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Here's something Ive been curious about - - I think over the years we've pretty much seen and heard it all in regards to this subject and who is and isn't a "real" swinger. It kind of all boils down to semantics, doesn't it? Is it really that important to label it and each other? If swinging is a more of a mindset then yes, singles (male and female) are swingers too. I think, perhaps, that what some of the couples might be trying to get at (inelegantly IMO) is that in many ways perhaps singles don't really have as much invested in the process as couples do. As a swinging couple (remember it used to be called "wife swapping") you are in effect opening your relationship to some very real risk. If you don't think that's the case you either are in denial or haven't been around the scene that long. Singles simply aren't running the same risk although it could be argued they do have some risks, especially single females who at very least have some safety issues going into sometimes unknown situations alone. I guess you could argue single males also have a few risks as well. Also, of course, there is the whole argument of singles "not bringing anything to the table". An oft quoted argument to denote they don't have a partner to "swap". True enough in some regards but not entirely true in that they bring themselves and variety to the table for those couples not looking for a couples swap or who want to fulfill other fantasies or who have difficulty finding a fourway connection or attraction. Ultimately I think it's unnecessary for couples who don't want to play with singles (most often it's just single guys, a double standard perhaps?) to diss singles by saying they aren't swingers. And it's also probably not necessary for a few singles to complain that they aren't given an equal place at the table when they indeed do not come prepared to risk the same that couples must risk. Bottom line. Swing how you want to swing and don't swing how you don't want to swing. There's actually room for everyone even if we aren't all necessarily sitting at the same table.
Wishbones - - Is anyone else aware of this? In the Myrtle Beach, SC area people that are in the lifestyle are wearing wishbone necklaces and wishbone jewelry to distinguish themselves as people in the lifestyle. I'd like to see this phenomonon spread. The gay and lesbian communities have their symbols to distinguish themselves without having to announce to the world that they are gay/lesbian.
With most people's desire for discretion within the lifestyle, an outward symbol would not only save alot of question, but could potentially save some embarrassment as well. When people ask me what mine means, I try to answer according to how the question was asked. If someone asks me pointedly what it means I tell them "Good Luck", which is true. If someone asks me about it that has that "Does that mean what I think it means?" look, I tell them it's a swinger's symbol. LOL
The following quote is from the profile of the couple that started the wishbone thing in SC....."For as long as the swinging lifestyle has been around, there has not been a symbol to associate swingers with. Other alternative lifestyles have developed a symbol that represents them; the gay and lesbian community has the rainbow, the BDSM have their converted ying yang symbol; now the swingers have the wishbone. The wishbone represents many aspects of the swinging lifestyle. The closed end represents two halves coming together as one. For a swinger knows, it takes much trust and compromise to make the lifestyle work. The open end represents the open-mindedness and open sexuality of the lifestyle. And, let's face it, the entire wishbone reminds us that we live a lifestyle that many people only wish for. To the ordinary person, the wishbone is just a typical piece of jewelry. But, to those in the lifestyle, the wishbone identifies you as someone in the lifestyle."
In this area, people are fairly familiar with the wishbone as a lifestyle symbol and we can immediately identify couples or singles within the lifestyle. My primary profile pic shows me wearing my wishbone necklace. I'd like to see this symbol adopted as a standard for all people within the lifestyle...Any thoughts?
What is up with Utah?! - Swingers in Utah and nowhere else? - We have never had friends that are more caring, sexy, and fun, than the ones we have made here in Utah.. Theres no place better!
~D&T~
Meeting new swingers? - Where to meet them? - We have met most via the web. The first couples we met were at a club but since then is all the web.. We have also noticed that a lot of local couples say they want to meet but when presented with a genuine couple that is local (same town or next one over) we try to meet and then get the
Mon chalet - Swingers motel - where is it?
Non - Mormon Social Group - Get Togethers And Travel - We're interested in a social group. We're not hardcore swingers but are interested in socializing with like minded people
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - Don Juan ,........My quote once again from Ronald Reagan " It's not that Democrats are ignorrant , It's just that they think they know so much that just isn't so " . I believe this was more directed towards the far left liberal such as yourself !
Poor was the right choice of words in describing those who support families on a military income . The choice of words such as wankers and cheers , cheers is how you signed off on your profile and would lead one to believe you are of British decent . The use of the name Don Juan and the use of the term the mother language in a previous post would further confirm the British decent . 5ft 9" tall and 165 lbs , long face and distorted teeth , came to America and married an American girl to stay in the country before your visa ran out . You played Don Juan on her , she divorced you and you spend more time on trying to get out of child support payments than you do working . You will not admit it and say its wrong but I know better !
You see Don , there is not one person born in America that is an American that would say that an American soldier did not die for him or his right to freedom . As you call them , morons , maybe we can keep them home and send you with your brilliance to the middle east to speak the truth and be a hero . If they are not understanding towards you and your dillusions I suggest try beating them over the head with your books and touted education .
Vegas clubs - - Has anyone been to any of the swingers clubs in vegas green door or red rooster?......we've heard mixed reviews.
Or any other clubs
Or any couples going to be there the end of march that would like to meet up....
A Place to Play - I have a new hot topic to discuss - Here in Utah most AirBnB's have rules againts inviting guess and having parties, not to mention to be quite and no loud noice after 9:00 PM, so that might not be a realistic option... however we like from time to time rent a double room suite, but it only works when real swingers attend...
Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - You thinking Saturday night. We might up for it
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