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swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - Sincitybi..... Being fat and ugly, I can tell from experience is not a problem for some of us men. I seem to have no problem with the ladies...even the very sexy young. Yes my wife is a good looking woman but that hasn't really been a plus for me.... I try to treat a lady like a lady even if she's not what some would call a lady.. Women like the journey and I try to be their tour guide... Gentle, slow, sensual and erotic.... Ugly hasn't been a handycap nor the fat thing... and since the diabetes got out of hand..... I am fat... at least 60 lbs too fat... Fat and ugly can be offset by gentle, slow, erotic, stimulating and just being a good tour guide on a nice journey..... and my wife is certainly not a mongaloid. Even my girl friends are not the most beautiful people in the world but they are beautiful people..... although one of my girlfriends face looks like a very young Drew Barrymore... I just saw "FIRESTARTER" and realized the resemblence. Besides ugly is in the eye of the beholder, isn't it? Not trying to start a controvercy just saying that fat and ugly doesn't have to be a hinderance in swinging..... and might I add age also...... The weekend of the 14th, not one not two but 3 very good looking, young women, I had never met before, were all over me. We were at the same table at a social/party/dance of one of the clubs to which we belong. Based on their reaction to my aftershave... I think that it may have had something to do withtheir reactions to me. The aftershave is something new, not one of the mass marketed big name things. I've gotten comments just on the streets and in stores.... So maybe I'm a good guide and maybe I know how to dress and what fragrence's to wear... I've also been asked to give mustache rides.... So old and ugly and fat.... so what... I'm like the energizer bunny... I just keep cumming and cumming and cumming...... :p and I have no plans of going and going and going, at least, for a while yet. Have fun and enjoy... life is too short....

Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what. I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused.. One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on. You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden.. Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement. In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that... Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... . So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them. Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination.... We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced... I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..

Why are there so many swingers from Utah? - - I think it's something in the water! lol

Go turn on Oprah - re:swingers - We were surprised that you, Wanda, weren't on the show. I bet you could have told some stories..........

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - I have been ask to perticipate in both ,yes it has ben with close friends it was wonderfull ,hope you find the right cpland in time youn will good luck. J.P

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - We are getting off of track of what this post was created for, it wasn't to make fun or the party or who is attending age limitations. it's was to see who would want to party for those who can't attend due to it being sold out.

Youngandmarried - Looking in Miami! - Hello any experienced swingers in the Miami Area? We’re first timers looking for some fun and a nice experienced couple to show us the ropes and have some fun with!

Game----- Between My legs - Between My legs - The Right Stuff BML Dudley Do Right BML Let the Right One in BML Do the Right Thing BML Wrong is Right BML The Kids are All Right BML (going too far?) MR. Right BML Up & Down BML Upside Down BML In & Out BML Planes, Trains and Automobiles BML FREE WILLY BML The Gathering BML and of course.... SWINGERS BML

Swingers Dares - Text for cards in the game - The blindfolded one is Lucky Number 13 with a twist... It just sounds really good! We've added yours too TNB. Thank you.

Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - [quote=EVILDOERS]Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world. The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for. You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies. Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck! edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em] [/quote] damn EVIL, I have read most of your responses and there are alot of smart ass comments. this however was not. This helps me and the MRS alot. thank you... BTW love the smart ass comments also..