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Single Men Meeting Couples - Are Single Men Treated Un Fairly In The Lifestyle - Yeah, This subject has been beaten like a dead horse. It just comes down to a few simple things. 1. If single guys doesn't get invites, they feel rejected on sites like these. 2. It's couples choice. The couple have probably talked and decided what they are looking fore before posting an ad. 3. Get over it. Yes I know from personal experience that single men aren't always looked upon in this lifestyle in the brightest of light. You can thank those that don't respect the boundries of a couple for that. I have years of experience from going to swingers club in San Diego that did allow single men. I've witnessed the pushy single male, the "voltures" circling the carion. I would always tell the ones that would listne to me what it takes to play with a couple. 1. Be respectful. Respect the couples rules and wishes. 2. Be freindly, don't go up starting with " do you want to play". Introduce yourself, and spark a conversation about something completely off topic. 3. No is no. Don't pleade, or beg if a couple says no. Accept the answer, be polite and move on. Wow, it's just that simple to get respect from a couple, and maybe an invite to play.

Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - I don't believe in astrology or base myself or anybody else upon when during the year they were born, but just for random stats... I'm a saggittaurius. He's a scorpio. I don't feel either one of us fit into the description given for either sign except for perhaps the fact that we're both horndogs. But that's prolly why we're swingers. We're very open-minded adventurous horndogs. :P

KSL swing story - - For those of you guys out of town. This is the transcript from the KSL website. "Everyone has shared their partners with everyone else in the room." "You're in happy valley and you think nothing like that could happen." An Eyewitness News Investigation takes us inside a delicate subject few people like to talk about -- infidelity, couples cheating, in secret, in the open, and joining a movement that appears to be gaining momentum. We heard persistent rumors that spouse-swapping and adultery is commonplace in certain suburban neighborhoods. We discovered those rumors were based on at least some truth. People told us they were being recruited -- marriage counselors say they are seeing more if it. There aren't statistics or easy answers, but it's clear the effects can be devastating. Love, commitment, holy matrimony. In Utah, where marriage vows and family values run deep. Woman: "They said it was more exciting when their spouse was involved." This story will open eyes to something many would like to keep secret. "It was taboo within their religious background." "I thought, this can't be happening here. This is Utah." Sometimes it's kept very quiet, among neighbors and friends. Other times, it's out in the open. Studies show infidelity is to blame for more than half of divorces in Utah. What we found surprised even experts. We knocked on doors, attended a party. We heard stories by phone, by email, but nothing could match what we heard in a pocket of Draper. "Something was wrong with every other neighbor in that neighborhood." Her husband's indiscretions shattered their marriage. "Intensely, intensely painful. It's the hardest thing I've ever been through in my life." The divorce final, he remarried one of their neighbors within a week. It seems adultery ran rampant. Up the block it was consensual with other married neighbors cheating together. People told us they moved to get away from it and stayed inside to avoid it. Across town one woman told us she just wanted to run from it: "Everyone in the room had shared their partners with everyone else in the room. These people had been married five, 10, 20 years." She and her husband were invited to a barbeque with couples from Draper, Provo, Sandy and Salt Lake. A doctor made a move. "He's hitting on me, like he's single, and his wife's sitting right there. I think, there's another motive to this party and it's not just to hang out and meet new people." They got out of there. While there's no data, experts say it's proof of a trend. Vicky Burgess/Ph.D. Clinical Psychologist: "I think, because sexual relations and sex itself is more open, I think we're seeing more of it." We found there are several parties where couples can meet. Randy Chatelain, Ph.D./ Marriage and Family Therapist: "I believe this kind of behavior is going to catch up with a couple, because where does it stop? What more do you have to involve to create the high?" Hundreds of couples pack a popular Sandy nightclub. "A lot of people nowadays have fantasies and they want to fulfill them with their significant other. This is the best way to do that." This man, who asked not to be identified, built a business, helping couples meet at parties. His website suggests spouses can be in love and still enjoy sex with others. "They figure, 'I would much rather do it with the person I love than have them do it behind my back.'" From the looks of it, he's pretty successful. He has 4,000 members living in Utah. How fast is it growing? Four years ago there were 150 members. How common is it? Posing as a married woman, we signed up on a website aimed at so-called "swingers." In six days, 70 married men, most from Utah, ask to start a fling.

That little nudge many of us need - - [quote=PARTYINLV]We think honesty is the best way to be. If she found out about the meeting without her knowledge, your tryst into the lifestyle may be over. Plus, she might feel the pressure to play at some point anyway. Also, she will always wonder if the next meeting is arranged without her knowledge. Evildoers is correct in meeting with zero chance of playtime. Take their advice. She will feel more relaxed and could enjoy herself with the pressure off. We will take it a step further: Step 1: Set up a date with ZERO playtime opportunity and let the other couple know that. Do something fun (a hike, Topgolf, etc) and get to know them. At the conclusion of the date, let them know that if they do not receive a message from YOU within 24 hours, you don't feel you are a match. Step 2: If you send a message to meet again, let them know your intent and your boundaries. For example, (kissing ok), (fondling ok), (bi kissing ok), (same room, separate room, either room ok), (nudity ok or not). But, speak honestly with each other about this. It's not nice to lead people on after you have committed. At the conclusion of the date, let them know that if they do not receive a message from YOU within 24 hours, you are not ready to go further. Step 3: If you send a message to meet again, let them know what is acceptable. For example (full swap or soft swap), (same room, separate rooms or either ok), (kissing or no kissing), (bi play) etc. Again, you will have to be honest with yourselves if you can do this. By a third date, the other couple has invested a lot of time in you. So, be nice and don't lead them on. Enjoy the playtime. Save enough time for the afterglow sex with them relaxing, chatting, and laughing. By this point, you may have found a couple that you can see multiple times. Doing vanilla activities with them might be a bonus. They may even introduce you to their lifestyle friends too. The other option is attending a house party where play is not expected. You will be able to speak to several couple and perhaps, use the process above. Or you can play that night. When we entered the lifestyle, we never had that couple who could mentor us. After we considered ourselves as no longer newbies, we became the newbie "whisperers" to offer what we never had. However, we've gotten away from newbies since our circle is with experienced swingers now. But with covid, we would date newbies again.[/quote] Sounds like an excellent plan to avoid those one and done awkward meet ups👍

Thailand swingers - Any suggestions for swinging in Thailand - We are going on vacation to Thailand in November and we are wondering anyone knows what happening there for swingers. Not interested in another girl or guy but couples that might meet at a swingers club or even someone who is a resident. Not really looking for someone in the sex trade. Anyone have any suggestions...thanks

Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world. The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for. You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies. Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck! edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em]

PICTURE SURFERS HANG A 180 LOL - - I think what they mean by "friends and MAYBE more" is that they are looking for friends first and if everyone establishes a friendship and clicks sexually more will follow. I guess everyone is different when it comes to the lifestyle and some take it more slowly than others. Some require a strong friendship before playing, some don't. Some feel that they may establish a friendship but one of the people just doesn't click sexually with one or more of the others and that feeling needs to be respected by all. When we first started we were in the mindset that we had to find "best friends" with benefits and quickly discovered that we don't necessairly need to be best of friends, we do need to like the other people though and feel that attitude and personality are very important to us. We've been fortunate enough to maintain a friendship with everyone we've played with and some that we haven't because one of the group just couldn't make it to that level but we still maintain contact with each other. I guess what I hate the most is when you run across someone that thinks that just because you are in the lifestyle and on a swingers site you automatically have to lay down and spread for anyone that asks. Doesn't happen often but seems like we get more than our share of it.

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LAVA HOTSPRINGS - - [quote=78BEAST]Where can we find out more info about the fire and ice event in Lava?[/quote] The Lava Hot Springs Fire & Ice Winterfest is held each year over the first full weekend of February. The town has a website you can follow for upcoming events. Lava Hot Springs is a popular swingers hangout, most of it is informal, but several groups and organizations do hold Lava Meet N Greets throughout the year. The next meet and greet I'm aware of is May 24-26 Risqué School House Rock. Accommodations vary from rustic to some very nice places with their own private hot tubs. Soaking in the Hot Springs is very popular in the winter and tubing the Portneuf River is extremely popular in the summer. Hope that helps.

WTH over? - Private picture debacle. - So we recently did a post on bareback and cumming in strangers. 😉. Hot, we know. And we have to say WOW! Thanks for all of the incredible messages and forum posts. I don’t think we’ve received that much mail in a long time. We’re flattered. But to the subject of this post we have to ask. And here goes. Why? Why oh why oh why do couples and/or singles have private pictures when they are the same thing as your public pictures? If we add or accept a couple, that means we are interested and like what we read and saw in your public posts and pics and now want to see the rest of you. If it’s nothing else to look at then honestly what’s the point? You are swingers. Stop being shy and show yourselves. If you’re truly worried about “your job” or others seeing you than maybe you’re in the wrong place? We don’t say that to be snarky. But I’m pretty sure your conservative neighbor or corporate manager won’t be viewing your profile. And if they do than they’ll want you to be just a discreet as you expect others to be right? Show those beautiful mugs! Let us see who we’re courting. We’re looking to share our spouses in the most intimate of encounters and we’re not meeting up in the hopes that we are attracted. Don’t be shy. We don’t bite. Ok we may nibble a little bit we don’t bite. Show yourselves or we’re calling the swing police. Next is the requests with no pics or single males with no pics. Two words. Nope - Delete. End of story. If you have nothing to show or share we’re not here to provide entertainment for your impending jerk off session. Buy a flesh light and some lube and go away. 😉 To those with the beautiful spreads (pictures and pussies) we thank you. And for taking the time to write some very nice messages. We will be answering everyone. If you don’t hear back than that’s usually a good sign that you’re just not our type. Nothing personal. But I think that’s how most people do it. We can say no thanks but that feels harsh so we avoid it. But so far we’ve seen pretty much all good. Yay! I can say there are some gorgeous couples on here. We really look forward to possibly meeting some of you. Or meating some of you. Either or. But seriously, we’re excited to meet some new friends. And then violate them in the most licentious sort of way. 😘. Thanks for sharing and being vulnerable with us regarding a real delicate subject. We’re blown away by the honesty and all the like minds. Now let’s all have some kinky fun!!! K & A.