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Observations from the other side of the room - Some unsolicited advice - [quote=EVILDOERS]All good advice. You should give seminars to the GAZILLIONS of single males who think female swingers are nymphomaniac, wanton sluts who will fuck anyone, any time, anywhere and that their husbands/partners are pathetic, impotent cucks who don't know how to please their partners and need a "real" man to satisfy their wives/girlfriends. You could make BANK teaching the utterly clueless how to act like a gentleman and do a service to the lifestyle by helping to weed out the twatwaffles who have no business even ATTEMPTING to enter a lifestyle they know nothing about and should leave immediately![/quote] That's a really good idea! I am no authority but I agree that Utah guys have a bad reputation. I have heard similar stories from friends on vanilla dating sites where the guy just wants a one night stand. I am glad that my post was read and responded to. I agree that my comments are common sense as well. Unfortunately, common sense isn't all that common. Any suggestions on what to name my seminar?

I'd like some advice.....really, I'm serious. - - We've always gotten a chuckle while running into co-workers on this site, or we discover they are swingers. This has happened quite often, and it's remarkable what a fun common interest it is to have with someone with whom you've only had a working relationship. As for the play part, we rarely if ever approach or intimate that we'd like to play with them, and let them approach us. Swingers should not be embarrased about being in the lifestyle, and if they are...one must quetsion "why"? This is also assuming that if they prefer discretion, those with whom they associate will not let the proverbial cat out of the bag. Even though they may not be seeking single males, why can't you still maintain a friendly relationship with them; undoubtedly the chances of running into them at meet n greets, or house parties exists. You never know, they may get a good chuckle as well. Just be polite, and not approaching like the cliche, stereotyped single male expecting sexual favors from them. Good luck! ~J~

Swingular Sucks? No Sexies to Hang With? - REALLY? Ya Gotta Be Kiddin' Me! - [quote=JBVIPER1][quote=PALS4FUN][quote=BUZZY]If you see us on Saturday do say hi we don't bite. At least that is our story. [/quote]Damn, no biting? And I really like my nipples to be ... ummm ... ahhh .... yeah, OK, No biting then! [em]Emo_49[/em] [quote=JBVIPER1]This site should be called Utah Swingers Only.[/quote] Hey, we can't help it if we're a fun bunch up here in Utah! There's lots of stuff happening in Vegas too! (and Florida? although I know that's no consolation for you AZ folks!) [quote=STARSHELL1212]That's why I joined this site. Last site I checked out was a graveyard. I was a bit shocked when I saw all the parties and people around here in UT. So I agree with Pals, I think there is lots of things to do. We got pretty lucky and got contacted by a great couple, and they've been extremely nice about letting us slowly ease in the LS. We have enjoyed time with them, and hope to check out a few of these meet and greets, etc, after the holidays. Hopefully we can run into some other couples that are as down to Earth as the two we've met with. My wife and I are still pretty new, but it's been fun so far. [/quote] It's good to find the right couple to start with! And there really is lots to do, and lots of people to meet. That's really been the biggest difficulty for us -- with family constraints it's difficult to find the time to have all the fun we'd like to have! ;)[/quote] What I have actually received from the Utah members is the rude, attacking tear you down comments. Not what we in Arizona consider a "FUN BUNCH"[/quote] Well you are very lucky you live in AZ, so you don't have to deal with us rude Utah assholes, you are very blessed!

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - I'm a FORD guy!

Sturgis 2014 - The wife and I are wanting to know where the swingers play @ Sturgis - Been to Sturgis three times all three times stayed at the Chip. It was a blast non stop partying. Lots of sexy people and you make of it what you want out of it. The thing we like about the Chip is the concert line up. Big bands included with the cost of the camping for the week. A few restrictions but not many. Don't know if they have concerts at Glenco but we wouldn't mind checking it out some year. Wont make it this year it seems to run with the BBR in Idaho every year. Have fun and hope to ride with a few of you this summer. Dave and Jackie

Swingers of Color - - We're here too AND sent you an email awhile back...never got a response from you...Oh well...So maybe you just arent looking?

Is it a “preference” or is it “ discrimination” - - [quote=DANDTCURIOUS][quote=EVILDOERS]Discrimination can be against non-physical attributes as well (Political and religious are the two most obvious nowadays.) But I would call almost everything else a preference, at least as far as swinging is concerned. One of the biggest hurdles we found when we first entered the lifestyle was people who were upset that, for whatever reason, we didn't want to fuck them. Their mindset was, "We're swingers and you're swingers so what's the problem? Let's fuck!" We did, eventually, come to the realization that in some instances our first impression, based on looks or whatever, could be overcome, in time, by getting to know people better and eventually finding a different kind of attractiveness that trumped simple physical attraction. YMMV[/quote] Oh of course discrimination can be against non-physical ... my question was can a non-physical attribute be just a preference and not be discrimination .. it sounds like you think so ... other than maybe with political or religious? Hmmm so let’s say someone keenly despises Trump, or Bernie (not that anyone does lol) .... like really can’t stand them. And someone crazy hot that LOVEs Trump, like wears a red MAGA hat loves, wants to hook up ... Could the political disposition “preference” still be only a preference, and not discrimination, if it gets in the way of any possible sexual attraction ?[/quote] Holy shit! You mean it messes me up when I wear my MAGA hat in sexual situations (Though I prefer a more discriminatory MAGA hat "Make Adam God Again" The Mormon Vatican peeps will understand that one)? I thought everyone got turned on by Trump. Ask him... He will tell you. He is the best at ______. 🤣 i freaking loved your example by the way, hilarious and good point. Great example, totally got the visual! 🤣🤣🤣

Swinging with Vanillas - Any success stories? - well first off we were all Vanilla at one time. We were the other couple being introduced to swing by good friends. We knew they were swingers, not because they told us but someone else "outed" them. it was just sexy flirting and a slow build, Not "hey we are swingers lets fuck". our suggestion, because they are friends take it slow, put it out there and read how they take it. if they are good friends either way they will still be friends. As for those looking for the Unicorns we have had better luck with Vanillas than we have in the lifestyle.

Swingers of Color - - I did wonder about that as recently as 7 yrs ago. Today the number of blacks and mixed couples is doing well and increasing everyday. Hispanics are also coming more to the fore in recent years... And the statistics of only a few years ago are now defunct. More and more 45 - 60 yr olds are joining the ranks of swingers. Many are looking for simply another couple for friendship with benefits on an exclusive basis but it's still swinging.. The empty nesters and retirees are on the move. Don't sell them short either... experience is really worth something.

A Huge Thank You! - Nightshade Grand Opening - We had an AMAZING, sexy time masturbating furiously and talking about what it might have been like if we'd been there. Next time you have a party we might even drive over and sit in the parking lot and do the same thing because we're total badass swingers like that! [em]Emo_84[/em] [img]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT8YD_-YV5XwT7qkm4yjbrfl5_hE2c8L_p12hwAu0boOTUfqP4N[/img]