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Playing Alone - - Couples all have different rules. Many categorically refuse to play alone with ANYONE ever. This is their "security" place. They feel comfortable in the place where they can see each other and "protect" if necessary. It takes some people a long time to get passed this.
It's kind of a 'control' thing leftover from the vanilla life. I'm not saying it's bad, good or indifferent it's just the way it is. Some people take longer to get passed their histories as vanillas than others. As they progress and get more comfortable with themselves, the lifestyle, their partners then they will slowly open up and begin to trust a bit more.
Don't take it personally, that's the key. Many people still hang on to their vanilla background that their partners are their most 'valued' possession. I liken it to my $450 deep sea fishing reel. Sure I'll loan it to someone to use if I'm on the boat with them and can make sure they're taking care of it. Is there anyone I'd just let 'borrow' it out right for the day or weekend? Not a chance in hell.
It takes time to let go of that 'she's/he's mine' get feeling. I think my wife and I took almost 6 years before we got there successfully. We tried many times before that but it never worked out well for either of us. We finally came to a point where it's okay to play separately everything from next room to next state it no longer bothers us. I personally prefer within 30 - 50 miles so she get's home faster for the "after play" sex you're describing (which I really like too.)
You'll have to find a VERY secure, VERY established, VERY strong couple to fulfill your fantasy. They are out there, my wife and I for example but even though we're open to playing separately are we open to YOU playing with her or me separately? That's a different level of trust. Does it mean no? No. It means "maybe" in time it's a possibility. (I'm speaking hypothetically of course.)
Don't worry your "couple" or "person" will come along. You might also try investigating a subsection of the lifestyle called "hotwifeing" while I know few swingers who are hardcore into only hotwifing, there are quite a few that tip toe in that part of the lifestyle (quick def, she plays he doesn't except with her.) That's the post play joy for you and the play and post play joy for her. Most people just bounce between that and swinging. There are people out there just be patient and don't expect it from any current playmates that you have established rules with, they need to progress at their own speed.
Indiana sub cocksucker for Alpha - Sub needs trained - Good luck finding your alpha daddy but i think I speak for a lot of swingers go find it somewhere else! Maybe a gay site!
Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - May I recommend a wonderful book? The Ethical Slut: A Practical Guide to Polyamory, Open Relationships & Other Adventures. Written by Dossie Easton and Janet W. Hardy. I found this book very positive, helpful and informative. A wonderful guide to that "evolution" you are referring to. Best of luck!
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - our 1988 325i M only one in america... only one of 5 in the world... my baby..this was its 2001 magazine photo in englands 'total bmw' magazine
Android swingers apps? - - Can anyone else recommend some good swingers apps or just pure sex hook up apps they have had good results with?
Who knows if enough of us use one app swingular can partner or arrange to work with an app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=emilio.swingers
This is one i found it has some people but not many...
And is touchy on the phones it works with...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.desasic.whosfuckin
this one has a few users listed locally but have not had time to test lol
Joking around with the wife - - Yeah, we know about them being upside down. She said she did it like that to not make it as noticeable to the vanillas that do know about it and for the swingers that do to wonder.
Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - tell us more about Kik and how it operates and how to join
Swingers clubs or parties - - Try the Trapeze Club. I was there a few months ago with friends. Here is the link:
http://www.trapezeclub.com/trapnew/atlanta/home.htm (cut and paste the link in your browser)
swinger ? or not. - - Gotta love semantics. What is your definition of a swinger? Merriam Webster defines a swinger thusly:
a : a person who is lively, exciting, and up-to-date
b : one who engages freely in sex
There are those who would use the term in a variety of different ways. Some would vehemently deny that single people could be swingers and fall back on a previously used term of "wife swapping". Bottom line, a swinger, to you, is whatever YOU decide one is and if you consider yourself a swinger then you're a swinger. Someone else's definition is meaningless. JMHO
Tooele areas - Who is from tooele - [quote=Harleynight12345678]The Kik group was fun but no one met...and I mean some swingers in the area๐๐ my nad[/quote]
Are you not willing to travel. Their are ton's of peeps on this site looking for single males.
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