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Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - K_T, you know that we'll play with you and toys any time ;)

Extramarital Affairs and the Lifestyle - Where do you stand? - **Bottom line here is can we just stop all the finger pointing, labeling, and judging? Morals are a personal thing and eveyone is entitled to theirs and I\'m of the mind set...don\'t force yours down my throat and I won\'t force mind down yours.** Wrong. No one is interested in passing judgement here. Simply stating the facts as they are. Also, I think that some of us have returned to the cheating vs swingnig morality issue that we agreed earlier was NOT the intended direction this thread was going in. The issue IS a moral one, as someone pointed out. However it isnt whether or not CHEATING is the same as SWINGING. Since the thread has been joined by so many other now (AND I THANK YOU GUYS FOR STEPPING UP AND SHARING!) several differing points of view have emerged. Some \"vanilla\" or traditional people attempt to convince their mates to swing (MALE OR FEMALE) and for whatever eason that partner says NO. That person can not accept this answer for whatever reason, and decides it is worth risking everything they hold dear to swing. We have explored that. On the other hand, other \"vanilla\" people HAVE NEVER, AND WOULD NEVER EVEN ATTEMPT TO BROACH THE SUBJECT TO THEIR MATES. For fear of hearing NO, for fear of divorce...whatever...These same people, as one of our single gentleman pointed out...would look down upon us and label us sinners for being \"SWINGERS\" and all that they quite incorrectly feel that entails, and then in the same breath, go out and CHEAT on their mates. (I know one where she cheated on her husband with the pasteur of their church!) Cheating is actually more accpetable than swinging to a LOT of \"vanilla\" people. To share their mate, agree on the format, and practice an open dialogue about it is unthinkable. To cheat is not. >>TO ADDRESS THE CHEATING SWINGER ISSUE AGAIN<< This was never meant to single out you single guys out there, and I am not going to defend this post, or our stand on it. If you have read our profile, you should understand that we date single men and women almost exclusively! We just prefer to know the TRUTH about your situation, and beleive it or not, in this lifestyle...that is a tall order. As someone else said, that is a choice each of you has to make. We would prefer to know the truth about your situation so that we can decide to say NO for fear of creating hurt feelings and contributing to the end of a relationship that we are not even a part of. My mind will not allow me to justify what my heart knows to be just plain wrong. Luvbugs! ;)

Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - At our crazy all niter two weekends ago at JJ Western Swing, we started asking people what their sign was. It amazed me that most of the people there playing were either Taurus or the majority, Gemini. Now I know all you Scorpio's are going to jump in here and claim it's YOU. Everyone agrees you are the most promiscuous... but seriously.... I was surprised. I am wondering if Gemini's maintain this professional, analytical front during the week and on the weekend the evil, naughty, nasty twin busts out. Can anyone enlighten me? I do know that I sure enjoyed playing with that guy, which ever twin was taking over!! The game is on! xoxo Tori - Taurus / Tan - Gemini --------- Thanks again for playing the Zodiac Game and for all your kind personal replies to us! After 3 days of posting and 107 responses and 1895 views, here are the totals as of 4-8-09 12:30pm: We have also included "what each sign says after sex" just for fun. ------------ Scorpio 15 =14% -"Let me untie you!" Gemini 13 =12% -"It was good! Let

Bi - - Well, Utah does has one of the highest if not the highest population of gays per capita. So we know there are a lot of bi-men here. But this is still a very conservative state and they like to keep things under wraps. We've found in most religious societies there are large groups who push away or break away from what is socially acceptable in that area. In rural Utah there are some towns that are 100% Mormon, yet in Salt Lake City the numbers are less. I thinks its 65% non Mormon to 35% Mormon. Our profile name is bi-couple, but I (male) am not attracted to men, but to the Transgender. I am more attracted to Feminine energy that the Transgender carries not the Masculine energy of men. We believe that there are three sexes, male, female, transgender. Yes that means that a person could be Tri-sexual. We are a very,very open couple and consider ourselves to be more Polyamorous, than swingers. But we respect all sexualities and lifestyle choices.

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - I think there are a number of definitions of "moral". I've always tried to live a good clean, law-abiding life - one guided by the Golden Rule. I've never stolen from anyone, I've never killed anyone, and I've never knowingly done anything to hurt anyone. As it applies to the Swinging Lifestyle, let me put it this way: I may "fuck" your wife - but I'd never "fuck" you. So tell me, does that make me moral or immoral?

real members? - - I think you need to grow a new sense about people. Do you feel confortable with them over the net before you do anything. Do they seem to be real.. Can they spell simple words, is their grammer adult, how do they phrase things. Many times one can ascertain quite a lot by how and what someone says. Then we have kind of an unwritten rules: 1. Talk with people via the medium .. IM... the site we're on email and give no personal info until you feel that the people are at least stable. 2. Don't meet people or find people over an hour or so driving time 3 Meet very informally... We've found that a mall with a food court is a great place to meet. If the other couple fail to show take the misses shopping... 4. Once you meet you can exchange phone numbers or addresses as you feel comfortable doing. Maybe after the informal meeting meet at a local swingers club or dinner or bowling...what ever works to make sure they are a good match....and trustworthy. 5. The fun is open and go for the gold... As for certifying couples... what does it mean other than there are really 2 people on the other end of that computer unless it is done by your peers who have met and or played with you. Certification is about as valued as is the pictures on a web-site. They could be the people or maybe they aren't who they say they are... Ray

FAKES CERTIFIED AS REAL!?!?!?!? - HOW DO WE GET RID OF THE FAKES? - We also have been talking with her - or him, apparently. Maybe the rules need to be adjusted - whoever certified this freak should have their certification priviliges taken away. I also spoke with his ex-girlfriend - poor girl, she really has had a hard time with this. This guy gave out HER contact information - she was getting calls and texts from swingers, not knowing what was going on. Hopefully, the admin will address this accordingly! A&K

Anyone interested in BDSM - Anyone interested in Bdsm? - Hello sexy people. Before we get a ton of replies suggesting specific kink sites we are aware of them and are not satisfied w the results With all the open minded , sex positive attitudes of swingers we are hoping to meet likeminded people interested in any or all aspects of BDSM. Surely there must be some overlap on Swingilar with folks that like more extreme types of play? Just wondering...

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sh*t swingers say - to preach to the choir - Everyone of those points they made we have heard and said ourselves lol. Makes this life grand!!! sara