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Single Females or Couples open to single men - - [quote=Sm435]I really don’t think it was a bashing, just an opinion. We mostly play with singles. TBH we don’t give two fucks who we play with as long as there is attraction and we have fun. That said, I think the bashing would be greatly reduced with some site changes. We are in some that you need a valid post count or other ways to validate yourself, before being able to post new threads. Or maybe have forum spots for single’s posts. While we do play mostly with singles, we are definitely tired of trial members sending friend requests or seeing posts of single guys looking for single women. There are sites for that, as that’s not swinging (sorry kitten) it’s called hooking up, so use tinder. What people are gripping about is this is a swingers forum, you must be two people with trust in a relationship to actually swing, and they come here, a site they paid for, to see it crawling with singles posts. Some of the sexy pictures threads that have been going for years, still have comments by singles all over in them. I think they want to see the couples profiles here treated, or have more rights, than the singles. I’m not bashing anyone, in any way, it’s allowed so go for it. They just want the site rules different.[/quote] I completely agree with you here. My girl is very new to all of this. We get a lot of messages from pushy single men. I guess I need to look at my settings again, but it would make sense if you could turn off messages from certain groups. Something similar to POF in the beginnings. If you don’t meet age requirements, have pictures, or whatever it simply states you can’t message this user!

Other activities? - Do you only meet swingers for sex? - I\'d say that the closest friendship we currently *have* - has included both playtimes - and times when everybody was clear that we were *not* playing. We encountered the couple on a nude-camera page, so first contact was \"sexual intentions\" and we got to know each other and had a period of increasing sexual intensity. But then one of the people tired of the sex and we just shut it off - but spend lots of time together doing just about everything. The *best* relationships, I think, integrate playtime: what else *can* be as intimate as sex? But a good relationship doesn\'t depend on sex, either.

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - Morals are a set of rules we live by; some can be bent, some can be broken, right? It's that thing that allows people who are religiously devout to swing despite whatever teachings there are about such things; it's that "twist" in thinking that allows people to be bi- or homosexual and all despite what the majority has to say about it. It's all about what works for you within the framework of what society considers to be moral. There's right and wrong... but it's really about what's right and wrong for you, isn't it? And, really, if someone busting your ass about your "immoral" behavior, well, what skeletons do they have hiding in their closet, hmm? To that end, isn't it a matter of he who is without sin casting the first stone? I'm thinking there won't be a lot of people reaching for rocks... Rob

Is this one of your rules? What is it? is it fear? or something - Does everyone feel this way? -

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We (Tami and I) have never ran across anyone that said they didn't want to have sex and only wanted to make friends. We have ran across those that want to be friends (have trust established), first. The latter I can totally understand, as we are two people that require trust in people we play with. We also find attraction in the personality and minds of the individual. Have there been exceptions for us? Yes, however, we have found that "spur of the moment" play was unsatisfying and regrettable. We try not to label people. We just avoid those that are into something we are not. Just as a couple not into anal sex would avoid sexual contact with those seeking anal. We avoid those that want to hook-up on first meetings without inhibition. Why? There are forceful individuals, there are deviants, there are bi-sexual males that think they can touch without permission, there are people who drug others, there are people that smoke pot and others that can't be around it due to their profession. The latter doesn't have to end a friendship as we happen to be in professions that don't allow exposure, we just had to perfect a little dance with our pot smoking friends. Many people view this as a "lifestyle". We certainly view the "free thought and expression" as a "lifestyle" but the "sex with others", is a recreational thing that we can turn on and off like a switch. Sometimes we feel like playin with our swingers buddies and sometimes we just like talking, drink and having other types of fun with them. Swingers or "Libertines", as I like to refer to them, are mostly "free thinker" types so I like to interact with them on other levels as well. Though there are still those types that only swing for the sex and still have closed minds in regard to everything else. Those are the types I find strange. How you can be a conservative swinger is beyond me. However, I respect anyone's desire to fuck. So I do not judge. I just decide who fucks me and my wife. That's all. We all can't be compatible with everyone on all levels, all the time. It's impossible. Whether it's fucking or writing in the forum, there is always gonna be someone that doesn't like you. Trust me, I know this first hand. So, like ole Rick Nelson once said... You can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself. That's a rule to fuckin live by.
-Don-

Tired of Politics and Religion! - - I humbly suggest that you folks get a grip! I believe this site is a national site? Do you hear the rest of the nation bitching when the forum turns into a Utah date-a-thon every Thursday through Saturday? Personally, it doesn't do a whole hell of a lot for me! Therefore, I should suggest you all knock it off? If all you care to converse about 24/7 is sex, maybe it would be a good idea to find additional outlets for your narrowly focused world! The popularity of some of the current threads would indicate to me that some swingers are able to discuss real life situations as well. Politics and religion are hot button topics and elicit strong emotions. Name-calling is likely to be a result. Solution - DON"T READ non-sex related threads. I don't happen to like name-calling, so I'm usually able to resist the temptation. But, the narrow-minded responses on this thread so far have me working on a few. :) Dale

Family Swingular Members - OMFG and you do a search and see a close family member on the list..... - [quote=TOMNTAMMY]yes when i found out my son and his girl are swingers[/quote] oh my... I am not sure how I would do with that one a cousin is one thing but my kids would be a different playing field.

On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - Is there any good swinger clubs in las vegas we are going there next month and would like to play ?

Meeting new swingers? - Where to meet them? - We have met most via the web. The first couples we met were at a club but since then is all the web.. We have also noticed that a lot of local couples say they want to meet but when presented with a genuine couple that is local (same town or next one over) we try to meet and then get the

Going out on a limb... - - I'm not sure that what I am about to say has anything to do with this thread, but I am beyond pissed right now and I feel the need to vent... so here goes. Why do single males have a hard time? On another swingers site, a section of our profile states.. "Please be discreet when sending us a Yahoo instant message." There's nothing worse then having a message pop up on the screen that says "YOUR WIFE HAS GREAT TITS ARE YOU INTERESTED IN A HUNG SINGLE MALE?" While showing off your vacation pictures to visiting relatives, friends, etc." So what happens.... a message just like that pops up. I type back and say "Why would you send a message like that?" "Do you have any clue who is looking at this computer screen right now?" I get back... "I'm on [swinger site name] and I like your pics... do you want to meet?" I point out where it states being discreet on the IM and I add "What the hell is wrong with you sending messages like that?" Here's what I get back.... "WELL YOU'RE THE ONE LETTING STRANGE GUYS FUCK YOUR WIFE" Now we've played with many single guys... and I know that many many many are really nice and intelligent and mature.... but this one really set you all back several notches.... It just isn't worth it when I'm clued in to the mind set that exists among a percentage of you.

Poly ideas - Ethical non-monogamy...I like that label. - A few other "Poly Ideas" we have had...a beach resort for swingers called "Poly Shore". Jeans with special condom holders made exclusively for the lifestyle called "Poly Pockets". A full time art school for swingers run by "Leave it to Beaver's" Tony Dow,called "Poly Wally Doodle all the Day" . The high end grocery store/basketball arena for lifestylers called "Poly Pavilions". But it turns out it was just a slightly nicer "Poly Vons" grocery store/basketball arena. And lastly a white supremisist lifestyle dating site called "Poly want a Cracker".