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green door/red rooster - - We live in Las Vegas and have yet to go to any of them :( The main reason being that we use public transportation and only the Green Door is accessible by bus. The nice thing about the Green Door though is that they do free tours. The URL for them is [url=http://s94865.gridserver.com/]http://s94865.gridserver.com/[/url] There are also 4 or 5 other swingers clubs in the same block of the Green Door. Here are the other URLs: Red Rooster - [url=http://www.vegasredrooster.com/]http://www.vegasredrooster.com/[/url] Couples Oasis - [url=http://www.couplesoasis.com/]http://www.couplesoasis.com/[/url] If you want feel free to e-mail us for more info. S&J

Frustration with Friend Requests - - [quote=EVILDOERS]The underlying problem is the "we're swingers, you're swingers" mindset. We've been around the scene for a long time and met many many people who don't understand why we won't just fuck them...afterall, they're swingers and we're swingers...so let's just fuck already. This "hobby" is for fantasy fulfillment. If you aren't at least a little bit attracted to someone for any reason then what the hell is the point of fucking them? Especially when most of us can stay home and have WAY better sex with someone we love. [/quote] Well fucking said!

Now that you're one of them there fancy swingers... - - See, that's what I'm talking about. KITTY wants chocolate raspberry truffle cheesecake when most guys are day old glazed donuts at best. Obviously she's been ruined by a steady diet of hot sexy swinger guys who know tricks that would make Jenna Jameson blush. By the time she's been in the lifestyle a couple of decades the only thing that will be able to get her off is a Hitachi with a jackhammer motor inside of it.

Policing Ourselves - Can it be done? - policing should be easy the same rules(laws) apply just because my wife and I have decided to have sex with other peopole does not mean we are open game for any thing to go on.if a person recives an unwanted grope the person groping is still guilty of sexual battery,and if i am not mistaken a felony in most if not all states.ask first,no is no.oh by the way i volonteer to be the swingers policeman. Phil

Help us out.. Take this Survey - For Utah Swingers - [quote=TIFFND]Appreciate what you are trying to do...it is admirable. Just finished the survey. I did leave it in the comments section, but will include our opinion here, as well. And we are NOT trying to flame anyone's efforts. Just putting our thoughts in. For us..the single most turn off of any event is limiting who may attend. Excluding the old or young ones, or the heavier ones, or..etc....you get it. We all have our preferences for play partners, but believe it or not, We are both a bit curvier, and me a bit older, but we still have younger, AND thinner friends who seem to enjoy our company both in, and out of the playroom. As we enjoy theirs. I must qualify this a bit, tho, in saying that what we have encountered in the events we have hosted. We have found that although some folks do enjoy the company of the single guys, attendance is often severely limited if you include too many single males without dates. Sorry guys..just the way it is. And..perhaps, as much as we disagree, it is the same. Just as with the single guys, too many of us, as an older/heavier couple may do the same in limiting the folks you are really trying to target. No butt hurt intended for anyone, as I said...just our two cents! There I said it so you don't have to...LOL[/quote] Hear, hear! But one disagreement, sort of. Or maybe it's just a more specific comment about the topic. While I can't argue with limiting single men, simply because of numbers if there was no limit many things would have a population of maybe as much as 75% single guys, and neither they or many of the other attendees would have a great chance of hooking up. But I don't think they should be strictly forbidden. If nothing else, because of my wife's night time working schedules, I often end up being one of those single guys, and I nearly ended up sitting home alone for both last Christmas and last New Years Eves. And it's a special aggravation when looking at the RSVPs for some "no single men" party or event that is happening on a night when my wife has to work, and I see in those RSVPs some lady who I know would be VERY happy to see me there. A better policy, I think would be to limit the number of single men on a sort of sliding scale. State in the event or party description, for instance, that single men can request to come, and will be kept on a list. Then, at some specific date before the party/event, the hosts will look at how many couples and/or single women are coming, and decide on allowing some appropriate number of single guys, who will be selected from that list based on first signed up, first invited. I also have a problem with selecting attendees based on some of the standard criteria, such as age and even weight. Like with the "no single men" thing, I do have a personal interest here. Even though I do just fine at parties/events, if the hosts were screening for age I'd probably never get in the door. Hell, I'm finally 65 now, and am all too aware of all the assumptions many people make about anyone that old. And I imagine that if they got past the age and looked at our profile pics, they'd probably be certain that my pics are like 20 years old, if not older. (Actually, I admit that one of them IS a bit over a year old now.) And if they notice that my wife's 24 years younger, they probably figure she must have been either crazy or desperate. And I've met some ladies in their early to mid 20s who are just as much fun to be with, and I don't mean just physically, as those in, say, their late 30s or older. So yeah, I have a big problem with eliminating prospective attendees based on what age group they're in. OK, you probably wouldn't want to end up with something like 85% people from 20 to 35 and 15% over 55 (or the reverse), but just plain ignoring all people in some certain age group, or level of fitness group, or whatever is, I think, just plain ridiculous. And BTW, we did do the survey. ~ Terry

Body Size - - [quote=DRAR09]So I'm unfortunately a chubby girl, but I'm working on it. Hopefully this doesn't sound shallow because eveyone has a type they're attracted to, but are most average men in the lifestyle looking for girls of a smaller body type? Are us bigger women disregarded just by a picture or headline before anyone tries to get to know us? This isn't meant to be confrontational, but does a woman's personality matter more or less than her body?[/quote] It depends on the man, of course. Some men do value personality over body type and some definitely value body type over personality. It's the same for women too. In fact, on average, we've met more women who are extremely picky about body type, etc. than men. And body type isn't the only thing that can be a deal breaker for people. Age is also a line in the sand for many swingers. For others, things like smoking or drug use can be big factors in choosing play partners. And there are MANY quite minor factors that people use to weed out people they may not want to play with. I think it's probably because swinging is more or less a fantasy activity and people are looking for a certain type that hits most or at least some of their checkmarks for a fantasy partner.Those may be body type, hair color, ethnicity, age, or one of many other criteria. The really interesting part, to me, is how people are often FAR more forgiving of certain physical characteristics in their own partner than they are in someone they want to have sex with. Yet they often get upset when other people also have that same attitude. I do think, though, that people kind of get in their own way a little bit and in their search for the perfect swing playmate often overlook someone who is on many levels a good or even great match but not a perfect one. I think they're probably missing out on a lot of fun and a lot of good sex.

House Parties - Questions about attending house parties - I guess I am confused by this.. Since when was swinging illegal..? Wouldn't it be the hosts problem if the neighbors were nosy..? They should know their neighborhood and take the appropriate steps. Our neighbors all know, the reason they were nosy is because they wanted to come over, They were just swingers in denial. We are currently moving and looking forward to breaking in some new neighbors..:)

Skittles2469fun - Newbies - Welcome newbies. Like you, we were together more than a decade before we got into the lifestyle. We actually talked, fantasized and researched it for almost 2 years before taking the leap. One site we used that had great info is Swingers Board. We've loved it ever since. The main thing you need to do is be on the same page about what you want, what your rules and boundaries are and have fun. Go to parties. Browse profiles and contact those who interest you. Set no expectations for dates, we've found it usually doesn't go how you think it will (good and bad). Avoid anyone you get a sense of drama from. One thing we did from the beginning and do still to this day. After every party, club visit or date, we'd talk about it. What we liked, didn't like, etc. Did we mention have FUN!!!!!! Also, don't take rejection personally. It happens to pretty much everyone. Oh yeah, HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Creating an Amazing Swingers Profile - How to market yourself better - [b]Creating a Great Swingular Profile[/b] This was being discussed in another thread, but I'm going to share some thoughts as someone who has now experimented with a LOT of different photo and profile combinations to see what gets the best response. I also have some experience and expertise in Internet marketing and sales that has applied itself well to the swinger world. =) Our profile and photos are by no means perfect. I can think of at least a dozen things I want to adjust, add, or change. It's a process. The first thing we need to accept is that our profiles are a marketing tool. We are trying to stand out from the crowd and show others why we are unique. Investing time in your profile will have big returns. The second thing we need to accept is that looks really do matter. A lot. Don't lie about your looks, don't mis-represent your looks. Be proud of what you look like.. you'll find that the quality of the experiences you have goes WAY up. ----------- [b](1) Your Account Status should be PAID and VIP. [/b] Anyone not willing to invest a couple of bucks to be a paid member of this site is not a swinger. Period. (If you see a profile from anyone who is not a paid member.. SKIP IT). You should also attend one of the major events in order to get a "VIP" label (verified in person). It's proof you're a real couple who's really interested in swinging. (And, again, anyone without this label should be treated with extreme caution). ------------ [b](2) Your PUBLIC photos NEED to show what you look like. [/b] This doesn't mean you need to show your faces on your public photos. But you DO need to give others a sense for what your body type is. If people see a poorly lit shot of just an ass, the first assumption is that you are hideous and your giant, dim ass is literally your best feature. While there are a few couples on here for whom that is probably true, the odds are you can do much better. If you're short and chubby, that's fine.. Other people should know that!! You may quickly discover that other short and chubby people are excited to find someone with a similar body type they can hook up with! (Rule #1 of swinging: People generally prefer to hook up with other people who are of similar age, and similar body type..... ) Your public profile photos are the very first thing other people are going to see. (Trust me, they don't read your profile until AFTER they've seen your photos). Put on some nice clothes and take the best neck-down shots you can manage! Avoid photos from the Halloween party. People are trying to figure out what you look like -- not what you look like when you're wearing a disguise. If you post photos that are a mis-representation of what you look like in ANY way, people are going to hate you the instant they meet you -- before you've even had a chance to speak. If your strategy is to lie about your looks (by posting old or misleading photos), hoping that you'll make up for it in the personality department, you're still a liar... and you can go fuck yourself for wasting everyone's time. To that end: - Don't post any photos of you that are more than a year old. - Don't post any photos of you that are off by more than 20-lbs. (If you got fat since you took that photo, DELETE IT). - Don't post any photos that zoom in on just one part of your body. (you can still show your body, in general, without showing your face). - There's nothing wrong with a fully-clothed photo if you think it helps make you look better. [color="red"]Please do not fuck anyone who doesn't follow these rules. Even (especially) if you are married to that person.[/color] ------------ [b](3) Your profile should be well thought out and well written [/b] Nobody is going to read your profile until after they've looked at your photos. So if you haven't taken care of #1 and #2 above, don't bother with the profile. First and formost, run it through a spell-checker and a grammar checker. Seriously. If you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're", you might as well have world's smelliest vagina, because you are nasty and gross. Second, your profile should CAREFULLY describe the kind of people you're trying to meet. Bad: "We want to meet people of similar mindset." Good: "We're trying to find people who are well-groomed and open to full-swap. We don't mind people who have sex on a first-date, but we really like to spend a few hours together first to get to know one another." See the difference? The second example provided REAL information and REAL insight into what you're after. The first is a complete waste of the internet. If you provide information about your hobbies, be specific. It'll help you stand out more, and may even give you some things to talk about on your first date. Instead of saying you like "Football", say who your favorite teams are. Instead of saying you like "camping", mention WHERE you like to go camping. Instead of saying you like to eat out, mention some of your favorite restaurants and why.. All of these things will help your personality show through, and make you stand out. Your profile should mention your experience level in some amount of detail. How long have you been swinging? Why do you do it? What are you hoping to find? What's your dream-date? All of these things will help other couples feel more comfortable about reaching out to you. Spend some REAL time on your profile. It may take you several hours, or even several nights of work to get it right. It should be confident, it should describe things that make you unique, and it should be INTERESTING. Also, keep your profile up to date. There's nothing worse than seeing someone who's profile says "We are new to this", only to see that it was last updated 6 years ago. Anyone who hasn't taken the time to fill out a profile should be equally as suspect as people in the #1 or the #2 category. If they don't have at least two full paragraphs, MOVE ALONG. They are probably just picture-collectors and/or they are not serious about swinging. They are here to waste your time. ------------ [b](4) Sorry... But your PRIVATE photos need to show your face. [/b] You already showed what your body-type is in the public photos, so no need to rehash that here. But you do need pictures of your faces in your private profile. If you're worried that swingular will get hacked and the photos will leaked... First, the photos of your face don't need to show your naughty bits.. (Deny, deny, deny!!) and second, if swingular is hacked, a leaked photo is the least of your problems. (Especially if it doesn't show your junk!) In other words, one or two simple G-rated face-picture in your private photo section is an essential part of communicating to another couple who you are and what you're all about. (The same rules above apply, however, as your public photos. They should be newer photos that show your current weight and body type). The nice thing about putting them only in your private section is that you can screen who gets to see them. You should not accept every friend request that comes across your desk. If the person sending you a friend request hasn't taken care of #1, #2, and #3 above, IGNORE THE REQUEST! THEY ARE A WASTE OF TIME.. they are most likely picture-collectors, and not actual swingers. If they HAVE taken care of #1, #2, and #3 above, then there's a reasonable chance they're for real, and you can trust them to have a peek at your faces. One more (controversial) comment.. My experience is that people who are unwilling to show their faces in their private photos are typically the kind of people who will bring other types of drama into your life. Skip them. Move on. They are not worth your time. Beware of face-pictures that are extreme close-ups.. done in poor lighting.. or have excessive makeup. These people are hiding something from you. If you 'friend' someone and open their private photos to realize that you still have NO idea what they look like.. RUN!!!!!!!! [b](5) Seriously... stop posting so many pictures of your junk. [/b] The close-up pictures of the pussies and the cocks are super gross. (And let's face it.. if our goal is to make someone LIKE us, posting close-up pics of our plumbing is UNLIKELY to make that happen). Nobody has EVER said "Man, I'd really like to contact this couple.. but I would feel a lot more comfortable doing so if I could examine his cock / her pussy in extreme detail first." Seriously.. it's just gross. ------ [b]If you found this information helpful, you can thank us by buying us drinks, and maybe even showing us extreme close-ups of your genitalia!! (In person.. not photos). [/b]

We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - I don't kiss and tell but I am so angry.....this was the second time we played. I should have known but they said they were quiet and we just assumed they needed to get to know us and open up. They sure talked a lot pre 2nd playtime how fun it was gonna be etc. The guy asked the girl to leave in the middle of it without any explanation!!! Our intention of this post is only to avoid this in the future. We are really a fun couple and are very disappointed. We look forward to more mature, secure couples to get to know. Obvousily they weren't ready or on the same page. We really want all the couples that we play with to be 110% comfortable and both parties are into the situation and want to play.