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Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - Thank you all. Don Juan has his freedom of speach and as much as I may disagree with his position his rights are just as important as mine. certian rights are so very important that a group of men back around the late 1700's decided to expressly write them down. freedom of speach was among those rights expressly protected not given in the document (Bill of Rights). those in uniform and out of uniform alike may disagree with our political goals and how the military is used in the accomplishment of those goals but never the less the military has been asked to fight and so we do. I sincerely do not remember where I herd this poem and I may not remember all of the words but the gist is: I saw them come for the artists, and I am not an artist so I did nothing! I saw them come for the grocer, & I am not a grocer so I did nothing!! I saw them come for the poor, & I am not poor so I did nothing!!!! I saw them come for the Jews, & I am not a Jew so I did nothing!!!!! Now they came for me, Who is left to help me????? the end I pray the United States Military is recognized for the highest standards of Integrity, Service & Excellence!!! sometimes in the persute of freedom there are some elements none of us like but must prtect the same. humbly yours, USAFR SRA Wilkinson

COVID and Lifestyle - Testing or risking it - Just as an aside (and out of morbid curiosity), how many are okay risking COVID by meeting and/or playing without masks but insist on using condoms when fucking other people recreationally? I'm trying to get a handle on how Utah swingers assess health risks in the lifestyle. [em]Emo_4[/em] [img]https://pics.me.me/thumb_a-list-of-people-who-understand-risk-managementmettret-memegenerator-net-a-52953797.png[/img]

ksl - did you watch?? - Swingers in polygamist state.....HMMMM.....Wonder who started that? Well they can kiss my.....

Swingers ski trip to Colorado - - Hi, we are going on a Swingers ski trip to Colorado Feb. 4th-9th. We are looking for a couple or couples to go with us because it's much cheaper that way. It comes to $900 per couple for 5 nights at 1 bedroom apartment, lift tickets for 3 days of skiing, Airport round trip transfer. (Skis rent extra around $100 per person if you don't have your own). To take virtual resort tour go here http://tours.360house.com/Viewer_pr.cfm?ID=71455 Look for one bedroom or Colorado suite. Looks like very good resort. Here you can find more info on the trip http://www.astraveloffl.com/ We have been looking to go to Colorado for a while and can tell you that's a very good price. Only transfer from Denver airport cost $200 round trip per person, 3 days lift tickets cost $200 if you buy it on line in advance and over $250 at the door. So, price worth it. Plus, skiing such a fun and Colorado is the only place in U.S. that comparable to famous european ski trails. If you are a couple and want to go with us lets talk about it. Please, be under 40. We prefer local to us couples so, we can meet and see if we all can live together in one apartment for five nights. :)

what the f#%@ was he thinking? - swingers still deserve respect - I would turn him in and get him kicked off this site. What an Ass.

Finding a balance - Swinging and Religion - - This has always been a tough controversy. Religion, swinging. I am agnostic and my GF was LDS. Her family is hardcore LDS still and pushed the faith on their daughter (my GF) and her kids even. They preach that they want their whole family in the religion cuz they need to know "right from wrong". I asked the kids (8 & 6 yrs old) what they learn in church.. seems to me all they learn about is how great their "savior" is, how he loves us, and we can look to him, and family is a "unit".. they dont seem to learn anythign about right and wrong. Yet.. her parents try to preach to me that their religion teaches them right from wrong and that their "right & wrong" is the correct one. They are also very controlling, judgemental, pushy, 2-faced, and negative in every aspect... OMG! is this what u learn in church and how family is supposed to be?? They found out we swing, and told me its adultry and we're cheating and its immoral.. OK, umm.. we;re not married and what we do is 100% consentual... funny, but seems like the more LDS we meet, the more seem to be JACK mormons. so why are LDS swinging or why are swingers in religions that condem it? is it just for the prestige and status of being in the church and to shut the family up?? Ok, #1, I hate ppl who follow a faith and feel theirs is the correct one so much that they push it on everyone and judge other beliefs as the wrong ones rather then understanding tolerance and the fact that there is no such thing as right or wrong... only opinion and difference... what works for you may not work for me. #2, I hate hypocrates. ppl who preach about how much they follow their religion, go to church and lie in front of everyone there about how much they follow the rules and how the church has saved them.. Then, behind closed doors, they go against everything they believe in. Then they preach about how much they follow their churches rules and its "right & wrong" is the ultimate. Those ppl are called liars and 2-facers.. #3, Kids should be taught "Right & Wrong" from their parents, not a group of ppl that i described in examples #1 & #2. WTF do they know?? Kids should also be introduced to church by their own choice and when they are old enuf to understand it. [b]In my opinion, If you wanna swing, then it doesnt seem like u really believe in ur church's beliefs... why are u in it? If u believe ur church's teachings above all.. then why are you swinging?[/b] [b]I have nuthing against either, but I think its best to pick a side. Thats why I dont follow any religion.. I dont believe in any of them... too many hypocrates, liars, 2-facers, judgemental, stuck-ups... people who are willing to bend and cheat their own rules, morals and beliefs behind closed doors and especially when its to their benefit...[/b]

Difficult in finding Couples or single Males/ Females - - join a local group. you're in utah for crying out loud, thats where all the swingers are. seriously, don't knock it till you try it. one of our most sucessful swinging encounters was with a couple old enough to be my parents.

What would you do if you knew a member is fake? - Fake cpls on swing sites - I can see your dilemma, but are you sure they are fake and not just desperate, lifeless, pitiful fools? at the end of their pitiful ropes? Maybe just crude, rude, hillbilly rednecks or something? We get hit up by the same single males quite often, seems as though they shoot in the dark hoping for some sort of outcome, and then quickly move on when they don't get a response. then a couple months or so later, back again with the same plan that didn't work the first time! Doesn't mean they are fake, just desperate, and obviously unorganized! The problem with outing people, AT ALL, is that you never know. Thing is you never know who will end up being your future Boss, co-worker, or client. (using as reference, you just never know) I myself am very turned off by smack talkers, had someone email me very recently talking smack to me (their idea of a warning) about someone I have known my entire life. Now how could they have known you ask? they couldn't have, but.......my advice to them......never smack talk, because you never know. (One persons "truth telling" is another's "Shit talking") I'm sure that full swap couples would view us as fakes because we are soft swappers, and then get butt hurt. (Only full swappers are real swingers blah blah blah) But I promise you we are as real as the next dumb ass. And probably spent more time realizing our place in the lifestyle and why we are here. Anyway sorry for the babbling. Just my 2 cents! ~K~

How Do you Find Out - Question about Friends - I disagree with CandJ. I have a buddy that I thought would be cool with it and since he has found out we are swingers he nearly never talks to me anymore. We are car guys and it takes something big to part those ways...

Christain Swingers? - - We have to say from our church background and understanding of scripture (and we were both unpaid ministry when we married...how things change lol!) that the answer is a big NO. Now we do not practice our faith at all and have totally fallen out due to some other reasons that we don't really want to get into. Not trying to start a flame war or change anyone else mind, if you still have faith, more power to you!:D This is just our personal understanding of the Bible, for us being a Christain Swinger is the same as a Jewish Nazi, it's just not going to work. Of course the church thing has had us so screwed up anymore that we hope we are wrong. We are on here as well, so you know who our friends are. Just two more people the church has shot in the back of the head and rolled into the ditch, Art and Dawn