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Why Be In Utah? - - Actually I've always wondered the same thing about Florida. Substitute the crazy Mormons for the Bibile thumpers from Orlando north into the panhandle, add in the hurricanes, torrential rains, gaters, snakes and mosquitos...besides, I've heard the snow skiing is HORRIBLE there. But I'll bite. 1) No porn. You can buy dirty magazines but (unless you know where to go) hard core x-rate movies are technically illegal to sell. A non-issue in the internet age. If you're still buying dvd's at the local porn emporium you need to maybe update your computer or your media server or something. 2) No real beer. Again a myth. You can only buy 4% (by volume) beer in grocery stores but you can get full strength beer at state liquor stores, restaurants and places like brewery stores. Try getting ANYTHING to drink in some dry towns/counties in the Bible Belt. 3) True to some extent, although Salt Lake City itself is VERY eclectic and quite liberal politically. But at least our LDS lawmakers know basic female anatomy and have somewhat of a grasp of proven basic science. No kooky evangelicals freaking out every time someone mentions birth control or evolution. 4) Most people are afraid of Mormons? Really? I've heard they have horns and the missionaries CAN be a little annoying when you're fucking and they're ringing the doorbell but I don't think people are truly afraid. Besides, contrary to popular belief the swing scene here is alive, active and vibrant. I'd wager that per capita we have more, and more active, swingers than just about any place you can name. All that repressed Mormon sexuality eventually bubbles to the surface and until you've fucked a formerly repressed little Mormon girl who's discovering her sexuality you, my friend, haven't fucked! :-)

How often do you think this happens - - In HIS opinion, it is a lot to do with the fact that MANY single men are WAY to agressive...Our experience has been that we have met 2 single men that were ACTUALLY swingers, the rest were simply looking for an easy piece of ass...Boy were they mistaken... Sure, there is some insecurity, but that seems to be less than I initially thought...After reading many of Don's opinions on single men, I think that a lot of others are of the same thought...ALso...there is a lot of the men saying, "If she gets some, I get some" we have actually heard men say that before...We have also had men storm off because there wife was wanted and they were not....but thats a whole other ball of wax.... The topic at hand, they were NOT totally honest with each other...He IS insecure...if he admits to a little insecurity, he is VERY insecure...think about it T4, you're a man, would you tell on yourself on television? HELL NO...No man would...Unless there was HUGE sums of money involved....

Certified Single Males Program - A new program that benefits respectable single men - I could see a little "course" on swingers ettiquete (sp?) but I think ALL men should take it...My experience has been that men with a girlfriend or wife are far more likely to break "the rules" so to say... BUT I also think in lieu of that, maybe a system where couples can "ceritfy" the single men as being genuine and real, PLUS the course, the course may be one seal, the certified as cool another.... Who knows...Something should be done to make it a little easier for them...

MERRY XMAS TO EVERYBODY - WE WOULD LIKE TO GET A GROUP TOG FOR PLEASURE PALACE DEC 18 - I JUST WANTED TO WISH EVERYBODY A MERRY XMAS !!!!!!! I WISH EVERYBODY A SAFE BUT LOTS OF FUN HOLIDAY WITH FAMILY & FRIENDS . WE ARE GOING TO TRY OUR DAMNEST TO GO TO PLEASURE PALACE TOM . NIGHT DEC. 18 . SHOULD BE A HUGE AND TONS OF FUN PARTY . CANT WAIT TO SEE EVERYBODY THERE . IF ANY OF YALL CAN STOP BY THE PALACE PLEASE SAY HI .I CANT WAIT TO SEE WHAT EVERYBODY IS WEARING . FROM WHAT I HEAR ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THE PARTY . U KNOW HOW IT IS THERE . ALL THE SWINGERS GROUPS THAT GO THERE TO PARTY PLEASURE PALACE STYLE . SEE EVERYBODY THERE .................. NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY WWW.SWINGERSOFAMERICA.COM

Staypineapple?!?! - - [quote=JV]I’ve stayed there, it’s nice.[/quote] Is it for swingers or just a normal hotel?

A Place In The Lifestyle - - Which club, and where? Sadly this sounds a lot like Caliente, which isn't a swingers club but does host swinger parties pretty much every Saturday night. It also sounds like Miami Velvet, which is mostly mainstream people who just want to say they are swingers and pretend. And no, I don't think most of them have any place at actual lifestyle clubs. While some do say up front they are not swingers a much larger portion will claim to be swingers so they can be seen as more of the "in crowd".

Cum One Cum All!!! - - i hope they make a bracelet for nazi swingers...red and black with a cute little swastika. comes with matching lil mustache and inherent hatred for anyone not aryan. and just a couple pages back i read something about sending the "wets" back to where they came from? i guess when you are racist you dont notice when other people are being racist. there is a guy who just started at my work. he is from Venezuela. doesnt speak a lot of english. i know enough spanish to direct him but it frustrates me. ive worked with people from vera cruz, mexico who refuse to learn english or speak it. ive worked with bosnians who dont speak very much english...tibetans..muslims arabs...israelis and palestinians...and a turkish guy who GREW UP HERE and still doesnt speak much english. i do agree that they should put some effort into learning the language of the country they are living in...just like if i went to their country i would be required to learn their language...they aint gonna change for me...although i do make an effort to learn a couple phrases in their language for fun. thats pretty much all that bugs me about immigrants in this country...the language barrier. gives you a reason to get to know them...maybe if you heard their stories you would understand why they are here. one of the bosnians i worked with was royalty in her country...maids..their equivalent of millions of dollars...but in the war, their houses were demolished or used for army personnel. so they came to our country and now work as maids and cooks in hospitals. in their country they dont work...the guys work, and the women cook and clean..so coming here is hell for them..but they are here..they have no choice. you want to send them back to their country? their bullet ridden houses and swimming pools full of corpses..? i couldnt live with myself sending someone back to that hell.

KEY PARTY - - We 'get' and actually applaud the effort to find some way to avoid the often typical cliquey swing party but still have to wonder how feasible it might be in practice. The problem, as we see it, is that swinging is an atypical social construct in that it is driven almost entirely by superficial factors such as relative attractiveness (age, height, weight, body type, breast size, cock size, and any number of other physical characteristics). When we first started swinging, back around the time Cleopatra was busy inventing hookup culture and the term unicorn, we quickly discovered that swinging wasn't the sexual egalitarian utopia that many people believe it should be. Indeed, there was actually a broad, distinct caste system, if you will, that governed who hooked up with who and who was relegated to the sidelines at least in certain circles or situations. This might be best illustrated by one of our very early encounters with two couples at a swinger meet and greet back east. One of the couples was loudly expounding on their utter disgust with the concept that people in the lifestyle seem to be so "stuck-up" (their term) and were too concerned about "looks" and other superficial characteristics. They went on and on for probably close to an hour before they, I guess, ran out of steam and decided to leave. After they were gone, the other couple at the table laughed a little bit and gave us some fairly sage advice. They told us that we would likely meet three general kinds of swingers in the lifestyle. They said that the first couple was the "Hey, you're swingers and we're swingers so let's fuck!" kind of people and that on the opposite end of the spectrum were the extremely picky, "beautiful people" who spent more time "watching the door" at a swing function always looking for the BBD (bigger, better, deal) and who more often than not left without actually hooking-up/playing. They said that the relatively smaller group in between those two extremes were those who had a little more realistic attitude and who were, while still giving a good amount of weight to initial physical attraction, actually looking a little more FOR reasons to play rather than for reasons NOT to play. They told us to decide for ourselves what kind of swingers we wanted to be and go from there but to never fuck someone that we really didn't want to fuck. *shrug* As to your idea of making it more of a "speed swinging" type of party, I'm almost certain that there are at least a few people here on Swingular who have talked about, if not hosted, just such a party. It might be interesting if they or any of their guests chimed in as to how it turned out.

sh*t swingers say - to preach to the choir - I laughed the whole way through......thanks for sharing!!!!! Are you a squirter? Lmao

Know any Mormon swingers in SoCal? - Single girl in SoCal wants to know! - Yeah, no...I think she just has a garment fetish. [em]Emo_67[/em] LOL