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real members? - - CYBER SWINGERS strike again! We had the same thing happen to us although we only drove 2 hrs this cpl must have exchanged 40 messages with us over a 3 month period they were so excited to meet us in person we showed they didn't! They were supposeably traveling to Florida on vacation we called them on the cell only got a voice mail and never heard from them again! We wish people would just be HONEST when we say we willbe someplace for a meeting we are there or we call before hand to say something has come up never leave a cpl wondering. its a fact of life in this lifestyle we simply try to make the best of it like that night we sat there enjoyed a drink and watched this beautiful blond sing and play the piano then we simply drove home and laughed and said "NEXT"! We have learned to not take the lifestyle too serious its ashame some people continue to play these petty mindgames but we know its a fact in this lifestyle. Ever want to visit North Florida look us up we WILL show up.
Norm&Sharon
Disabled Swingers - - Thank you for the pointers CountryBumpins. I will certainly add more to our profiles. Your conditions do not sound at all trivial. In fact FMS combined with Peripheral Neuropathy, Diabetic Neuropathy and Sciatica are why I am in the wheelchair. Like you the last thing I want to do is sound like I am whining. After all we are here to have fun not bitch ;)
Jeff
We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - It's unfortunate that you've had this happen to you, and apparently twice with the same couple, no less?
While unfortunate, it's also par for the course. Perhaps one of the most cliche and over-used phrases we see appear on profiles is "drama free", and we always take that with a grain of salt.
The truth is there is no such thing as 100% drama or issue-free couples.
Even if they insist on their drama-free status, we also realize that we are all human, and these things are bound to happen from time to time.
The key is not to find the ideal couple but to find the couple that deals with life (swinging) ideally. Find couples that are efficient and adept at dealing with issues between themselves, and are not so selfish to let things get as far as the bedroom before unresolved issues they have in regards to swinging arise during play.
We've had a few situations like that...and they've always been deal-breakers for us. We simply don't have fun if we have to work that hard at making something happen.
However, as a consequence, we've become very successful at filtering and weeding out those couples from the get-go. It's really not that challenging, because there is so much that you can read from people simply by observing them, their body language, how they interact with each other, how they compose themselves while you talk about a potential play dates with you, etc.
Even if they're not inclined to be verbally honest up front with you two in a direct fashion, it's typically obvious in their behavior what their true expectations are.
Asking direct questions about expectations has been mentioned and is always an excellent idea. We've found little things along the way that we take for granted as being non-issues for us are actually huge issues for other couples.
Preferences for foreplay, whether or not kissing is allowed, and if so...kissing with tongue. What about oral, is that acceptable? You see, for us they are acceptable, but we must establish that they are with other couples.
We've also found that more drama tends to be centered around the males in couples (sorry fellas).
I'm not stereotyping here, but this has been our experience. We've had more than our fair share of guys that are ok with everything from girl on girl play, to my girl on him play, to both girls on him play, but once his gal plays one on one with another male besides him....oh Lord, the drama starts!
Swinging has been one of the funnest decisions we've made, cuz we've made it that way, and we elect to avoid the drama at all costs, and that keeps things light and fresh. We know for every couple or bad experience we come across, there are 10 more good ones just around the corner. :)
~J~
Circumcised or Uncircumcised?? That is the question... - - Sorry, but we didn't know that there are so many (some people would spell it meanny-like in one of the comments) stupid, uneducated and dumb swingers out there. Most of the responses we read here are just dump. Yes, dump. What is it that not circumcised (there is no uncircumsised by the way) guys are not as hygienic as circumcised??? Some people better just shut their mouthes before leaving some really none sophisticated comments about things they just don"t know about. Thank you and all the best for the next presidential election....
Ways to point out Swingers in public - - I like the black ring idea. Simple and discreet.
Willing To Earn It??? - We're willing to play...but... - You need to stick to what you believe in & what works for you. There are lots of different types of swingers out there. Some like to dive into a dark room with a bunch of naked bodies that they can't even see & go to town. Others just about want to know your whole life story & be reassured 9 different ways to Sunday before the clothes start to come off. Most are somewhere in between. The right ones for you are out there somewhere. You just need to find them. Look on the bright side. You know what you are looking for. That's a good start.
Positive Media Attention - KUTV should have read this - A lot of metaphorical ink was spilled in recent weeks about how awful the KUTV piece on swingers is/was. Thought you all might all appreciate this Op-Ed in the news magazine The Week (one of the most prestigious mainstream news mags) ... sometimes the media does portray things in a positive light. Kudos to the Portland couple for their articulate defense of the lifestyle.
http://theweek.com/articles/583977/journey-from-stayathome-mom-sexual-adventuress
FANTASY FEST! - Whos going and do you want a body painter? - I am Jeff the Body Painter from FA in so cal and I am looking for a venue at Fantasy Fest in October, in Key West. Iwould like to do a swingers event, don't like painting vanillas, so let me know. You can contact me here or at my site, and look at my work as well, jeffthebodypainter.com
Let me know!
JTBP
Mexico! Come with us!!! :) - Trying to put together a group of Swingers to go to Mexico with us! - Too bad we will miss this one, we are headed to Temptations in Cancun in late January!
Anything but Habits?! - Chill Hangouts? - Habits is a fun club, and we've tried it out a few times, but we're not really into the club scene. We like to chill, play pool, drink beer, talk and listen to rock and roll.... is there any swingers places like this? Help!!!
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