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Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world. The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for. You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies. Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck! edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em]

Safe Sex - How do you (or don't you) protect yourselves? - Condoms? Yes, please. However...I can think of quite a few reasons why some people are opposed to using them; Intimacy, sensation, alergies, penis size, etc. None of them seems compelling enough to me to make an acception though... As \"swingers\" there is very very very little possibility that we (despite the fact that mRs. Luvbugs is \"fixed\") would allow anyone to be with either of us unless there was protection involved. In 12 years we have seen unwanted pregnancys, a paternity suit that became very nasty, STD\'s passed from one couple to another, and complete dishonesty about the sexual history of the person in question. What cracks us both up is when we get these letters that say \"Vasectomy SAFE.\" Get the f**k outta here! Are you serious? Safe from what? Pregnancy? A condom will do that nicely buddy, and as long as you arent trying to fuck a hole in someones back, they shouldnt really break all that often. Everyone believes that they have led a good life and have avoided the contraction of an STD. I would like to be able to accept that fact in good faith, but there is no way I can allow myself to think in such a naiive manner. There are even those in this world who would KNOWINGLY pass a deadly disease such as AIDS to another person out of pure spite that they themselves have contracted it. There are risks with oral sex as well, but the probability of contracting anything serious is atleast somewhat less then through vaginal intercourse. I just cant see it. It amazes me. A person would have to be plain stupid to take that risk. Just our .02 cents. Luvbugs! (mR.) ;)

How to identify yourself as a Swinger - - [quote=EVILDOERS]LOL, yeah this subject...or fantasy (and the black ring, or the ankle bracelet, or the...(insert urban legend here)) crops up every few months or so. Bottom line, no matter how hard people want to find a way to ID other swingers in public it won't happen. Let's say for a minute that all or even just most swingers DID agree somehow on some kind of article to wear or display. It would take about 24 hours (likely less) for someone to post it online and it would be pretty much common knowledge within a week. Ergo nobody would actually display it for fear of being outed. Sorry, just human nature on all counts. We identify other swingers the old fashioned way. Sheer irrational speculation. Either that of we consult the Psychic Network. Both ways work equally well. [em]Emo_67[/em] [/quote] Ah yes, i see you point there. Makes perfect sense. Sorry if this was brought up before, cant seem to find a way to search the forums? Is there a way?

International Swingers Day - How are you celebrating? - I think we are late to the party..

New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - We'd love to have one! Since we can't host it would be nice to meet up and have a place to play spontaneously. 1. We would attend (assuming there is often a crowd) 2. Around once a month 3. Play rooms, sitting area, dance floor, pool table, "couples only" area, preferably a large open setting 4. $25-50 per couple $30-125 single males $0-25 single females (depending on how nice the club is) I've often wondered why almost every other state but Utah has swingers clubs. I've always assumed it was legal limitations. But honestly if you could swing it (pun intended), we'd love it!

Do you long for your "vanilla" friends? - Have you been with any? - [quote=DANISHDAME]> I'm attracted to the notion of connecting with a solid LDS couple. Something about those women🔥👍 Haha that's the opposite for me! If I hear someone's LDS I turn right around[/quote] Agree. The problem with Mormon women (and men!) is that if they're strict, by-the-book Mormons, they were virgins (we were!) when they got married and know little to nothing about sex and how to pleasure the human body (including their own!). It took us a LONG time to figure out sex and THEN, once we started swinging, to realize that there is a big wide world of sexual experiences and techniques and that no single act, 'move', or technique is universally preferred or desired by everyone. Having said that, probably the vast majority of swingers we've encountered in Utah are or were Mormons and you have to decide, especially if they're new and/or you're trying to convert them, if you're kind of willing to be mentors (for lack of a better term) and/or just be very very patient and sort of go back to the basics or at least to whatever level that they're at. It's really quite sad since we've known SO many Mormons who strictly followed their law of chastity only to find, after they were married, that they weren't at all sexually compatible. And I personally think that is one of the leading causes of divorce (along with different types of abuse) among Mormons. P.S. I hope this didn't come across as condescending. Like I said, we were Mormons and went thru pretty much everything I mentioned above. But we were some of the lucky ones who were both pretty much on the same page sexually. P.S.S. If you DO happen to find a great current or former Mormon couple who is keen on having sex with other couples, you're likely to unleash a LOT of repressed sexual energy that you will likely enjoy very much! [em]Emo_4[/em]

Go turn on Oprah - re:swingers - Yeah, wetfem! She was hot, bi too! lol although Oprah just seem to glaze right over that, did you notice? hehe

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - We are getting off of track of what this post was created for, it wasn't to make fun or the party or who is attending age limitations. it's was to see who would want to party for those who can't attend due to it being sold out.

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - I'd like to make a distinction here, if I might. I'm always a little disappointed when I read about Veterans on Memorial Day. Not to find fault, at all, mind you - but let me explain... I'm as grateful as anyone for our Veterans; the people who served (and still do) every day to defend our way of life. They are, without questions, this nation's very best. I was one of them, and my wife...so we know the very special sacrifices that every Veteran makes; every Veteran's family makes... But, remember: we have a day, just for remembering those people: It's November the 11th, and while it started out being called 'Armistice Day', it is now called 'Veterans Day'. That, my friends, is the day to show how much you appreciate what those people do. But what of today? What about Memorial Day? Well, as an honorably discharged Veteran, and a military brat...I'm very glad you all feel so proud, and I'd trade nothing for the privilege of serving this country as I did. But Memorial Day's not for me. In spite of anything I may have done for this country - regardless of whatever sacrifice I may have made...I did not pay the price that Memorial Day is intended to honor. I wrote a poem, and I hope you can understand the meaning... ____________________________________________________ Don't remember me today, for I didn't pay the price Shed a tear and say your thanks for one who sacrificed my time was short in uniform thank God I was not killed my fallen brothers wear today that which they always will My time will come, on Veteran's day and I will proudly smile if you extend your thanks to me for going an extra mile They gave their all so we could say we live forever free so for today, I ask you please to not remember me... ____________________________________________________ Finally, because I'm always compelled to remember the great sacrifice and honor with which some did serve...and page from history: ____________________________________________________ Lydia Bixby, November 21, 1864 Dear Madam, I have been shown in the files of the War Department, a statement of the Adjutant General Of Massachusetts, that you are the mother of five sons who have died gloriously on the field of battle. I feel how weak and fruitless must be any words of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming. But I cannot refrain from tendering to you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the Republic they died to save. I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours, to have laid so costly a sacrific upon the altar of freedom. Yours, very sincerely and respectfully, A. Lincoln ____________________________________________________ Folks, let's all please try to remember, when it's Memorial Day: "...to have laid so costly a sacrific upon the altar of freedom" Take care, now. 2

Polyamory - Please share your thoughts.... - you can be non-monogamous without being a swinger. polygamists aren't swingers.