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Ever Been Roofied At A LS Party?? - - I'm posting this question on a swinger site because it was at a SWINGER party with other SWINGERS. Thankyouverymuch, Rick and Jess. So here's how it went down: We (me and husband) went to dinner with another LS couple we're very good friends with and have known a long time. While waiting at the restaurant, she and I went to the bar and got 1 glsss of wine. We watched the bartender open and pour the wine (although 1 of us had the bottom of 1 bottle before the next was opened to finish both glasses). We finished our wine while all four of us shared the same sushi. The guys didn't get sick. So we do not believe it was the sushi. We ate at 7:30 After dinner, the four of us went back to our hotel to change for the Casino Royale LS party. She and I had different drinks, but we both used the glasses in the hotel room. Our husbands used the plastic cups. She had 1 shot. I had 1 very small glass of champagne as the glass was barely bigger than a shot glass. Possibly contaminated glasses? By 10 we were at the party. I played poker, and had 1 1/2 drinks while I played for 1 1/2 hours. One was brought by my husband, the last drink was brought to me by another good friend who I've known about 2 years. My girlfriend had 1 drink made right in front of her by the bartender and that's it. Within 1/2 hour of arriving, my girlfriend was in the bathroom puking her guts out for about an hour. She almost had to be carried out. Went home and fell asleep on the floor w/o being able to move at all. She had had only 2 drinks the whole night, WITH dinner. She says she wasn't drunk at all when the sickness hit. About 45 minutes after that, I suddenly felt very ill and had to rush to the bathroom, where I evidently puked for quite a while. I recall bits and pieces of that part, but most of my memory from that portion of the night is gone. That part is suspicious to me. I recall about 10 seconds of my husband helping me out to the car, I recall 2 seconds of puking again at the hotel, and that's it. I don't remember him getting me ready for bed or anything else until morning. I awoke at 5am thinking I was having a heart attack and went to the ER. So....yes, lots and lots of puking. NO diarrhea. Some memory loss. We both doubt alcohol poisoning as neither of us were drunk when the puking hit. We both felt woozy and weak for about 2 1/2 days. It was Tuesday before I really ate again (her too.). I can't figure out WHY someone would roofie me or her as we were with our spouses. But the fact that we got so violently ill so fast, and the fact that both of us lost our memory for a couple of hours before falling asleep does make us suspicious. The symptoms are just unclear enough that it could be food poisoning, or it could be a drug. The three drugs I looked up as date rape type drugs have differing symptoms. But I can't imagine anyone giving a woman something that made her violently ill and hoping to benefit from it. That's why I thought I'd see if anyone else in the lifesyle had heard of this or had it happen. Thanks!

Cum One Cum All!!! - - WOW, As said by others earlier, this is a great way to thin out drama later on in meeting people. and who would be people we would not get along with later on. The whole issue of illegal immigration is a tough one, Our culture has created a need for cheap labor, and the x/y generation is a bunch of Lazy bastards(speaking from experience from try to hire from the Labor pool of our generation) The gesture of helping another HUMAN in need is a great one, and the people that are knocking that shame on you...shame on you... Our Culture, and society has created the Illegal immigration "problem" Our kids and WE will not pick Cucumbers for 2$ an hour, or clean a hotel room for minimum wage... WTF America, quit listening to Glen Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, Orielly, Olbermann and Maddow, and get a real educated point of view on the reality of where we are at in America today. Roque has probably contributed more to the American System than most of the American citizens his age have. We and our kids will not pick vegetables for $2 an hour, nor clean rooms for min wage......or construction for $8 an hour......so the reality of the situation is....We have created a NEED for CHEAP labor...and ILLEGAL immigration is the answer we have been using... But the Roque situation is something different...and something that happens everyday..Really people we are on a SWINGERS WEBSITE.....WTF...get off your self rightous stands, cause if you are on a SWINGERS website, most of the people that would agree with you, as soon as they learned you were swingers (soft or Full) would throw you under the bus so fast your head would spin....So really, a fellow human being is in need, if you do not want to help...DON'T... and if you do...GREAT.... But dont get on your high horse and think that if all your Glen Beck Friends found out that you were members of a Swingers Web Site...Well you know, you would be out on the street.... Really, Stand back....think about it....Someone mentioned that a Fellow human being needs help.....a productive member of society...more so that any of the Jerry springer 2009 season had to contribute...... Really People...Dont think your Bishop approves of this lifestyle....

Single male in this lifestyle.. - I have questions for couples and single females. - [quote=jv666playful]sorry Evildoers but stupid people get my goat [/quote] Look, I hear where you're coming from. But I sort of know this guy. Never actually met him, but there was some, I guess you could say, interaction through emails. And he sort of screwed something up, kind of embarrassed me with someone else, and pissed me off. For a minute. And the reason it was only for a minute (the fact that she thought it wasn't a big thing helped, I'll admit) was that he'd made an honest, but sort of clueless, mistake. And that he really wasn't aware that not doing what you say you're going to, and not letting anyone know until the very last minute when you could have let them know a lot sooner, is a much bigger thing here than it is in the vanilla world. But now he does know, and I'd be amazed if he ever did anything like that again. And my read on him is that he isn't stupid, just ignorant, a basically nice guy trying to figure out how to navigate in an unknown territory. And yeah, this is a topic that keeps coming up. But you know what? I suspect that the guys that bring it up are actually serious about the lifestyle, and that the ones who try it and find out it wasn't the "all the girls want to fuck" scene they thought it would be just shrug their shoulders and go back to the bars. I I suspect that a lot of swingers didn't get into it until they were a couple. And I also suspect that they might not realize what it's like for a single guy, if he's one that isn't just trying to find a quick and easy way to get laid. Believe it or not, not all of them are. Me, it's a case of been there, done that. Back when "free love" was all the rage, before Herpes, AIDS, or any other really serious STD, when any guy who couldn't go out on just about any Friday night and end up in bed with some girl had to be either the Hunchback of Notre Dame or a complete and total asshole,I was a single male in the lifestyle. I sure as Hell wasn't trying to find an easy way to get laid, in those days it didn't take much of an effort at all. And you'd think swinging was easier then, with sex being such a casual, no big deal, thing. But it was actually even harder and more complicated. As Evil said, it was called wife swapping, and it was a seriously bad thing as far as society was concerned. Swinger functions, like Sinful Saturdays, Risquee Soiree stuff, Meet n Greets? No way, Jose. There were only private, invite only, parties. There wasn't any internet, if someone was silly enough to try to set something like that up and advertise in the papers (the only avenue available then), no paper was going to take the ad. Everything was word of mouth, and that word pretty much only went to couples. It was actually dangerous. There were cases (not a lot, thankfully, but some) of the local police somehow finding out about a wife swapping party, raiding it, and hitting everyone there with morals charges. Which could even cost people their jobs. That was in the '70s, it did start to sort of loosen up in the '80s, which is when I left the country and the scene, but it was still more complicated than it is today, with no internet and everything word of mouth and single men by invitation only. So why did I bother, when sex was so damned easy to find everywhere? I LIKED these people, that's why. They were ignoring what everyone thought they should or shouldn't do, and were doing what they thought was right for them. Which is how I've believed, since I was maybe 15, that everyone should be. Point being, not all single males are JUST trying to get laid. So if someone comes along who takes the time and effort to ask how he can navigate what are some pretty treacherous waters, I think he deserves to be treated as if he's serious, just a little clueless, and not be ridiculed for it. Hell, even Evil, who's quicker than anyone I know to jump on utter stupidity with both feet, and ridicule the Hell out of it, gave the guy a break and some good, if blatant and not sugar coated, advice.

Nasty In The Nati Party 9/25/10 - - On September 25th Nasty In The 'Nati Interracial Parties is hosting G's Birthday Bash/Leather & Lace Party at a hotel in the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky area. If you are interested in attending you can send us a message and we will send you an invite ASAP. You can see some of the event details below. Thanks - C & G G's Birthday Bash/Leather & Lace Come join Nasty In The 'Nati Interracial Parties AT OUR NEW & IMPROVED LOCATION & see why our parties have become one of the best interracial swingers parties around, with guests from all over the country. This is a one day event, with afternoon events starting at 2:00PM on Saturday & the Saturday night party starting at 7:00PM. The party room Saturday all afternoon for people to meet & greet in & we will have a cornhole tournament for the ladies, play poker, dominoes, etc.... The party Saturday night will take place in the hotel ball room starting at 7:00PM, WE HAVE A NEW DJ!!! DJ Adam is awesome, he will be playing up to date music and taking your song requests, so get ready to dance!! There will also be connecting group hospitality rooms open both nights for party guests. Light snacks, pop, & water will be provided & Gary, The Nasty In The 'Nati Chef, will be serving food starting around 8:00. When checking in you must give your screen name and you will be given an armband that YOU MUST HAVE ON AT ALL TIMES in the main party room & the hospitality rooms. If you see anyone without an armband please let our event security or someone working the check in table know so they can be asked to leave. If you have any questions or need more information feel free to send us a message or give us a call at 513-442-9761 or 513-442-9201. Thanks C & G

A Place In The Lifestyle - - Well, It sounds more like a Utah club. We do not have swinger clubs here. Unless the club wishes to work at keeping people that are not in the lifestyle out, you may have to find another way to determine the swinging couples. Maybe the swinger wrist bands are a good idea at that club to identify others in the lifestyle. It would take some work on your part talking with those you may already know are in the lifestyle. You may not wish to wear them other places but it would solve a lot of problems for you in the club. Now the other question of who belongs is very difficult to answer. A lot of swingers do not swing very often or with very many others. So I see little difference between meeting one lifestyle or the other. As long as you are comfortable with your lifestyle, and asking another person if they are in the lifestyle, I do not see how you can lose. In Utah the chances are always slim that anyone will say yes straight away if they do not already know you. I would say that since it is a swinger club you have a greater chance than we do here at finding people in the lifestyle and you might even find some converts.

"Not interested" replies - - It is more common than one thinks... Not responding to a note/email/whatever one wants to call the message one sends from a site to the site... It\'s a bloody shame that people are so rude.. As for the kiss thing...I think people see a profile and want to show it to their SO so they earmark it with a kiss or add people to their friends list. It\'s the only tool one has to tag the couple and easily get back to that profile.. Sometimes people forget how to uses all the tools and then after a day or two they forget who you were and how to find you then another time they are looking and say Oh theres a nice couple lets send a kiss or add them to our friends list.....After a dozen sites similar I think that people may also be a bit shy too.. What do I day to Mary and Phill, he\'s a doctor and has a TV show and I thought he didn\'t like swingers.... I think I\'ll just call and save money on my car insurance ...I\'ll call Gieco... Just a thought... but people spend money to get on a site and can\'t write a note.. They may do fine face to face but to write a note ...... No way....My theory... What\'s yours? A subject for Lenord Nemoy\'s show \"Unsolved Mysteries\".... Which stretches from the inner mind to the outer extremedies.... you have entered the swinger zone.....

Clits, Dicks, Asses, and assorted body parts. - Parts are Parts. - Clits, Dicks, Asses, and assorted body parts. This is not a dig to the BPP's (Body Part Posters) because I believe you should post what you want to as long at it's within the rules set forth by the administrator. If someone doesn't like them then they should scroll on to what's behind the next door. Now that being said we are more the Playboy magazine types, not that we are Playboy material. We would look great on "John Deer" monthly or perhaps "This Old House" magazines but not Playboy. That being said we are not "Hustler" magazine people either. Never cared for their close up shots of sex organs, cum shots, and still don't. If we were interested in a couple and happed to see these type photos in a forum it would be a deal-breaker. So kids the question is: :-) Are there other up tight, former Baptist swingers in need of serious therapy? Sign up list below: (If no one signs up we are canceling this account and moving to BUTTE MONTANA.

The Vent part II - Secrecy - Hi all, me again here with another vent. As we have turned into full blown swingers, our "Vanilla" friends are becoming an issue. We usually swing out of town for two reasons, first there are very few swingers in our area, and I'm having my doubts that the ones that are here are who they say they are, and second, (as a friend once said) we are in a small town and can't "shit in our own nest." The problem is we are very fun people to be around (not bragging,) and when we go out of town our Vanilla friends want to come with us. This leads into the problem, if we take our friends out of town with us we can't find someone to play with, or we have to "out" ourselves to them which leads to SO many other issues that I don't even want to contemplate what could happen then. (Basically all of them would not be open and understanding.) So we are planning a trip to Mesquite, for all you Northerners that's like Wendover, and some of our Vanillas want to come, but we want to "hook up" while we are there, and if we don't "hook up" we could still have alot of fun with our regular friends. So do we risk putting a wedge in our friendships by making up stories and lies, or do we give up on getting some? its like a double edged sword, (we would love to have more swinger friends, but I will refer you to above statement about lack of real swingers in our area.) In many ways I would love to just announce at the next bash that we are swingers now and they should just deal with it, but we all know that's NOT a good idea. Any thoughts or ideas? I guess we just have to pick one huh? -Classy

Probably my last post - True colors are showing now - Well. I shouldn't. But we're all "getting it out of our systems" so I will. I had been having a great time in the chat room, until Wild decided to badger me and badger me and badger me about the fact that HE was REALLY single - not "married but playing with wife's permission" (as I truly am). He just kept poking at it and wouldn't let it go. How... ironic... that I am, indeed, what I said I was and the protester turns out to be not what he said he was. Hmmmm.... "Methinks he protested too much". I even mentioned his heavy-handed "monitoring" to the staff and they refused to do anything but take his side in every item. OK. So I stopped participating in the chat room - for months. Now. Big Breath. My "problem" is nothing compared to what has happened to others, so I suppose I should just count myself lucky. I *do* feel for you all, but I also will plead with you to consider that "swingers have some bad apples just like the general populace - but have mostly-good people - just like the general populace".

questions,thoughts, opinions, - Cousins, or family at parties together? - Lol so it sounds like we all need to have a swingers family reunion and instead of swapping wives we all swap, families. Lol