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Divorce rates - How do we compare - We are a bit of an older couple with a different prospective. Amoung our swinging friends and aquaintances if we were to generalize it is that they are on a second marriage, have been married for 10 years or so and are very happy. Amoung our non-swinging friends they are on their first second, or third marriage and are generally unhappy. I would put the divorce rate amoung the non-swingers at more than double that of the swingers over a 10 year period.
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - Interested as well
Alternate Semi Swinging Site? - FInding the right connections - This is why we've never identified ourselves as full swap only because while we enjoy that, it's not the only level we will play at. If we meet a couple we enjoy who is only interested in girl-girl then same partner, okay by us. We love sex with each other and having others present is a turn-on. We've played same room, same partner because the other couple was new and unsure where they wanted to take it.
Just make sure you are very clear in your profile what you're looking for and communicate with others if you just happen to meet. If they're not okay with it, they're not the right people for what you're looking for.
And yes, you can identify as swingers all you want, it's not up to anyone else to determine what you are or aren't. Happy swinging.
The definition of cheating - - Interesting discussion. Certainly from a relationship standpoint the classic definition of cheating is being with someone other than your partner physically and/or emotionally. As swingers, however, we often hold ourselves above others and fall back on the lying and/or sneaking around aspect. Personally I feel that being dishonest with the person you hold most dear in this life to be the essence of cheating for me. When information is withheld you take away that person's prerogative to choose whether or not to stay in the relationship with you based on your actions outside of the relationship. There are a million ways people rationalize cheating. I find that a person's attitude towards cheating is a very good litmus test for the depth of their character. Now should we talk about cheating on a test or cheating other people out of their hard earned money? How about cheating on your taxes or at a poker game with friends? At what point DOES cheating become morally reprehensible or should it be "all's fair in love and war" and "every man (or woman) for himself"? Or as SIRNEWBY asserts, is self deception/lying/cheating really the only valid metric? Or did I misunderstand your point, SN? It would be interesting to get feedback from people (I'm sure there are plenty) who've been cheated on.
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - TPAFUNLUVNCPL2,
It's a preference thing. You are making a statement that covers how those in men in a couple feel that want to have another female to play with. That isn't always the case. There are tons of people out there that are seeking single males. You can pigeon hole everyone into what you think is acceptable. Just because you don't prefer them, doesn't mean others don't. Have an open mind and realize that we're not all here for the same reasons.
You mentioned what do single men bring. What if a guy is trying to please his wife and she wants to MFM and the idea also turns him on, to watch her being DP'd or perhaps he wants to watch or be the cuckold. There is a very diverse people with regard to ssexuality here.
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Sexy swingers closer to our age - 20-30 year old sexy swingers - Hi! We are in the same boat. 26/29 and looking for similarly aged people.
hall passes - who all does it - Thanks Eros, as you agreed with me, our game has to improve. But just because we think we're enlightened and progressive because we're swingers, some of societies stereotypes still apply. Men are still men, and women are still women. In other words, pursuit is usually up to the male. Chauvinist as that may sound, it probably is more about genetics then anything else. How many species in the animal kingdom do you see, where the female aggressively looks for a male. It's almost always the reverse.
So men, work your ass off in the gym, pay the 30 bucks for that that PDF manual on how to improve your game. (kidding of course about the last suggestion). What you may find is that it improves your own relationship with the wife or girlfriend.
One thing I noticed, when I improve myself, it only enhances my own marriage and my other relationship. That's always a plus plus in my book!!!
TALKING TO YOUR KIDS ABOUT THE LIFESTYLE? - - So, what happens when your daughter and her boyfriend show up to the same swingers party? My daughter and I simply agreed that we would play like always.
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - [quote=SPICEISNICE698][quote=LUSTINSALTLAKE]2011 Victory Red... Don't Touch or Don't Ouch...[em]Emo_25[/em] [/quote]
I didn't know you could rent hot cars out of Redbox! [/quote]
Yup! You just don't want to return it late, the late fee is about 40 grand....
911 THE REAL TRUTH - - sawit a while back and am thoroughly pissed about the entire thing you never know who to believe or trust. canada is looking better and better but didnt they outlaw swingers ?
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