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MSNBC Article on Swingers - actually a positive one :) - Most interesting - thanks for sharing! D

Swingers unnerve families at hotel - - Hello well we was one of the couples that was in the hotel at the crown plaza and i can honestly say these was teenage girls 11yrs old-13yrsold roaming the halls and playing on the elevator past midnight which they should have been in bed the lifestyle was assinged to the 9th floor and 10th floor so if they happen to see anything im not sure what they saw maybe cpls kissing and ladies wearing short skirts.......well it was not bad as it seem and like always the media gotta exploite everything and make it a bigger story trust me it was a very boring party not that much excitement and was only about 75 coulples not over 200 as they said!! from someone who was there and know\'s the fact!!! us.

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - I think it'd be fit that after the expose airs some poor schlub at the station holds on to the profile and finds the key to a lifetime of happiness herein, finally able to be themselves.

Single Males vs. Unicorns - this is ridiculous - This site is no different than any other swingers site. I'm afraid that you will find good and bad in all groups, be it single males, single females, or couples. There are those that give their perspective groups a bad name, but unfortunately, little can be done about it, as it can be hard to verify who is for real and what someone's intentions are, without knowing them in person. In my time in the lifestyle, I have observed...single males who were actually in relationships but looking for secret side action, single females, who seem to have a husband/bf who's looking to join...but she still lists as single, and couples who believe that simply because they bring someone along to a party...it gives them free range to do as they please. On the flip side, I have met some very nice people from all 3 groups as well. My point is...all 3 of these groups have their roles in the lifestyle, but until a foolproof way comes along of determining who's for real and who's not...we will all have to deal with the good and the bad. As others have mentioned though...if you are object to a particular group and don't want to hear anything from members of that group...block/ignore them. Just remember that you are throwing out the good along with the bad.

Here's something Ive been curious about - - You can't be a "real" swinger unless you're official. We answered an ad in the back of a Spiderman comic book, sent in a quiz and a drawing (boobs and a penis) and they told us we would be AWESOME swingers and to send them 19.95 plus P&H. Now we're card carrying swingers. If our certification ever expires we're just gonna be plain old wife swappers.

Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - [quote=WEWANTU4DREAM]good call Squeakums. Ready to try out the new Nike driver I won this month. The wife is horrible at this game so some bets could easily won with her. She gives some awesome BJ's by the way.[/quote] Well head on up then, we can play a round... (get it...I kill myself...)

Habits tonight?? - We would love to dance - How many of the people at habits on a given Saturday night are swingers? How do you know who to hit on? =)

Other Swinger sites in Utah - Anyone tell us of other sites? - Fetlife has a huge audience here, but it's not just swingers and it's not really for hookups. It happens there, but lots of people just want to connect with other kinky people.

single male's showing on cam - curious on what you think - RESPECT is the word we need to concentrate on here. Everyone has to respect the other person unless they do something that causes them not to deserve the respect of others, and at that point they should be told of their infraction. IF that does not seem to do any good in changing their attitude, then simply IGNORE them. Engaging in bickering and name calling just satisfies these types, and lowers you to their level. YOULUVBIGBLKDICK, this is just my observation and is not directed at you personally: A great number of s. males do not belong in the lifestyle to my opinion. I know a lot of the women, enjoy playing with them, and some that understand what swinging is all about and know their place in the lifestyle are just fine. My wife has enjoyed s.males (usually in a 3some with me), and I enjoyed seeing her pleasured. My problem is when they chat with her and push for her to play alone. They never ask this when I am present. Oh, yes and the numerous so called s.males who are actually married, and their wife does not even play. Have they even asked her? We have been told by some, they did not think they could let their mate play. Are these guys really swingers? I think not. What do they have to offer to the swinging community besides another swinging dick. We have run into some guys that don't want to provide a place to play (If they are single shouldn"t they have their own place anyway)or pay for a room. To me if they act like this they are just looking for an easy piece of ass. They are like sharks after a skool of tuna wolves amongst a flock of sheep. I agree it is a nude chat room. Anyone can get naked and show, but respect is still a must. If someone tells you that you are being offensive it may be a good idea to tone things down a little. On the other hand if you come into the room and others are enjoying what is going on and you find it offensive, you have the choice of either ignoring it or leaving the room. Just how I feel, anyway

Obama's Roadtrip - - [quote]Fair enough. Then why rely on them for anything that likely wasn't adequately studied?[/quote] Likely just does not do it for me...When the numbers are given AND shown how they were gathered, I tend to believe they are fairly accurate. [quote]Let's take your Pepsi/Coke example. There is likely nothing befuddling about your scenario. Just one possibility: Where are the two Florida products bottled? Maybe it's the water.[/quote] Both bottled locally, it is chalked up to being a preferance thing. In WI, lived there for a while, it was called pop or soda, unless a VERY specific thing was needed, a Mountain Dew for instance. In the south, it is a Coke no matter what it is. If someone in the south offers a Coke, it could be Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Diet Rite, Sam's Club Soda, etc. [quote]I'm glad you agree with the logic. My Bachelor's is in Social Welfare (Psych Minor). Human nature is only a bitch of a thing when you get out there a few standard deviations. The bulk of us are as predictable as rats.[/quote] Believe it or not, I have 2 BA's (econ and int. rel.) with a minor in social work. So I am very aware of social science standards and SOME believe that we're predictable. If you have a smaller sample, we are fairly predictable, especially when the sample is taken from a specific group of people (swingers for instance, better yet, swingers in a specific region), once you get to the larger populations (nationwide for instance), human behavior is not easily quantified. Try being the ONLY conservative in all the social work classes, it was fun! Then again, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. [quote]I propose that as an economist you are simply looking at things with a limited perspective. [/quote] Possibly, but I also have a rare ability to look at it from an outsider's view.... [quote]There is simply no question that if a person's basic needs (food and shelter) are met, there is less motivation to risk the consequences of violating societal rules.[/quote] I can see the logic of this, however, we are Americans, we always want MORE, we are constantly bombarded with images of MORE, we are constantly told that without MORE we are incomplete, etc. What are the consequences of violating societal rules? Food, shelter, clothing, TV, etc? Really tough there. Look at prisons in Mexico, if your family does not provide, you starve, more than likely. THAT is consequences, it is a deterrant (sp?). IMHO, one of the reasons for our increased crime rates is the lack of public punishment. If every time you turned around, you saw a group of people in black and white stripes mowing lawns, trimming trees, etc. on the side of the road in leg chains, it would cut crime considerably. If they did public executions, it would cut crime dramatically. Then again, I am a staunch supporter of heavy penalties for crimes, especially when they are repeat offenders, most of the social scientists are not. They want more rehab and such, which I also support, BUT only for first timers, not for repeat offenders. Anyway, I am thoroughly enjoying our debate... Next!