle is a tough place to date and find love for many reasons. Many couples WILL give you more than a casual look if you indeed have a regular play partner that you can bring to add to the mix. Otherwise you'll just kind of have to resign yourself to the plight of a single guy in the lifestyle. Sorry, life isn't always fair.[/quote] This ^^ it isn't always about "hooking" up. Sometimes it's about having open-minded friends that you can just hang with, sometimes it's about treating your significant other for their birthday... but we all know, she runs the show, if she's not into it, nothing is happening!

Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - [quote=CINNER]Any couples or singles interested in playing deltas course and Playing with Delta's Hottest lady HIT us up..[/quote] We would be down to make a weekend out of it golf one day riding 4 wheelers the other!!!

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - You mean it's an actual party? I thought it was like a political group who wanted to meet to strategize about how to get Justine Bieber and Harry Styles on the ballet in 2016. [em]Emo_89[/em]

Finding sexy friends in Vegas - - Vegas fun spots for lifestyle: Swinger Clubs -
On-Premise: these are the lifestyle clubs in Vegas... 
Sea Mountain 'One Love Temple'. Opened in June 2017 as Las Vegas first and only lifestyle resort! They have awesome night parties, including a club where you can dance. No clothes needed here, couples & single girls only. About 10 mins from the Strip, an easy uber. Absolutely fantastic. 
Las Vegas Playroom (in what was the Couples Oasis house) is, as of July 2016, remodeling the venue and just started hosting parties. We like what they are doing, as they've already made a number of upgrades. They are trying to target a younger demographic and have quite a bit of work to get the vibe right (music, paint, furnishings, etc) but they are motivated and driven to make that happen. Fingers crossed, we're rooting for them! 
The Green Door. We have never been there but our friends say it would be there next pick, as they love the playrooms and it's very close to the Strip (just off Sahara). However be forwarned that solo (we won't say "single") guys are heavily marketed to so there will always be hordes of non-lifestyle-protocol-aware guys in the hallways, in the bar (no alcohol allowed due to city ordinances), and leering outside of the couples areas. If you’re a girl and into a lot of guys or just loves being an exhibitionist and knowing she's turning guys on who watch then she'll have a blast here; but if she's not then it can be awful for her. It's clean, just off the Strip and the parking lot is very safe. The crowd here starts late, usually after midnight. 
The Red Rooster is one of the oldest and most famous clubs in the world and used to be packed every weekend (we hear it's losing steam a bit). They also allow in solo guys, so keep that in mind. The crowd tends to be older, and they (refreshingly) make no apologies for who they are (not the place for the young-n-hot-pretty-crowd, definitely a good place for the majority who aren't that). And it's a LONG way from the Strip, so either rent a car or prepare for an expensive taxi/uber ride. They have an indoor pool, and a FANTASTIC food buffet that the owner cooks personally (they have a catering license, and it rocks). This place packs early, by 10:00pm there's a big crowd that tends to be older as there are lots of locals who have been loyal members for 20 years or more. And, of course, plenty of places to play.
There's also the Fantasy Swingers Club, and it's right next to the Green Door, a bit smaller and a lot quieter, often with only a few people there, but has a sexy vibe with fewer solo guys.

Other: There are LOTS of impromptu and other parties that pop up from time to time in Vegas, so keep an eye on the various lifestyle sites. Off-Premise Party -
Swingers Circle hosts a couples-only on-premise party on Thursdays. They book a hotel suite on or near the Strip, start early (you aren't allowed to arrive late), and it's all about playing. Since they promote on a number of sites and don't display their guestlist, it can be hit-or-miss as to whether you'll fit in or not, but from our friends experience it's absolutely worth the risk. They play a game that quickly gets everyone naked, and if you aren't feeling the vibe with the night’s group...there are no hard feelings for sneaking out (nobody will even notice). So it's worth the price of admission to see, and there's a good chance you'll have a blast. 
PurrfectLV at Caesar's Fizz Lounge is a weekly swingers meet & greet in the lounge. Very sexy vibe in a small, intimate venue, but not on premise so if you connect with some sexies then you'll need to head off on your own. It can be hit-or-miss, sometimes there's a big crowd, sometimes not, sometimes it's hot, sometimes it's not. Plus note that although they do allow solo guys, don't let that deter you as they are very chill and understand protocol. It's usually worth hitting even if just to see who's in town and then hooking up and heading out from there.

Nude Pools - Sea Mountain 'One Love Temple' Las Vegas - opened in late June 2017, Las Vegas finally has a 100% clothing optional , on-premise resort! It's a beautiful property located about 5 min's from the Strip and an easy Uber. Dewey and his wife (owners) are great hosts, and provide a sanctuary for couples and single girls (sorry guys, you'll need to find a date to go here) where you can be surrounded by like-minded friends and away from the hordes of vanilla's at the topless & club pools at the resorts. It isn't free and most think of it as pretty speedy. The last time we were there, we paid $200 per couple for the day & night. That’s after paying a $40 membership fee. The alcohol is free and so is lunch and all the snacks they provide throughout the day....but the cost per couple is less than a pair of lounge chairs at Bare or Moorea. Topless Swimming Pools - 
Leave Rehab, Wet Republic, Tao and other popular non-toptional (girls gotta keep their tops on) pools to the hordes of young vanillas paying $100/pp entry, getting drunk on $20 cocktails and having their ears blasted by music so loud it's impossible to have a conversation (but hey, they're vanillas, so they aren't talking to each other anyway). * Evolve, Swinging Saturdays at the Artisan pool (hosted until Labor Day, then re-opens in May) is THE only couples-only topless pool party in Vegas! Great (house) music, hot people, and you can get away with pretty much anything. They even have a play suite for everyone upstairs. And what about single guys who have a room at the hotel? They put 'em on a bus to the MGM and comp them into vanilla-land at Wet Republic, anything but allowing them into the Artisan Evolve party. 
Our other fav's are these 3 "toptional" pools: 
Bare Pool at Mirage (usually a hot crowd and we've randomly met other Lifestyle couples many times, always fun there)
Moorea at Mandalay (book a daybed) is gaining a bit more traction lately with lifestyle friendly folks. Not as hip as Bare, but a pretty good pool scene. Like most 'nilla topless pools, all the girls will be wearing their tops until one or two girls go topless, so the swinger's usually get things started and it's always funny to then watch tops start coming off around the pool.
Venus Pool at Caesar's(not free, but still fun and very swinger friendly), and
Artisan Hotel Pool (extremely swinger friendly, usually other lifestyle members are found lounging poolside). Massages -
Want some stress relief...plus? Well Chinatown is great if you're a guy, but they seem to be at a loss as to what to do when a girl shows up (either alone or as part of a couple). And of course there are tons of escort services in town, which are expensive and, well, you won't get the massage. Clubs -
The clubs most people are going to at the moment are the Drai's rooftop at the Cromwell, Marquee at Cosmo, XS at Wynn/Encore and Hakaasan at MGM (those are currently also the top 4 clubs in the world, as rated by numerous magazines). The after-hours club people hit is Drai's (opens at 4:00am) in the basement at the Commonwealth. 
NOTE, all clubs...and we do mean all...make their money selling "bottle service". There are, absolutely, literally, no places to sit in a club unless you pay for the table, we aren't kidding, really, which will run you anywhere from $600 and up (way up) depending upon the day and the location of the table in the club. Lounges -
Lounges are our personal preference, as we can meet up with people, have a conversation, and head to a hotel suite or houseparty. The sexiest lounges we like are:
For hanging out - Rose.Rabbit.Lie at Cosmo, Parasol Down (outside patio lakeside at the Wynn...our absolute favorite in town),and Chandalier Bar at the Cosmo (worth the trip, trust us).
For vanilla hunting - Vesper Bar and Chandalier Bar (both at the Cosmo), Lavo (at Palazzo), or pretty much any bar in Vegas where 'nilla's are looking to let go and embrace the "what happens" ethos. Shows -
There are so many great shows here! We will ignore the great vanilla shows (Jersey Boys, Mystere, etc) and just give our thoughts on the more risque performances...
1. Zumanity - the Mrs says, for the girls to remember to bring an extra pair of panties, as you'll get wet!
2. Absinthe - this show at Caesars has you starting in the beer garden and ending up in a smallish circus tent. The seating is close and upfront to the performers. The show includes bawdy, profane and damn funny skits with a lot of acrobatic sensual stuff. The irreverent anti-Cirque and the mister’s...hands-down favorite. 
3.. Fantasy - a standard from the Luxor that's been playing for a long time and is actually fantastic. The girls are good looking, the dancing and acts are great and the comedian makes it all worth while. Strip Clubs -
The little known truth about Las Vegas strip clubs is...well...they pretty much suck. You'd expect them to be wild and no-holds-barred a la New Orleans or Florida, but that sadly isn't the case as the "no touching" rule is strictly enforced at the more popular clubs (some of the less popular clubs, though, do let you get away with literally anything, including paid-sex in the back rooms, or so we've heard...but you didn't hear that from us). Some highlites (all are just our opinions, of course)...
1. Spearmint Rhino - the best club in town. Not because it's the best venue; it's okay, but it isn't Hustler or even Treasures in terms of design quality. But THIS is where the hottest girls from all over the world fly in to work. End of discussion as far as we're concerned. And yes, if/when you fall in love you'll learn that most of the girls "date", but don't take it too hard when you learn that the translation of that is "escort" and they aren't really in love with you...hey, girls gotta make a living.
2. Sapphire - billed as the largest strip club in the world. Maybe it is, and they do pack in the crowds, but honestly the girls tend to be on the heavier side and just aren't that hot.
3. Palomino - in North Las Vegas, the original, and still the only club that is 100% nude AND serves alcohol. This is one of the places where we've heard you can pretty much get away with anything you're willing to tip for.
4. Hustler - beautiful and amazing in design. Best to go when there is a party or special event, as that's when the hotter girls show up to work.
5. Others - there are sooooooo many strip clubs in Vegas, so check out other review sites for more info. Some are fun for very specific reasons, such Treasures and it's fantastic steak house. Just be forewarned, most of these small clubs will have few girls dancing (and usually not very attractive ones at that...not what you'd expect in Vegas).
FOR THE GIRLS (and bi-guys) - Male strippers! There's only one place to go - "OG", Olympic Gardens. The hot guys here can get away with a LOT more than their female counterparts in the other room, so private/VIP dances can get very frisky!
LOCAL'S TIP - READ THIS BEFORE GOING!!! In Vegas the strip clubs are required to "tip" the taxi or limo when they drop you off at the club; anywhere from $40 to $100 per person (yes, you read that right, per "person", not per "vehicle"). So DO NOT grab a cab, nor accept the "free" ride from the limo the doorman at your hotel is more than eager to get for you. Instead, call the strip club and they will send a free limo to pick you up AND you'll get free entry (they'll bend over backwards to avoid paying the taxi/limo fees).You'll still need to grab a taxi back to your hotel afterwards, but that's fine as the club doesn't have to pay for that. Hope this info helps...have fun in Sin City!

Swingular Sucks? No Sexies to Hang With? - REALLY? Ya Gotta Be Kiddin' Me! - [quote=JBVIPER1][quote=PALS4FUN][quote=BUZZY]If you see us on Saturday do say hi we don't bite. At least that is our story. [/quote]Damn, no biting? And I really like my nipples to be ... ummm ... ahhh .... yeah, OK, No biting then! [em]Emo_49[/em] [quote=JBVIPER1]This site should be called Utah Swingers Only.[/quote] Hey, we can't help it if we're a fun bunch up here in Utah! There's lots of stuff happening in Vegas too! (and Florida? although I know that's no consolation for you AZ folks!) [quote=STARSHELL1212]That's why I joined this site. Last site I checked out was a graveyard. I was a bit shocked when I saw all the parties and people around here in UT. So I agree with Pals, I think there is lots of things to do. We got pretty lucky and got contacted by a great couple, and they've been extremely nice about letting us slowly ease in the LS. We have enjoyed time with them, and hope to check out a few of these meet and greets, etc, after the holidays. Hopefully we can run into some other couples that are as down to Earth as the two we've met with. My wife and I are still pretty new, but it's been fun so far. [/quote] It's good to find the right couple to start with! And there really is lots to do, and lots of people to meet. That's really been the biggest difficulty for us -- with family constraints it's difficult to find the time to have all the fun we'd like to have! ;)[/quote] What I have actually received from the Utah members is the rude, attacking tear you down comments. Not what we in Arizona consider a "FUN BUNCH"[/quote] Well you are very lucky you live in AZ, so you don't have to deal with us rude Utah assholes, you are very blessed!

Fly-fishing Swingers - New Swingular Group - We're headed for the green river for the 4th of july, to play with our flies, and do a bit of boatin' on the lake too. Say hi if you see us... On the lake we are aboard the "Wet Dream" ;)

Disneyland swingers - - Going in the Spring.