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Single Men Meeting Couples - Are Single Men Treated Un Fairly In The Lifestyle - ______________________________________________________________________________
** "Swinging" is just a different word for "swapping" and you can't swap if you bring nothing to the table. **
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NOT. Swinging is absolutely NOT about simply swapping. DON JUAN was absoltely correct. The women are NOT commodities to be traded amongst the men in the clubs and at the parties, but many of you devalue yourselves by assuming that submissive role.
Swinging is about choice. Thats is why the term "lifestyle" was coined in the early 80's; it's a way of life. If a single man is not to be considered a "real" swinger, then single women should not be considered "real" swingers either. What more does a single woman have to bring to the table than a single man? Do you think that these women do not represent the same set of issues that the men do?
The clubs, the parties, the events...these activities are driven by the WOMEN who particpate. The clubs will allow single women in for next to nothing for a couple of good reasons. The first of which is obvios; without a room full of hot women dressed in almost nothing, you would have a room full of nt so hot men, all standing around waiting for the woen to arrive. It would be like a middle school dance. Or a gay club full of str8 men. The second reason is even more simple. They attract MEN who spend MONEY. Single MEN and married MEN alike. The lifestyle is financed by MEN.
MEN who are willing to pay TOP dollar for the chance to meet with couples in the club. And let's face it, the guys who can afford to go on a regular basis are really the ones (if you are interested in single men anyway) that you would want to meet with, unlike a towel shark from the local adult arcade.
MEN who accompany their wives to the club to meet with other couples for the evening. These married men often spend (on average) $200 to $300 in a single night.
WOMEN are the EYE CANDY that keeps the party going. MEN do not want to go to a party that is full of other MEN, but they want to see EYE CANDY. So they are willing to pay to do it.
Mrs. Luvbugs! is a bartender, and a good one at that. She makes more part time than most degreed professionals (including me! humph!) do working full time. Why? She is very attractive. She is outgoing. She knows her stuff. She understands that SEX SELLS, and that her clients are there to see HER as much as drink a jack and coke. I have seen men sit at her bar, stare at her all night, run up a $100 tab, and leave her $30. Thats average...do that 20 to 30 times a night and what do you get? All for the privelege of being served by HER. I wouldnt do it, even if I were single. But then, I dont have to either, so who knows? THEY constitute the LION SHARE of her business, and her livelyhood.
The lifestyle is not different. We need these guys at the clubs. We need them to pay for memberships on our websites. They too are the oil that lubes the machine.
Sorry, but thats how it is.
Luvbugs! (mR.)
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Question for men - Honest - Sad to say but this place is going down fast! when this is one of the more popular forum topics on a swingers site LOL … #titanic
Just a little friendly advise to most single male swingers. - Male swingers - thanx
Moab Utah - Swingers in Moab - [quote=TheAdventurousCouple][quote=Stokedtopoke]Castle valley! Did you hit the whole enchilada? We love to ride down there...bikes and each other ;)[/quote]
We rode whole enchilada starting at Kokopelli, Mag 7, and Klondike.[/quote]
That would be the 2/3 Enchilada from Kokopelli haha, but still one of the best rides around ! Glad they finally opened the town up.
Wife sharing - Let’s see some fun adventures - Swingers cove at deer creek? A real thing?
Tired of Politics and Religion! - - Strange - was this forum not here when those that object to it joined? Having been on this site for a long time (first as MelbCpl and now as Swingtide) as far as I can remember it has always had one area that was open to discussion of things like religion and politics. Sometimes we read them and sometimes we ignore them - choice is good. At least to us Swingular is not just a "sex site" but a swinging lifestyle site and for some of us that is more than how many notches you put on your bed during the last party. If anyone wants the other topics to show up more in opening page than make more input into the other areas of the forum. Start new topics in other areas and work to keep them going.
Everyone has their own view of what swinging is all about and that is good - I'd hate to think we had to pass some checklist of qualifications to consider ourselves swingers. The site has room for all types of discussion so enjoy the areas you like and avoid the ones you don't like - not too far off from how most of us deal with what couple we want to be with! Personal choice and allowing other the same freedom of choice seems to fit the idea of the lifestyle :-)
What's the universal swinger signal? - How can you spot a swinger?? - [quote=FUN4MWF][quote=SOUTHERNFUN]FYI, If you see a man and woman grab their crotch and spit, they are probably redneck swingers
Having a Swingres day at lagoon - Swingers at lagoon - We think it would be a fun time count us in. Pick a day early so we can reserve a camping spot for some after hour fun. We put together a campout up at Echo Reseviour a few years back also that was fun. We would be interested in any campouts, bike rides and traveling to any fun destinations also. Keep us informed.
Thanks Dave and Jackie
Elusive FMF - Your thoughts? - Hello All!
Forgive the long post - but I simply wanted to respond to what VP stated SO well.
Posted by VP:
Here's a question:
Is it that a single swinging female is all that elusive, or is it just more likely that a woman who's secure enough in who she is to have a liberated lifestyle is probably more likely to have a boyfriend / husband? Thus making it a simple fact of life and society that the whole concept of a liberated single female is for the most part a myth or at best a temporary state.
Guys are programmed to be tomcats. There comes a time when "every boy must become a man". But little girls are taught that "sex is something only for your husband".
Society accepts single males prowling about generally - that's why when a single guy get shat upon in a swingers site, the resultant wailing bears striking resemblance to a chorus of whining mules. They don't get it: "They don't like me? Why? I'm hot..." Now if a woman were to go out there looking for it, then she's branded a home-wrecker, "slut", "whore", or worse. Tell me you'd sign up for that cruise?
IMHO: I think when a couple starts kvetching about the lack of single females, they might do well to have a look at why it is that they want just a woman and not her S/O. Chances are, deep down those same paradigms that are causing the lack of single females are deeply rooted in their own attitudes.
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From the "not so elusive" Te:
From my perspective I would have to agree with these statements wholeheartedly. I
Swinger and/or Polyamorous FB Groups? - - I have heard there is a Utah swingers group but it’s a secret group so I’ve yet to find it. Essentially need to know someone in it in order to get in. Hopefully someone on here is in it!
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