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Thinking of checking out UTAH - Been on this site for awhile, seems like the partys over in Utah - Well, CBUTAH, some of the best people, period, are in the lifestyle. I don't mean the lookie-lous, or people who jump in just because they think anyone on a swingers site will fuck anyone of the right sex that asks. Even though some folks seem to think there are lots of those types, and there are a number of them, they're outnumbered by the real people, the ones who are essentially honest, who are open-minded, accepting and considerate of the feelings and desires of others, and, perhaps most of all, who are intelligent and who think for themselves instead of just following the crowd in whatever direction is the most popular at the moment. Those are the people who make it a real community, not just a bunch of sex hungry whatevers. The others, who are here just for whatever sex they can get and don't give a damn for anything but their own personal pleasure, well, they usually don't get a lot of that pleasure, not over the long run, and mostly they eventually either manage to give themselves away or get tired of trying with little or no result, and then they leave. And for YOUNGCHARM, what do you mean by "check out" Utah? You're in Illinois. If you mean to check it out strictly online, I'm not sure what you'd get from it. While there are certainly people who enjoy sexting, sex chat and sex camming, I think the majority of people want to meet people in the flesh. If you're hoping to meet someone online, and then visit Utah to hook up, well, there just aren't millions of people who will make a for sure hookup commitment with someone they've never actually met. Many will do a "I like what I see, and I think we'd probably click and hook up, why don't we meet and see what happens?", but there's no actual certain commitment in those situations, and Illinois to Utah would be a pretty long trip if it turned out to be for nothing. The only other possibility I can think of would be if you came here and spent at least a couple of weeks and went to some Meet N Greets or events that were open to everyone. But many of those "open" events bar or restrict single males, and single males aren't usually terribly successful at the first few Meet N Greets they attend. The one way I can think of that it would likely work well is if you have a girl friend who'd like to swing who came to Utah with you. Then you could participate as a couple in whatever events were going on while you were here, and if you were here long enough might even get invited to some house parties, and would be pretty likely to enjoy the visit. IS that what you were thinking of? I'm discounting actually moving here, I just can't imagine anyone doing that for no reason other than to check out the local swinging community. ~ Terry

Lifestyle vacations - Best place for a lifestyle vacation? - We have only been on one. We went on the Bliss swingers cruise in March and it will be real hard to take any other type of cruise again unless we are with family. It was clean and classy. Clothing optional on the pool deck and a ton of activities. We had an absolute blast.

Family Swingular Members - OMFG and you do a search and see a close family member on the list..... - My boyfriend was checkin out who was online and came across my parents. It was both shocking and kinda expected as I knew my parents were swingers and have for quite awhile. I texted my Mother and asked if she thought sexual orientation could be genetic and needless to say we had quite the conversation after that lol.

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - [quote=Whiskey_Girl]I think there are enough interested couples we should count off to form teams. If not the group will be so big there won’t be any control over safe sex[/quote] That’s why want to chose the ones we think would be the best fit. So it is controlled. 😁

Hollywood Swingers? - - Howard Stern had talked about John Stamos and Rebecca hanging with him and his future wife Beth on occasion. He never tells the whole story, but eludes to the fact that they may have swapped partners. Sirius channel 100 for those who care.

Professionals - - Some of our best friends work in retail and construction trades. Some are "professionals." But it IS relevant to how we interract and what everyone's expectations and comfort levels are. If we were construction workers or farmers (for example), we wouldn't give a rat's ass who knew we were swingers. But our livelihoods could and would be dramatically impacted if it became common knowledge that we are swingers. This means a few things are done differently than they would be otherwise: 1. No public face pics. 2. No public names or detailed descriptions. 3. "You show us yours...we'll show you ours" policy with locals. 4. 99.9% "no locals" play policy. 5. When we do entertain locally, it must be discreet. If we go to a public place, there is no cross-couple PDA. If it were not for our status in the community as "professionals" being a matter of eating and living indoors for us, we wouldn' have ANY of these guidelines. We know couples who have met couples publicly who are NOT "professionals" who simply could not respect their boundaries and risked their reputations (thus livelihoods) with inappropriate behavior even after being asked not to. It freaking happens! And it is one of the gravest forms of disrespect/disregard for someone to do this. You think I'm gonna walk into the convenience store where your wife works and stick my tongue down her throat in front of her boss? NOT! And it's the same thing for us when couples disrespect our discretion boundaries. It could force us into bankruptcy. If you have a problem with that and think we're snobs because of it, screw you! Please don't contact us. :@ Rather than say all that in a profile, we tend to just play nice and say "we're an attractive professional couple..." ;)

Sinle female but married , hubby not interested - Husband is not interested but wife is . - I agree with the above posters. Having seen a few threads like this on here you will probably find that the majority of this community will feel the same. Even swingers can cheat because cheating is about the lie. Most swingers I have met disapprove of cheating. (although, just like with non swingers, some still fall short of this ideal) The mansion party thing is a good idea. The environment doesn't require play and lets you understand this world before you make decisions about it. Your husband may find it not so intimidating and that there isn't actually any mustard to cut after all.

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - We are in if that is what it takes to get back together with you, (UTHOTCPLEXTREME). We love the idea and hope it comes together.

WHY????? - - 1. I have seen a lot of talk here about grammar and correct spelling. How the people that don't have that down pack other's more educated would not listen to or spend the time on reading their post because it means they don't or didn't have the right schooling.... no not the right schooling but their votes sure count. 2. I've seen people calling other fellow swingers that share the same lifestyle call others redneck's, especially if they are from the South. Guess what they also vote. 3. I see a lot of talk about America being a racist country for hundreds of years, yes that is true and we all know that. Finally people have been opening their eyes to see that America is a melting pot and IF MOST of us look at our ancestry, we might have a little bit of Indian, Spanish, African, Irish, Dutch, German and so on. I know, I did it, born and raised in the small Island of Puerto Rico with a grandfather that is Dutch(his fathers side) and German(his mom's side) and a grandmother that is an Islander Indian(dad's side) and Spainard(mom side) mix. They got married in New Jersy in 1943, can you imagine the racism they went through, I can because I heard the stories out of their own mouths. All races that are US citizens also vote. 4. We are putting people down for the things mentioned above. People that have much more education that what I have or others have. One way or another isn't all of the above a form of discrimination? no am not pulling the racial or discrimination card because am spanish... I don't give a rats ass about that.... We are here posting, right or wrong, we are. Instead of the BS back and forth. I impel all the "educated ones" to post facts and where they got it from in order for the "uneducated ones" to learn the truth and choose the right candidate that is going to help AMERICA. By helping other fellow Americans, we might get the right person in office! Tequila and others do post where they got their information and I thank them for trying to shed some light to others... Thank you guys.... By the way, sorry for my grammar and spelling. Like I said before, born and raised in Puerto Rico, became a very young mother with just a high school diploma........ until now that I am going for my education. Who knows I might be your next dentist and you not even know it's me.....

single male's showing on cam - curious on what you think - RESPECT is the word we need to concentrate on here. Everyone has to respect the other person unless they do something that causes them not to deserve the respect of others, and at that point they should be told of their infraction. IF that does not seem to do any good in changing their attitude, then simply IGNORE them. Engaging in bickering and name calling just satisfies these types, and lowers you to their level. YOULUVBIGBLKDICK, this is just my observation and is not directed at you personally: A great number of s. males do not belong in the lifestyle to my opinion. I know a lot of the women, enjoy playing with them, and some that understand what swinging is all about and know their place in the lifestyle are just fine. My wife has enjoyed s.males (usually in a 3some with me), and I enjoyed seeing her pleasured. My problem is when they chat with her and push for her to play alone. They never ask this when I am present. Oh, yes and the numerous so called s.males who are actually married, and their wife does not even play. Have they even asked her? We have been told by some, they did not think they could let their mate play. Are these guys really swingers? I think not. What do they have to offer to the swinging community besides another swinging dick. We have run into some guys that don't want to provide a place to play (If they are single shouldn"t they have their own place anyway)or pay for a room. To me if they act like this they are just looking for an easy piece of ass. They are like sharks after a skool of tuna wolves amongst a flock of sheep. I agree it is a nude chat room. Anyone can get naked and show, but respect is still a must. If someone tells you that you are being offensive it may be a good idea to tone things down a little. On the other hand if you come into the room and others are enjoying what is going on and you find it offensive, you have the choice of either ignoring it or leaving the room. Just how I feel, anyway