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New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - We do prefer to play out of state, but if the ambience and feeling of the place was exrremly safe and private then we would attend once a month..at least :)

swinger ? or not. - - Gotta love semantics. What is your definition of a swinger? Merriam Webster defines a swinger thusly: a : a person who is lively, exciting, and up-to-date b : one who engages freely in sex There are those who would use the term in a variety of different ways. Some would vehemently deny that single people could be swingers and fall back on a previously used term of "wife swapping". Bottom line, a swinger, to you, is whatever YOU decide one is and if you consider yourself a swinger then you're a swinger. Someone else's definition is meaningless. JMHO

Disappointments! - - WE ALSO ONLY PLAY WITH GOOD FRIENDS , TO US WE ARE SWINGERS YES , BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN THAT SALL THE LIFE STYLE IS ALL ABOUT TO US . WE WANT TO PLAY WITH FRIENDS . NOT EVERYBODY AND ANYBODY THAT WILL PLAY WITH US .TO US ITS NOT ABOUT HOOKING UP AND HAVIGN SEX . ITS ABOUT SHARING EACH OTHER AND EXPLOREING WITH FRIENDS . WE DONT REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MEETING PEOPLE OR HOOKING UP WITH THOSE THAT WE WANT TO . AND WE FOR THE MOST PART ARE STILL GOOD FRIENDS OR PLAY MATES WITH ALL OF OUR FRIEND S. WE TELL EVERYBODY WE ARE JUST LOOKING FOR FRIEND S. THAT WAY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN A HURRY TO HOOK UP WILL LEAVE US ALONE . WE TAKE OUR TIME AND GET TO KNOWPEOPLE AND PLAY WHEN IT FEELS RIGHT . THE BEST WAY TO FIND PEOPLE WHAT UA RE LOOKING FOR IS . TO .... PUT AS MUCH INFO IN YOUR PROFILE AS U CAN . TRY TO WRITE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON DIFFERENT SITES . AND SAYING UP FRONT . U ARE LOOKING FOR NEW FRIENDS . GO TO AS MANY PARTIES AS U CAN . THAT WAY U CAN MEET ALOT OF NEW PEOPLE ALL THE TIME . STUFF LIKE THAT HELPS OUT ALOT . MAYBE START YOUR OWN YAHOO GROUP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT . WE JUST STARTED A NEW GROUP CALLED [email protected] WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE IT FOR SWINGERS THAT ALSO WANT TO BE FRIENDS . STUFF LIEK THAT CAN HELP ALOT . TRY TO LOOK FOR NEWBIES . OR GROUPS FOR NEWBIES . I THINK U WOULD HAVE A BETTER CHANCE ON MEETING MORE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR FRIENDS .... THERE IS SO MANY DIFFERENT SITES OR GROUPS OR CLUBS FOR SWINGERS . U HAVE TO FIND A FEW THAT WORK BEST FOR YOU AND WHAT U ARE LOOKING FOR . IF U CAN T FIND WHAT U ARE LOOKING FOR STARTING YOUR GROUP MIGHT BE THE BEST THING . DONT KEEP LOOKING . CAUSE I CAN TELL U THERE IS COUPLES OUT THERE LOOKING FOR THE SAME THINGS AS U . U JUST HAVE TO FIND THEM . NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY

Sensitivities - a paradox? - I think you're right that "L'S'ers" vary in personality and other traits just like the mainstream population. I think there is a "liberal" stigma associated with the lifestyle that just isn't true. I mean seriously, why would it be any different than the mainstream? The only thing most people here do differently is their sex life. Some people here fuck like bunnies on Friday and Saturday and go beg their god for forgiveness on Sunday. A lot of swingers are more conservative than most vanillas. "Swinging" only makes one sexually liberal. Swinging is a sexuality trait and not a lifestyle. It may be considered a lifestyle for those that constantly evade friends, work, church and family in their daily pursuit of hook-ups. However, as a libertine, "swinging" is only one aspect, of a liberal lifestyle that I, myself, wish to obtain. It's not a necessity, yet not forbidden... It's a choice I can make with no consequence.

Too Many Fake People Here - Nobody really wants to fuck! - [quote=TIFFND][quote=HAOPENGYOU]Before we moved to the coast 3 years ago, we were pretty active in the Utah lifestyle, and it definitely seemed more active and vibrant than it does now, at least insofar as we can judge from activity on this website. Back then we would regularly do things with the same three couples, all of whom we met on Swingular, and we notice now that two of their profiles are no longer here on this site. So you might be right, although we hope not, because we had a blast with this in Utah. When we did make the move out of Utah, we switched to another website, as Swingular is strongly Utah-centric. In fact, we've never had a single communication on Swingular from anywhere at all outside of Utah. Hey, if things get too sparse, come meet us in Portland, which apparently is the [url=https://www.prunderground.com/swingery-publishes-top-10-cities-with-the-most-swingers-in-the-us/00102465/]#1 swinger city in the country[/url]. We had no idea about that when we moved to Oregon, but we're not complaining. Go to Privata downtown if you ever have the chance. And if you ever tell anyone that you're not interested in a physical relationship with them, and they lose it (happened to us one time), then they're no one you wanted to hang with anyway. You'll do well to be rid of them. If any of you ever make it to the coast, you're invited to sip wine with us and watch whales from our deck. Best of luck to you. And Happy New Year.[/quote] Our point originally was that perhaps these people aren't really as fake, as they are private. I think the scene here is actually still doing quite well! It's just changing. In our case, we're just not as "out there" anymore as we used to be....And kind of feel like maybe that's true for a lot of folks. And maybe it's our age...we are 10 years older now...and not exactly in high demand. That said...we just may have to do a bit of whale watching in Portland, someday.....[/quote] When we started nearly 10 years ago, we made MANY more connections through this site. Now...not so much. We’ve changed. The scene has changed. I remember bi-guys being afraid to mention it for fear of outright hostility. We now prefer a connection, and to meet first to see if the connection is there, if they are in fact real, and to see if they “creep us out.” We do enjoy finding new friends, even if it is just for the night, all the better of more than that. And just finding people who are a bit more liberated to share some company even if there’s no play involved is also great. We have much more to offer than a good roll in the hay, as do most people, and the hay rolling is awesome, but enhanced by an intelectual and mutual respect.

Maybe we'll have to default to wearing those black rings. - - The porn ban/block/opt-in is incredibly infeasible. Look at Reddit for example, there are TONS and TONS of subreddits (communities in a sense) that have porn. (reddit.com/r/swingers, reddit.com/r/swingersGW, reddit.com/r/nsfw, reddit.com/r/straightgirlsplaying...) It would take a tremendous amount of manpower in the state of Utah (as the ISPs will not do this) to label websites as "porn". Most exclusively porn sites (tubegalore, pornhub) are likely already labeled that, but again the reddits and tumblrs of the internet would take forever to filter out. Now, about the opt-in list being held with the ISPs. They already know every single customer who looks at porn. Unless you use a good VPN, they are well aware of every website you visit. That being said, while they might not have a list of people that look at porn, it would be really easy for a hacker to, once they get into the ISP, gather information about everyone who looks at porn and share it with the world. If they couldn't get into the ISP, they could still get this information from porn websites. Unfortunately for the Utah government, this plan is just not possible and is basically just BS to get support for reelections...

Bi-Sexual - lifestyle questions - Announcement! Ms Evil and I think that the United States should immediately unilaterally suspend any and all swinging activities until we can figure out what the hell is going on! I mean with all this supposedly "accidental" penetration of various orifices and stuff. And we should also have a database of swingers, track their movements and have surveillance against where they meet (swing clubs, happy hour meet 'n greets, hoochie koochie bars). Until we take these steps American swingers just aren't safe. Oh, and no more male swinger 'open carry'. It's all fun and games until someone gets their eye poked out by some careless horny dude wielding a high capacity assault pocket Scud. Please go to We the People on the White House petition site and sign our petition to make American swinging great again! It's also been rumored that some young swingers are being radicalized and are planning to meet clandestinely for who knows WHAT! This has to STOP! Please vote for the return of traditional swinging values (key parties, gold chains, and lots and lots of chest and pubic hair). It's time to TAKE BACK our swing scene!

Translating Personals/Swingers Ads - - that was so funny . now i need to go back and change all my profiles . ha ha ha ha naughty dreams freaky kitty

Stabbing at swingers party? - - A stabbing in Herriman over the weekend has the media reporting it was a "swingers party". I am assuming this is because as the news reports a few couples "got frisky" in the basement, causing several people to reportedly leave and return less than an hour later and stab the party's 22-year old host. The three suspects were all 20 to 22 years old, also. Does anyone know anything about this? Was it a vanilla party gone wrong in a drunken moment, causing some guys to get extremely jealous and now the media is blowing this up to be a "swingers" party? Or was it really a swingers party?

Friend collectors or swingers - - We fwb couple. We don't like collecting friends and I usually clean out most about once a year. Just hard to find a good friend