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Divorce rates - How do we compare - We are a bit of an older couple with a different prospective. Amoung our swinging friends and aquaintances if we were to generalize it is that they are on a second marriage, have been married for 10 years or so and are very happy. Amoung our non-swinging friends they are on their first second, or third marriage and are generally unhappy. I would put the divorce rate amoung the non-swingers at more than double that of the swingers over a 10 year period.
Exotic Dreams Resort and Hotel in Palm Spring - - [quote=TRIZZLE]My wife and I are just exploring the idea of engaging in the lifestyle but haven't quite yet. Would a resort like this be a good place to "watch from a distance" amd maybe meet and chat with others in a similar situation?[/quote]
You can absolutely go to a resort and "watch". When we went to Hedo we were shocked at how many total newbies were there (outnumbered the seasoned swingers 2 to 1...but that could have been an anomaly for all we know). But we also saw more than a few inexperienced couples who caused some drama because they got there, got all hot and bothered, and weren't ready for the consequences (and weren't on the same page as far as the "what if's" of jumping into the lifestyle). YMMV
weight approperate - - We have been in the lifestyle together for 10 years now and couples not being up front about just wanting to play with the wife alone has always been a problem with us. We let people know upfront we only play together.
Now on the weight subject...We advertise ourselves unashamedly about being a BBW/BHM couple. We also let people know if its Ken and Barbie they want they need to move on down to the next profile. We have played with HWP couples as well as with Big Beautiful Couples like ourselves. The HWP couples we have played with in the past have been amazed at our level of inhibition and sensuality. In short it was an eye opener for them...Big people can be very sexual.
One thing we have noticed is that lifestyle web sites, magazines and clubs seem to perpetuate the Barbie and Ken mystique. How often on a swinger web site have you seen a BBW, BHM of even a BBC on their front page? The same goes for magazines and advertising for clubs and lifestyle conventions and events. Even here on Swingular we have yet to see even a featured member that is a person or couple of size. In our humble opionion it's something swingers media needs to address.
Our whole take on the topic is this...If your mind is so closed that you can not see beyond exteriors then its your loss.
We started a Yahoo group called Big Beautiful Couples and Ladies a couple years ago with the idea that if membership grew large enough maybe organizing an event similar to Lifestyles or Hedonism II. Though the membership is small we still have the passion for the idea of a convention with Big Beautiful People as the primary attendees. We are still checking to see if there is a similar group here on Swingular and if not we'll be getting it rocking and rolling.
If we want people in the lifestyle to be more accepting of size (both women & men) we have to learn to be our own best advocates.
Have an erotic day
Howie & Susie
Here's something Ive been curious about - - I think over the years we've pretty much seen and heard it all in regards to this subject and who is and isn't a "real" swinger. It kind of all boils down to semantics, doesn't it? Is it really that important to label it and each other? If swinging is a more of a mindset then yes, singles (male and female) are swingers too. I think, perhaps, that what some of the couples might be trying to get at (inelegantly IMO) is that in many ways perhaps singles don't really have as much invested in the process as couples do. As a swinging couple (remember it used to be called "wife swapping") you are in effect opening your relationship to some very real risk. If you don't think that's the case you either are in denial or haven't been around the scene that long. Singles simply aren't running the same risk although it could be argued they do have some risks, especially single females who at very least have some safety issues going into sometimes unknown situations alone. I guess you could argue single males also have a few risks as well. Also, of course, there is the whole argument of singles "not bringing anything to the table". An oft quoted argument to denote they don't have a partner to "swap". True enough in some regards but not entirely true in that they bring themselves and variety to the table for those couples not looking for a couples swap or who want to fulfill other fantasies or who have difficulty finding a fourway connection or attraction. Ultimately I think it's unnecessary for couples who don't want to play with singles (most often it's just single guys, a double standard perhaps?) to diss singles by saying they aren't swingers. And it's also probably not necessary for a few singles to complain that they aren't given an equal place at the table when they indeed do not come prepared to risk the same that couples must risk. Bottom line. Swing how you want to swing and don't swing how you don't want to swing. There's actually room for everyone even if we aren't all necessarily sitting at the same table.
Lifestyle Stats - - TINKERDORK, is that anything like the glass is half full or the glass is half empty? I suppose if it's a glass dildo that doesn't matter...
Statistically speaking there should be something like 127,323 Mormons in America (more than double that world wide) who are also Swingers. Given the repressed nature of the religion, and most religions in general, there are probably that many in the closet...
Wouldn't in be nice if you didn't have to hide it?
Mr. Sexperimentors
St. Pete FL... Anyone out there!?!?!? - - In Tampa there is club Elite and also Eyez Wide Shut. To be honest - this website is not the best for FL swingers, although I bought a lifetime membership a while ago when it seemed to be more robust with Floridians in the lifestyle. There are a TON of swingers in FL, and Tampa is not the exception - you just need to find the right avenues to find the right people. A few years ago this site lead me to my first house party with multiple couples and it was just north of Tampa, so I still check it from time to time!
Black Rings - Do Swingers really? - We have not purchased black rings, We both get approached quite frequently I guess we just put off that vibe
Swingers Rock Club - Live music, Dancing, and Sexy Friends - Well it may not be quite as bad as you think Rocker and Denim... We for one are rockers and we know many other lifestyle couples that made it to the earthday birthday concert in O-town a week or so ago along with us. Hell, there are even a few lifestyle couples that have their own bands and have held concerts together here on the space coast. So don't feel left out on a limb. "Take Hold of the Flame"... What group did that title come from? A hint: They will be at the HOB 8/25 & 8/26.
Fixious
Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - Add 2 Virgo's to the count.
Original humans as swingers? - Provocative theories based on Bonobo sexual behavior -
http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/07/27/ryan.promiscuity.normal/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KagyO9zS_ro
The above article and video put forth some interesting theories about our "first" ancestors sexuality and monogamy.
So what do you think?
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