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Swingers Party - Doesnt mean who ever is there is open to everyone elsa - Shawn: We feel you handled the situation in " high road" fashion, and certainly gain our respect for having done so. To be there to back your wife up if "no" wasn't accepted, is not only proper, but is in fact the only way swinging can matain any civilized credability. We also agree that violence is the absolute last option to chose. Going to the host of the party as was stated already is a very good idea. We have been to several really large parties that were totally open to singles, and only one time was there ever a problem. The hosts were informed, and the violater was asked to leave by a group of the men ( host included), and that was the end of it. It would be unfortunate if this one incident were to make you swear off all clubs or parties as they can be alot of fun in a totally different way than meeting a couple or a small dinner party can be ( although we certainly could understand you being skeptical about it). T and V P.S. we hereby promise no tounge for at least 10 min. after meeting...lol

Labor Day Weekend - - [quote=WITH_A_WHISPER]Oh someone told me it was basically a swing club.... Not the case? [/quote] nope. not a swing club. its not any louder/pricier than the majority of clubs. only quieter spots are typically the smaller type bars. it used to be that a ton of swingers attended regularly but its never been "bascially a swingers club".

Swingular still active/ legit? - Looking for couples or singles - [quote=massageBBCguy][quote=MEOWMIX10000]This site is overrun with Single Males whos sole purpose in life seems to be posting Dick Pics. Actual Swingers are few and far between here. I would wait and see how the site update is before paying money. [/quote]AWM. lol 😂 [/quote] what?

Ways to point out Swingers in public - - How about an item most of us have, swingers or not, but then wear it very differently! No mater if a person is a swinger or not most of us have a wrist watch and when we wear it it's on the left wrist and face on the out side yes a lot of people don't bother to wear it anymore they just look at their phone, so not only wear it, but put it on the right wrist and face on the inside of the wrist, if someone calls you on it and either you don't fancy them or think they are vanilla just having a dig at you, then all you have to say is "Really, swingers wear their watch like this!" and say thanks as you are taking it off and moving it back to the other side! Latter you can move it back again. Maybe not always wear it like this but when you are going to known or supposed Swinger hang out place, Bar's Etc would be a good way all "Wave a Flag" so to speak. Just a thought

Single Men Meeting Couples - Are Single Men Treated Un Fairly In The Lifestyle - In an earlier response someone wrote: ______________________________________________________________________________ *** Short & Sweet: In our opinion, we don't view single men in the swinging lifestyle as swingers - more like single men wanting to have easy sex (most of them anyway) with someone else's wife. They bring nothing to the "table" that another man "within a couple" could bring. *** ______________________________________________________________________________ What anyone brings to the table in the lifestlye is highly subjective; it would greatly depend on what you were looking for in the first place wouldnt it? While we have met quite a few single men who were lying assholes, we have also met as many who were complete gentleman who earned our respect and trust. As for having "easy" sex with someone else's wife...well, it shouldnt be all that easy should it? That is, unless we as couples are as indiscriminate as the single men are about with whom we have sexual relations. What is the proverbial "table" anyway? What you bring to the "table" is YOU, or yourselves if you are a couple. What you have to offer can only be valued by those who would recognize and appreciate your contribution. It isn't a swap meet. (My wife for your wife.) That is a classic misconception about who we are and what we do as lifestylers. During the "key " parties of the 70's this was the general attitude, but those days are gone. We are a much more sophisticated breed now, who have exprienced a sexual evolution unlike anything our parents could have imagined, thanks to the addition of the internet and sites like this one. There are GAY swinging couples comprised of 2 MEN. We have no desire to date them, but we do not disagree with their right to participate....Are they swingers? Absolutely! Why not? They seek what we do for all of the same reasons. Who are we to determine their place, or value in the lifestyle? A lot of couples take a very narrow view on this subject, which to me is very sad. I am here to tell you that the word "swinger" is absolutely NOT synonymous with the phrase "wife swapper". That archaic, stupid phrase only hurts us as lifestylers, and is not truly representative of who we are, and what we do. "Threesome" does not ONLY imply 2 women and a man. We come in all flavors, with varying desires and fantasies to fullfill. Many times (and we have seen this too many times to count in the last 13 years swinging) it is the MAN of the COUPLE who is too insecure to allow HIS wife to be with another man, 3some or couple! So they only date single women... or attempt to atleast. LoL. I am not saying that this is true for everyone. But I have seen it too many times to count. The hypocrisy is staggering. Everyone makes choices, and we are all free to make them. We do not judge those who choose to only date couples. YES, there are single male assholes in the world. The fact that they are single does NOT make them a health risk. Swinging COUPLES have far more sex than ANY of the single men I know! Most of the COUPLES we know have done things in the clubs that these poor guys can only jerk off too in their dreams, with far far more regularity. A well dressed, well mannered, MATURE, professional male who is not cheating on his spouse, looking to attempt cause trouble in someone's marriage, and wants to have a great time with an honest couple is out there. We have met scores of them! Police officers, doctors, lawyers, business professionals....you cant sell me that they are all midnight "corner store" Johns looking for a cheap sexual fix with any pussy that comes along. Geesh, guys have standards too. I have FAR MORE sex than ANY single man I know! And so do the rest of you couples! Unless ofcourse they are college kids, and then....come on! What wild and crazy college aged 22 year old man ISNT looking for pussy in bars and strip clubs? Is THAT who you would swing with anyway? If there were as many single women swinging as single men, there would be quite a few single WOMEN assholes out there too. We live right next to The University of Maryland, so I employ some of the biggest hookers I have seen anywhere, anytime. I say, pick through the weeds, be selective about with whom you have sex (shouldn't we anyway?), and let the chips fall where they may. Thats what the lifestyle is all about. Just my $1.25... Luvbugs! (mR.) ;)

Thailand swingers - Any suggestions for swinging in Thailand - We are going on vacation to Thailand in November and we are wondering anyone knows what happening there for swingers. Not interested in another girl or guy but couples that might meet at a swingers club or even someone who is a resident. Not really looking for someone in the sex trade. Anyone have any suggestions...thanks

can we swing and still not be in sin ? - - For what it's worth here is my 2 cents on the subject. I agree with Don on what he said earlier in this thread. The entire concept of sin was created by the religious leaders as a form of control. Every organized religion serves 3 primary purposes; 1) to explain the why's and how's of creation, 2) to give a foundation of how to live, 3) to give comfort about death. From the beginning of time religious leaders have used the power of religion as a means of controlling the masses to do what the leaders wanted or at least thought was best. Judao-Christian and Islamic religions went a step farther and created the concept of sin as a method of control. They created a list of commandments and declared that to violate these was to be in sin. Some sins were of greater import than others but it all equalled to the same thing, commit too many or even one of the wrong ones and you would be barred from from enjoyment and peace offered in the afterlife. So to answer the original question here, Can you swing and not be in Sin? Absolutely you can. Sin cannot exist seperate of heavily regulated and controlled organized religion. Since Religion itself is a fabrication of man, then so Sin is also a fabrication. I don't know too many swingers that particularly care for anyone else telling them what to do, how to do it, or whom they can do it with, regardless of the area of their life. Especially when it comes to their sex life.

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - This sounds like a good group to be a part of. We are interested.

Swinging/Polyamory - I just wanted to hear other people thoughs on this....... - We think the problem is that people see the equation "sex = love". IOW, if I have sex with you, I must love you. Therefore polyamory and swinging are the same. After all, if I don't love you, I won't be having sex with you. The way I see it, swinging is like a game of golf or tennis. I might play a game with you but I don't love you. Similarly, I might have sex with you but I don't love you. Poly, IMO, is basically having a relationship with that other person and sex is involved on some level. Kinda like "I'm in love with you and oh, BTW, lets make love" The way we see it, swinging is about exchanging sexual partners for recreation sex. In an orgy situation at a party, you can have sex with that person with zero words exchanged. In a poly relationship, there is a real connection going on besides just sex. Sex becomes incidental just like it is with married couples. With swinging, there is no emotional attachment. Is that a good thing? Well, it depends. We need to understand the very simple nature of things. We do this to avoid that. That is human nature. Many swingers DON'T want emotional attachments and avoid them because of the complications they cause in the first one. Are there benefits to the attachments? You bet. Is there a price to pay for that benefit? But of course. Is it worth it to you? That depends on your viewpoint. In our life as a couple, the problems poly cause BASED ON OUR OPINION (your's may vary and no right and wrong here) do not outweigh the payoff. IOW, we don't think the benefits of a poly relationship are worth the problems it creates based on our opinion. YMMV

Swingers clubs are the new singles hangout? - - seems strange that singles would go to a swing club to find a lifetime mate :) But, at the same time, we have heard of alot of single straight men and women going to bi-bars, or gay bars. Maybe it's all just that Curiosity thing you know? They may be going to see what it is like at one. What do you think?