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LDS Survey Results - - Believe what you want to believe, but how can you judge anyone else for their actions or beliefs? So what? you don't agree... no need to get nasty or judgemental of others who believe differently than you do. I venture that since you were once a practicing Mormon, you feel the need to be as judgemental as you deem others in the religion are. Quite sad that you must have had some bad experience with someone who was active LDS which put a bad taste in your mouth. People aren't perfect. Nobody is. One must strive for their best and make their own decisions as to how to live their life. If that means I go to church and serve in callings, I'm not being two faced. I am exactly the same person at church as I am with my friends, both swinger and non-swinger. Do people bring their sex toys to church to use in sacrament meeting? No. Well, they must be two-faced too. Who I am as a core human being is not defined by us having extracurricular bedroom activities. There is no lying or deceitfulness. You may think it's wrong, but my husband and I (and several other LDS swingers we know) are comfortable with our choice to play and can still be decent moral people. I don't wish to argue, just wanted to voice that I don't feel ANYBODY has the right to judge.

Friend collectors or swingers - - I would like to meet up with a couple, I want try the swinging lifestyle with my wife, but I need someone to reach out to me first, so I can introduce it to the wife. She would be down, but it would have to be an exmo related connection. I'd like to try and set it up for her and I.

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Open Topic - Seduced a \"vanilla\" person last night... - **It seems that many \"vanilla\" people aren\'t as vanilla as they would seem when given an opportunity to be with a hot couple. lol ** Aint it the truth! I think that most single men are complete closet swingers anyway. I dont even think the term \"swinger\" should really apply. It is more like that big red button on those staples commercials...push it and instant Git Er Done! gratification! I can not think of one single, horny male that would pass on the opportunity if it was presented. Luvbugs! :h

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Swinging and the Mormon Church - - Well the natural man is an enemy to God... so honestly I agree with the whole double life thing, people are who they are, put on a facade to the majority. With Organized religion there is always a level of hypocrisy. Be discrete and let people be who they want to be. Whether you're Atheist, apart of Scientology , Lds, Catholic or most anything in society other than our awesome little group of swingers, you put on a face with everyone and let go here, so who is to say what is right or wrong? You're all on some kind of level of pervert so really there is no, "he is more of one than I." You are being promiscuous, or sleeping with a married person or being married and sexually not limited to your significant other. Sinners are everywhere, some justify their actions and are more comfortable with "letting go". Everyone's right or wrong varies and for those who decide to give in to their "wrong" all the sudden see the light and it's okay to do now, WOOPI!! I guess what I mean to say is: WHO CARES WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING WITH THEIR LIFE AND THEIR CHOICES!

UNIVERSAL "SWINGER" SIGN - UNIVERSAL "SWINGER" SIGN - Is there a Universal sign for Swingers? And if there is not, there should be! How many times have you been in a bar or out with your partner and spotted a nice looking couple and wondered???Are they??? What can you say without embarrassing yourself or them by saying, "hey are you in the lifestyle?" We did some looking and found this website http://www.swingrings.com/index.html take a look and tell your friends it would be great if it worked....AND WE ARE NO WAY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PRODUCT just like the idea so we all can quit guessing. If you know of anything tell the world.

The definition of cheating - - Interesting discussion. Certainly from a relationship standpoint the classic definition of cheating is being with someone other than your partner physically and/or emotionally. As swingers, however, we often hold ourselves above others and fall back on the lying and/or sneaking around aspect. Personally I feel that being dishonest with the person you hold most dear in this life to be the essence of cheating for me. When information is withheld you take away that person's prerogative to choose whether or not to stay in the relationship with you based on your actions outside of the relationship. There are a million ways people rationalize cheating. I find that a person's attitude towards cheating is a very good litmus test for the depth of their character. Now should we talk about cheating on a test or cheating other people out of their hard earned money? How about cheating on your taxes or at a poker game with friends? At what point DOES cheating become morally reprehensible or should it be "all's fair in love and war" and "every man (or woman) for himself"? Or as SIRNEWBY asserts, is self deception/lying/cheating really the only valid metric? Or did I misunderstand your point, SN? It would be interesting to get feedback from people (I'm sure there are plenty) who've been cheated on.

New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - We would be interested.

Porn - - (from Terry) We have to remember that the people making porn aren't doing it for our actual personal pleasure or even our entertainment. They're in it as a business. So they want to pump out, as quickly as possible, whatever will have the largest audience. Or what they think will have the largest audience. I think that's why they do so many shots of the guy's dick pumping in and out of her pussy or her ass, so many shots of just her face and his dick while she's sucking it, of the girl's tongue in the other girl's pussy, etc. Apparently, either that's what really does it for most people or it's what they think does it for most people. I find 5 minutes of a dick pumping a pussy, or of the other kinds of things I mentioned, boring. Yeah, I do want to see the actual "sex", but I also want to see the people, not just the parts of them that are involved directly in whatever sex act it is. I want to see how they feel, how they react to each other. And I want to see what led up to the sex act, how they got there, and not one of the ridiculously phony scenarios that most porn vids use. But we also have to remember that we're a minority. Even with all the diversity among swingers, we do have one thing in common, which is a different overall attitude towards sex than that which those living in the vanilla world have. If that weren't the case, we .wouldn't be here. There wouldn't even be a lifestyle, because it would be what everybody did. So it isn