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Is it a “preference” or is it “ discrimination” - - [quote=VANESSA_BABY][quote=massageBBCguy]Omg.. seriously?
Ok. I am really getting tired of all this.. if you don’t then you are a racist.
Ok swingers and single.. let’s push Congress to re-amend the 1964 Civil rights act to create a new cause of action “Failure to fuck a minority” and create a federal regulation requiring members to post “I am an Equal Opportunity Swinger”..
I hope this helps. Ugh...[/quote]
I’m not saying because they are not getting fucked I get plenty fucked. I think you mis understood me.[/quote]Cause of Action is the reason for a lawsuit.. well here ——-A cause of action, in law, is a set of facts sufficient to justify a right to sue to obtain money, property, or the enforcement of a right against another part—— “Failure to fuck” doesn’t really mean you are not getting plenty of sex.. it means for example.. “Failure to hire” against a white employer.. a “failure to fuck” against white swinger. I hope that helps.
Utah - - We like the fact that as swingers in Utah we have this dirty little secret that we have and we can sneak around (not unlike a cheating spouse we imagine) behind our neighbors, family and the Church's back doing all sorts of evil deeds and loving every minute of it. We've met TONS of Mormon "refugees" like ourselves who are so happy and excited to finally have the yoke of the Church off our backs that we go quite wild and enjoy our debauchery all the more. Other areas we've lived and "swung" don't quite have the same naughty feel as though we're getting away with something quite forbidden. So yeah, a lot of living in Utah can be a compromise and some of it downright sucks but overall it's extremely fun being EXTREMELY bad here. ;-)
The Evildoers
swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - Well you know that those with birds in their heads are prone to flights of fantasy. I am glad that you have an opinion about everyone, because we do what they say about opinions. You have proven your point, not that there was ever one to start with.
Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - Being that we are in the older bracket, I would say that yes age can be a factor. It depends on the individuals involved, but many times people put upper limits on play partners and anyone over that age is a null factor. There are several women on this site over the age of 50 who may make some couples rethink their age limit or make an exception for them. Weare very active in the club scene here in NC and people know us and age doesn't seem to be much of a factor. I don't think that staying in ones own age bracket is the thing so much as the perception that older people are over the hill both in looks and performance. Just remember if you get too old to cut the mustard, you're never too old to lick the jar it came in.
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Calling someone a "nigger" is the texbook racism.
New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - Smartflirts,
There are certainly some things to look at and make sure we won't have too many problems. I think there are a number of ways to get around any issues. What happens on a private residence is up to those who own the property. I think this is one of the reasons it would have to be a private club, members only. What consenting adults choose to do isn't illegal in a venue like a club any more than it is illegal in a private residence. The trick, as I understand it, is that the venue cannot be a public venue because then you run into public exposure and indecency laws. I could be wrong, and I would have to find someone who understands these kind of laws... the question is... who would actually know... lol.
You are correct, there will certainly be some challenges, but I think they can be worked through.
As for your idea of renting a house or something like that, I have thought about the same thing and it may be a good idea. Not a fix for what is needed in a club, but it is a start.
Freyja4u,
Thank you for the ideas, we were planning on themed rooms. Perhaps you can email us with ideas for those themed rooms. What have you seen at places you have been to?
4funandmore,
Could you email us with things you liked and didn't like from clubs you have been to? What things would you like to see that you haven't seen or have seen and would like to see here?
Std and sti testing...? - - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]We have a $40.00 co-pay. If physicians are doing their job, they will ask you questions. Whereas our physicians know that we are non-monogamous we always have a non judgmental honest conversation, with our physicians about our sexual activities since our last examinations. Testing does not replace condoms, and that is especially true if you are willing to play with someone who does not get tested on a regular basis. Swinging multiplies the swingers risk. Risk prevention is a choice. We feel less comfortable playing with someone who always uses protection but never gets tested than someone who may have occasionally foregone protection but gets tested regularly so long as they have been tested since the last time they had swing sex without or really even with protection. Which leads into the next paragraph.
Sometimes people choose to form relationships involving maybe just two couples, or a small group of people that get tested on a regular basis and remain exclusive, partly so that they can play without condoms. Yes there are still risk, and you have to be really careful about who is in the group, and really who even knows about the group. Yes we have been part of a group like that in the past and it rocks! Oh well, people get new jobs and move away, or go back to monogamy, or want to play the field again and groups disband. We would do it again with the right group of people.
We count ourselves lucky that as swingers we have remained healthy. Swinging is risky. Certain types of activities add to the risk. Anything that increases the level anonymity between sex partners, or decreases any participants level of personal choice and control adds to their risk. Testing and condoms reduce the risk but they do not eliminate it. We all make our own risk verses reward choices. Testing at least lets us know that at that point in time we appear to be safe to play without putting our lovers at risk.[/quote]
Dear Delicious— thank you so much for your thoughtful reply/discussion here. There ARE a lot of factors and risks to consider while in the Lifestyle; we’re all after fun, right? Good to be thinking of ways to avoid negative consequences that would put a big damper on the fun...
On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - Another idea, probably bad:
Park City has a free bus system. During the summer at least, there are lots of places that owners and agencies want to rent out. With this economy, some of these places may even be empty during the winter.
People could park in the parking structure near downtown or even out at Newpark and take the bus over to the condo for the party. No complaints from neighbors about parking; cops would have to take pictures of every single car in the parking garage or the Newpark parking lot.
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - Best way to have sex... ;)
Ice Breakers In Ogden - - Rumors - We've been up there, and yeah it would be worth looking into.
Goldenhand - Its on Highway 89 between Wall Ave and that Pepsi warehouse.
AMMEND - I think North and South Ogden is pretty decent, Ogden City not so good. Now West Jordan is the place to be for swingers!
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