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KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - Actually we were never in "a rut" but after being force fed the church all of our lives as a young married couple we started wondering what we might have missed out on by being good little Mormons. Almost 30 years later we're still here and still kickin' it. FUCK YOU, Channel Two! [em]Emo_25[/em]

Swingers gone bad?? - - Just happy it

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - I would be interested in this. I hope be part of group!!! Thanks

Swingers - a couples only lifestyle? - Are singles considered to be swingers? - We also said in our post LUSTYTWO4U: "It'll be interesting to hear what others have to say." And you're right - we did say "to us" - we didn't say everyone had to agree. Everyone is entitled to their ideas about the lifestyle - as we are.

Swinger Friendly Businesses - Business or services friendly to swingers - Now if there was just a plastic surgeon on here we would be set. ;) Implants at discount.:q I think it is a great idea My company does flood restoration/disaster clean up. In case your wild party's get a little to wet and wild. Flooring sales and insallation,Carpet cleaning as well

Sexy swingers closer to our age - 20-30 year old sexy swingers - 35 and 33 here. We started out in our early 20's in the LS

Swingers Party - Doesnt mean who ever is there is open to everyone elsa - there are always assholes in this world but we are lucky they are not the majority. not to be to philisophical but if you allow them to alter your choices of what you can or want to do then they win. don't let the bastards win . because we lose also . keep going to parties , groups , and socials. just my two cents.

Best swingers club for a 26m/36f couple - - I would recommend playhousLV for people your age. Just my personal experience. We've been to all of the above mentioned ones in vegas and the crowd at those clubs were much older. PlayhouseLV has been amazing every time we've been. Always a good crowd of attractive younger people. Lots of play spaces and always a ton of people playing. We get lucky every time we go there. When we went to flirts all older people literally just hanging at the bar drinking. I kid u not. Not a single room was being utilized to play in. EXTREMELY BORING. Whispers we left 5 minutes after walking through the door because the crowd was much older. And not very attractive.

Calling all losers! - LS and club scene - ...........................................I am bored on a Sunday, so going to waste a bit of time. :) I have said this before and I will mention it again here. Often times people are looking for a black and white answer, a "this" or "that" or they tend to pigeonhole themselves into a place that feels comfortable to them. It is great that people can search for and find people of similar interests. The original question was why is the Utah scene so closely related to the club scene. To me, that isn't necessarily the way things are and so I am responding to shed a different insight into the question. How big is the club scene in Utah? I don't feel it is that big. We have the Moose Lounge on Fridays on a regular basis, we used to have Habits and then we have the parties that happen once a month or less frequently, such as the Sinful parties. Give or take a few other club locations and attendees. The average attendance at the Moose Lounge is around 80 people every Friday. My guess is that this number is well under 10% of the swinging population in the area. Just estimating. This only happens once a week. If we only consider the weekend as play time (Friday and Saturday), which is also an inaccuracy since people do meet weekdays and Sunday as well, that means that only 5% of the population of swingers is actually attending the swinger club scene on the weekends. Certainly not a majority by any means. Sinful is definitely a club scene. And maybe we should define "club". I will say that is an environment where there is a DJ or another form of music, often times on the loud side as people like to dance, has a dance area for such activities, and typically doesn't open until 9 or so at night. Sinful probably hosts on average 150 people on average (S&A, don't get mad if this number is off,lol) and these happen maybe once a month. Lets just round this high and say that is 20% of the swinger population. However, many that attend the Moose and other clubs are the same that attend Sinful. Similar crowd and often an overlap. So still nowhere near a majority, or even a large percent. In fact, quite the opposite. This scene is well in the minority. So I am submitting that this really isn't and accurate assessment of the situation and based on more of a sense or feeling than actual fact. What this tells us then is that most of the people in the lifestyle are not meeting at clubs and are not necessarily dancing and staying up until all hours of the night but are finding other avenues where they meet. What other options are out there. Venus Game night, Kandy K, Sensual Massage... These venues are not club scenes, are a relaxed place and quiet enough to talk without "using hand signals". There still might be music and a dance floor, but there are certainly quite areas to talk, socialize and sometimes even fuck, if that is your scene. I would estimate that as many or more people attend these type of events and for most of these it is an older crowd who is more apt to be in bed at an earlier hour, though that is also an assumption and assumptions are obviously a poor way to derive information or determine a truth. I would question if any of the people in this forum have attending these more mellow parties and what they didn't like about that. The loud music is gone, it is a great way to meet many nice, non-pushy people with similar interests and since the crowd is a bit more mature (probably not the Venus parties) then there would be people of similar interests there. Now it may be of benefit of the party hosts to start earlier, say 6 or 7, so the activities can finish up earlier and I'm sure the hosts would entertain that if it was a common complaint. Apart from these types of parties and club scenes the only other way to meet people in a group setting are house parties, although keep in mind the Sinful hosts to things outside of the club but the crowd will usually still be the same people who attend the Sinful Club parties so are probably younger and okay with staying up late and partying, so probably not for the majority of people responding on this forum looking for an early-to-bed group. Let's talk about house parties. The ones we host sometimes have upwards of 60 or 70 people. These are people we have met before, for the most part, and we don't invite random people to these. We have an area to dance, music, but also areas that are quiet. The party starts around 7 and goes until... whenever. 6 am at times, but many leave before that. These aren't orgy parties and people don't show up expecting that. We also do game nights where we have 3-5 couples over for games, drinks, no dancing, hot tub, etc. Also people we know. We have been to many house parties as well and it is usually people we have met before. We are very leery of parties where there is some expectation to show up and fuck. We avoid these. Not our scene. But these house parties are out there. The doors close at 9, naked by 10, fucking by 1015. You are expected to fuck someone. Definitely not for us but definitely an okay and acceptable thing for others. Judgment is such an incredibly hypocritical thing in the lifestyle and I am astounded by how many people judge others. It is one thing to not enjoy a certain thing and to stay away from it, but it demean it, negate the validity of it and try to reduce the people who do it is completely asinine. My point is there is a variety, a full spectrum to every aspect of the lifestyle. From people looking only to make friends to people only looking to fuck. There is no right and wrong or black and white. We have so many good friends now that we feel super fortunate and blessed every day. But how did we meet those friends. Here is the key. Through hard work. Through dinner dates, clubs, social events, house parties and networking. Remember, this is my opinion, so please, readers, don't get offended. If you limit yourself to one avenue your success will be limited and you will have very few options in finding that fun couple that you click with. Many of our friends that we have met at a club typically like to be in bed at 10, or sometimes like to stay up late. Some of the people we have met in the most casual environment turn out to be crazy, fun party animals. I'm not saying if you don't attend the clubs you won't find what you are looking for especially since we have already determined that the club scene is so small. What I am saying is that if you are expecting a one-stop shop, or a fix-all, your success will be super limited. Your goal, I believe, is to meet as many people as possible and then sort through those you like and don't like until you are satisfied with your results. If you label the "club scene" as negative in your own mind, you might also be inadvertently labeling other fun activities and only reinforcing the confirmation bias you already have. Don't limit yourself to one way of finding friends, especially since it sounds like it isn't working that well for you now. We have found friends in every imaginable situation. Single dates, group dates, vacations, house parties and yes, clubs. I know our way works simply by the amount of amazing people that surround us and we call friends, and yes, some friends with benefits. Taking the time to start a topic is a good idea. The people on here all seem to have a similar interest and maybe some of you will take advantage of that, meet, and if things align, you make new friends. Maybe there is a need for a group to form that meets around 6 and finishes around 10 where only wine is served and only soft music is playing in the background. If so, take the initiative and form such a group. Create your own success. Maybe there needs to be a better way to post smaller events where only a few couples are going camping, coffee drinking, or similar. And maybe it is on Swingular and just not being utilized correctly. I'm sure with enough feedback the site could be fitted with such a feature. So don't despair. There are many, many people with similar interests and needs. You just have to find them. Each scene and venue has positives and negatives. Try to focus on the negative and utilize the resources that they are and you just might find your holy grail of FWB or what else it is you are looking for. Good job on the topic and hopefully that perfect couple is just around the corner. Mr. SRO...................................................................................................

Tampa area Swingers gulf Cruises - - Clothing Optional Lifetsyle friendly Cruises Prepare yourself fo the time of your life aboard an intermidiate cruising vessel. Clothing is optional and public lifestyle displays are encouraged!!! This is the ultimate swingers party for both couples and singles. We have 2 different cruise options in terms of length. First we have our most common 3day 2 night cruise. This cruise is open to singles and couples, although single men will be limited to 6. Each cruise can accomodate up to 28 people. Itinerary Day 1 Arrive at the port in St Petersburg and Board the Boat at 11:30am We will disembark at 12:30pm and head out to the gulf. Enjoy a light lunch while we make our way out to sea. Once we are 35 miles off shore, clothing becomes optional. Enjoy socializing, sunbathing, or even becoming playful!!! At 5pm we will arrive at our point of anchor and stop for the evening. Enjoy a heartiful dinner under the Gulf Skies. After dinner, it is time for more socializing, drinking, dancing and whatever else you fancy. Remember, this is a swingers cruise, so feel free to enjoy yourself wherever and however you please. Day 2 Out at sea We stay anbchored for the entire second day. Greta time to get some rays, swim, have fun, or just relax and recover from the first night. After all the second night is still coming!!! Breakfast, lunch and dinner will be served along with snacks all day long. Day 3 We will pull up anchor and start heading back at noon. This will give you about 4 more hours of uninhibited onboard freedom. We will dock back in St. Petersburg at approximately 5:30pm. Breakfast and lunch will be served. Our other package is exactly the same as above, except it is 4 days and 3 nights. We do have a single Guy package as well. They disembark 3 times a year and sell out fast. Our next single guy cruise is going to be on Febuary 18,2005. Single cruises allow for 15 single men to be a board. The rest of the guests are couples looking for that special guy to share intimate times with and single women. These too our oriented towards the swingers lifestyle. The singles cruise is 3 days and 2 nights. Prices: 3day/2night Single Laides- $125.00 Couples- $525.00 Single men- $850.00 4day/3night Single ladies- $200.00 Couples- $700.00 Single men- $925.00 Single male cruise- Single ladies- $100.00 Couples- $575.00 Single men- $880.00 All cruises are all inclusive. We have 3 meals a day and snacks throught the entire cruise. Alcohol is also provided, as well. The below are scheduled dates for our 2005 cruises. These sell out fast, so book now!!! (3/2 is the 3 day, 2 night, 4/3 is the 4 day, 3 night and SM is the single male cruise) 3/2 (departs 3 weeks in a row, then takes a week off) January 14, 2005 January 21, 2005 January 28, 2005 4/2 (departs once a month) Febuary 4, 2005 March 4, 2005 SM (Departs the same days as the 3/2) January 14, 2005 January 21, 2005 January 28, 2005 We have 3 boats in total to use for our weekly and monthly cruises. If you wish to charter a boat for private parties, please let us know. We will also be planning week long cruises to jamaica, bahamas, and mexico. All of these cruises will have land stays at lifestyle friendly resorts. Remember, we sail every friday. You can book up to 6 months in advance, and we do have payment plans avaiable. To reserve your space, we require a 25% deposit, the balance has to be paid in full one week prior to your cruise date. Single guys!!! Dont want to go as a single? we have several single ladies that have asked us to partner them up with a guy for the dcruises. Once you book your cruise, we will give you the contact info for each lady, so you can meet and hopefully find that perfect companion. These girls are real swingers, not escorts looking for someone to share their time with, after all, what fun would a swingers cruise be all alone. We do have single ladies looking for couples and other ladies, as well. You cannot beat these prices anywhere!!! Contact us now with your questions and to make your reservations now. We do give group discount rates if your group is larger than 10 people, ask us about it. Along with the cruise packages we offer, we will also be planning a land trip to Hedonism III in may, please email us to be added to the interest list for this vacation, as we will be sending the info out in the next week.