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Las Vegas Swingers club - - Definitely Whispers. Unlike Green Door and the Red Rooster - only couples and single women at Whispers. Our experience there was outstanding. Can't wait for the next visit.

Calling all losers! - LS and club scene - ...........................................I am bored on a Sunday, so going to waste a bit of time. :) I have said this before and I will mention it again here. Often times people are looking for a black and white answer, a "this" or "that" or they tend to pigeonhole themselves into a place that feels comfortable to them. It is great that people can search for and find people of similar interests. The original question was why is the Utah scene so closely related to the club scene. To me, that isn't necessarily the way things are and so I am responding to shed a different insight into the question. How big is the club scene in Utah? I don't feel it is that big. We have the Moose Lounge on Fridays on a regular basis, we used to have Habits and then we have the parties that happen once a month or less frequently, such as the Sinful parties. Give or take a few other club locations and attendees. The average attendance at the Moose Lounge is around 80 people every Friday. My guess is that this number is well under 10% of the swinging population in the area. Just estimating. This only happens once a week. If we only consider the weekend as play time (Friday and Saturday), which is also an inaccuracy since people do meet weekdays and Sunday as well, that means that only 5% of the population of swingers is actually attending the swinger club scene on the weekends. Certainly not a majority by any means. Sinful is definitely a club scene. And maybe we should define "club". I will say that is an environment where there is a DJ or another form of music, often times on the loud side as people like to dance, has a dance area for such activities, and typically doesn't open until 9 or so at night. Sinful probably hosts on average 150 people on average (S&A, don't get mad if this number is off,lol) and these happen maybe once a month. Lets just round this high and say that is 20% of the swinger population. However, many that attend the Moose and other clubs are the same that attend Sinful. Similar crowd and often an overlap. So still nowhere near a majority, or even a large percent. In fact, quite the opposite. This scene is well in the minority. So I am submitting that this really isn't and accurate assessment of the situation and based on more of a sense or feeling than actual fact. What this tells us then is that most of the people in the lifestyle are not meeting at clubs and are not necessarily dancing and staying up until all hours of the night but are finding other avenues where they meet. What other options are out there. Venus Game night, Kandy K, Sensual Massage... These venues are not club scenes, are a relaxed place and quiet enough to talk without "using hand signals". There still might be music and a dance floor, but there are certainly quite areas to talk, socialize and sometimes even fuck, if that is your scene. I would estimate that as many or more people attend these type of events and for most of these it is an older crowd who is more apt to be in bed at an earlier hour, though that is also an assumption and assumptions are obviously a poor way to derive information or determine a truth. I would question if any of the people in this forum have attending these more mellow parties and what they didn't like about that. The loud music is gone, it is a great way to meet many nice, non-pushy people with similar interests and since the crowd is a bit more mature (probably not the Venus parties) then there would be people of similar interests there. Now it may be of benefit of the party hosts to start earlier, say 6 or 7, so the activities can finish up earlier and I'm sure the hosts would entertain that if it was a common complaint. Apart from these types of parties and club scenes the only other way to meet people in a group setting are house parties, although keep in mind the Sinful hosts to things outside of the club but the crowd will usually still be the same people who attend the Sinful Club parties so are probably younger and okay with staying up late and partying, so probably not for the majority of people responding on this forum looking for an early-to-bed group. Let's talk about house parties. The ones we host sometimes have upwards of 60 or 70 people. These are people we have met before, for the most part, and we don't invite random people to these. We have an area to dance, music, but also areas that are quiet. The party starts around 7 and goes until... whenever. 6 am at times, but many leave before that. These aren't orgy parties and people don't show up expecting that. We also do game nights where we have 3-5 couples over for games, drinks, no dancing, hot tub, etc. Also people we know. We have been to many house parties as well and it is usually people we have met before. We are very leery of parties where there is some expectation to show up and fuck. We avoid these. Not our scene. But these house parties are out there. The doors close at 9, naked by 10, fucking by 1015. You are expected to fuck someone. Definitely not for us but definitely an okay and acceptable thing for others. Judgment is such an incredibly hypocritical thing in the lifestyle and I am astounded by how many people judge others. It is one thing to not enjoy a certain thing and to stay away from it, but it demean it, negate the validity of it and try to reduce the people who do it is completely asinine. My point is there is a variety, a full spectrum to every aspect of the lifestyle. From people looking only to make friends to people only looking to fuck. There is no right and wrong or black and white. We have so many good friends now that we feel super fortunate and blessed every day. But how did we meet those friends. Here is the key. Through hard work. Through dinner dates, clubs, social events, house parties and networking. Remember, this is my opinion, so please, readers, don't get offended. If you limit yourself to one avenue your success will be limited and you will have very few options in finding that fun couple that you click with. Many of our friends that we have met at a club typically like to be in bed at 10, or sometimes like to stay up late. Some of the people we have met in the most casual environment turn out to be crazy, fun party animals. I'm not saying if you don't attend the clubs you won't find what you are looking for especially since we have already determined that the club scene is so small. What I am saying is that if you are expecting a one-stop shop, or a fix-all, your success will be super limited. Your goal, I believe, is to meet as many people as possible and then sort through those you like and don't like until you are satisfied with your results. If you label the "club scene" as negative in your own mind, you might also be inadvertently labeling other fun activities and only reinforcing the confirmation bias you already have. Don't limit yourself to one way of finding friends, especially since it sounds like it isn't working that well for you now. We have found friends in every imaginable situation. Single dates, group dates, vacations, house parties and yes, clubs. I know our way works simply by the amount of amazing people that surround us and we call friends, and yes, some friends with benefits. Taking the time to start a topic is a good idea. The people on here all seem to have a similar interest and maybe some of you will take advantage of that, meet, and if things align, you make new friends. Maybe there is a need for a group to form that meets around 6 and finishes around 10 where only wine is served and only soft music is playing in the background. If so, take the initiative and form such a group. Create your own success. Maybe there needs to be a better way to post smaller events where only a few couples are going camping, coffee drinking, or similar. And maybe it is on Swingular and just not being utilized correctly. I'm sure with enough feedback the site could be fitted with such a feature. So don't despair. There are many, many people with similar interests and needs. You just have to find them. Each scene and venue has positives and negatives. Try to focus on the negative and utilize the resources that they are and you just might find your holy grail of FWB or what else it is you are looking for. Good job on the topic and hopefully that perfect couple is just around the corner. Mr. SRO...................................................................................................

Who thinks swinging should be just like ordering up an Uber? - - Just, you know, click on your phone and find a willing couple or single and 'wham, bam, thank-you, ma'am' after it's over you use your phone to immediately give them a rating. There could even be a short questionnaire about things like whether they argued about using a condom, whether their nipples were disgustingly pierced and even if their breath smelled like ass. Just think of the time this would save sorting thru 'binders of swingers' and trying to pick someone out based on a glorified Tinder profile. [em]Emo_28[/em]

Swingers Kickball Society - - Thanks for the interest if you want to join group chat on kik send a message over and will get you added. nicehikeguy

We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - Thanks for all the great advice. We still would love to hear more. In this specific situation we had talked about boundries and thought we all understood them. The first time the guy came and then kinda got wierd as my husband was still with his wife. That should have been a huge red flag for us. The next night they still wanted to hang out and confirmed with us they were cool with everything and how he is just shy. So we decided to give it another try. We thought the way he handled it was very rude and immature. Granted when things get started your feelings may change after you have already started but you should never just walk out. We would have understood and if he would have told us how he felt. We will take this as a learning experience and hope it doesn't happen again. Again, still open to more advice.....

You might be a swinger if - Anyone know where it is - http://www.swingersdateclub.com/swingers-jokes/100-ways-you-know-youre-a-Swinger-Blog-40345.html

Does Penis Enlargement Exist? - Help us cut through some penis BS - I've wondered since my double hernia surgery in March of 2004, my size got smaller. What use to be 8x5.5 prior to surgery, is now 6x5.5 two inches less in length. Do I have grounds for a law suit? I use to be the hit of the few house parties I went to, and among the few couples who enjoyed their time with me. But now I'm just the average joe looking to get laid. Also in 2005 I suffered a groin injury lifting furniture while moving a friend. Between the hernia surgery and the groin injury I have also gotten to the point that an orgasm is delayed. I read a muscle magazine once, and it dicussed delayed (retarded) ejaculation, due to steroid use, and straining of the groin while body building. Enzyte claims to be giving out free one month samples. Who would be a better testing ground than a group of over sexed swingers? Iron

International Swingers Day - How are you celebrating? - We left some Jager and condoms out for the god Eros and then had the fam over for a big celebration. [img]https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kWnrYWNYmos/WNTUz2ePvvI/AAAAAAAACUs/duO0GaSF3AgCa89Hro5VVPXIGxzrVilMgCLcB/s1600/Big%2BTeen%2BOrgy.gif[/img]

Who is going to Younge swingers week HEDO? - anyone going? - You know we are, Shadow. Can't wait. I call dibs on blowing a raspberry on J's naked ass.

Who’s had luck with single guys? - - [quote=LIVNITUP]You wouldn’t think that this should be very difficult to find a single male on this site for a threesome, but based on the posts I constantly see this place is plagued with males that talk a big game and then never come through. What do you guys do to filter out the good ones? This site needs to do a better job of getting rid of the single males that are all talk and no action. Maybe a three strikes and they are out. I realize sometimes things come up, but if it’s constantly that gets extremely annoying. Lots of us have lives and this kinda thing takes some planning. If you say you are going to show up and then don’t, it just wastes people’s time.[/quote] Easy answer to the original issue: A lot of guys on here aren't "swingers." They're single men who strike out in the vanilla life style eo they come here because they assume the men are cucks. The second type are the knes just fishing for pictures and those are usually the blind friend requests or copy/paste messages. And finally, the last group are the real single male swingers. They're probably the smallest group here and they're unfortunately lobbed in with the rest. A year or 2 ago someone suggested a rating/vetting system for single males as to seperate them from the pack of horny zombies. Maybe that should be re-addressed.