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Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - Lucky you... wish we could have that again. BTW, the Zebra Lounge is NOT even close to a poly relationship and the outcome could happen to ANY lifestyle couple!

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - [quote=GOODWINE5646]I was a journalist and I know Heidi. Hers was a reasonable, balanced report that focused on one woman who clearly had an awful experience. I'm sad she focused on a couple who were LDS. From our experience, I suspect she represents the majority who "try" swinging. There was a TV story done many years that was far worse than this one.[/quote] Please explain how you define "balanced." A balanced report on one woman's experience? The woman she reports on was abused. "Looking back, Susan said she feels like she was groomed into the lifestyle." "It was a lot of pushing by my ex-husband, a lot of coercing. He had friends call and talk to me about it." This is typical of an abusive relationship. She was thrown into the lifestyle to cure her relationship, let's also talk about the other abused women forced to do things they aren't interested in, that would be balanced. Also, "but she contracted the STD after he engaged in solo sex with another woman." Interesting, this solo woman could have been a swinger, a woman he picked up at a bar, a church function, or even a prostitute. Not a very clear report on this abusers sexual escapades. I'm just glad "Suzan" was still wearing her black ring..

I Have A Question - Poly vs. Open - [quote=PAIRPLAYERS][quote=EVILDOERS]Thanks for the responses so far. I thought of a couple of additional questions. Are you seeking, finding and connecting with other open/poly people here on Swingular or are you finding people thru other means? Also, do you find that most of the people you connect with are single or are they in their own primary relationships? Does it matter much to you if they are single or coupled?[/quote] Great question. Almost exclusively non swinger community singles surprisingly. Have tried amongst the swingers but they seem to have a very quid pro quo mentality. [/quote] Yes, they do! We noticed that dynamic almost immediately when we first entered the lifestyle and were actually talking about it just today in the context of no quid pro quo being a distinct positive in the column of open or poly lifestyles vs. swinging. SO many times when I was even just TALKING to a woman her partner or husband would basically go grab Ms. Evil, no matter what she was doing or who she was talking to, and assume it was perfectly okay to just do more or less whatever he wanted. After all, I was doing something/anything with HIS partner! Wow! Great responses everyone. SO informative! Thank-you.

Swinging as solo Male part of a couple? - - This sucks and is good at the same time. I definitely understand the couples only thing, we were like that for a while and I have to admit I got real turned on watching the husband and my wife and also knowing that he is watching his wife and I. And it also assured me that they were real swingers. I guess it is one of those lifestyle lessons. The part that sucks is that this time it is honestly a legit situation but too many cheaters and drama queens of the past have jaded most of us, including myself, in many ways

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - [quote=ERASEDPANTS][quote=EVILDOERS](cough*suckup*cough)[/quote] Indeed. We suck up, we suck down, otherwise you lose that "vacuum seal" and it's just not as pleasurable. Ha! [/quote] [img]http://scene7.samsclub.com/is/image/samsclub/0003181070383_A?$img_size_380x380$[/img]

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - No kidding, I almost dropped my phone hahahaha

Single Males - - [quote=EVILDOERS] ...get a girl to join you....Not only do you now "bring more to the table", but you have the added credibility that if you can find and finesse a girl into joining you in this little adventure we call swinging (whether it be a girlfriend, a wife, a second cousin twice removed, or just a hot fwb) you might just not be a giant douchecopter.[/quote] Ignoring the need to "finesse" someone and unhealthy gender stereotypes in general, this line of reasoning is a little troubling as it presumes that a male's company is inherently worth less. Or that an absence of semi-romantic relationships somehow speaks poorly of his character. I personally think approaching someone whom you aren't already fairly close with and soliciting to go to a swingers party is a bit out of line. Especially if her company is sought as an accessory to demonstrate to others that he is not, as you say, “a douchecopter”. Call me old-fashioned. [quote=EVILDOERS] I know we can't be the only people who secretly wonder just a little bit about some single guys and why they aren't with somebody. Do they secretly hate women (yes, we've met some that actually do), are they just too lazy (or busy, maybe...but hey, we're all busy) to find someone, are they serial killers and/or just not very nice guys? [/quote] Oh, I hope you are! That's a really unfortunate outlook to have. Promising relationships take time to find, let alone build to the requisite amount of trust and stability to try things like this. In the mean time, I don't see anything wrong with someone pursuing their interests while still holding out for someone worthy of their emotional investment. To me, that behavior is quite attractive should be respected! It doesn't get any better than someone who is confident, self-actualized, and motivated to pursue their desires. Sadly, it sounds their gender influences whether this is seen as a desirable trait. I'm not sure how long you've been out of things (30 years?), but it's easy to forget the struggle when you're comfortable in a marriage. Things are more fluid. People don't feel the need to settle down like they used to. [quote=EVILDOERS]I know many will say they've tried and swinging is a deal breaker for most women. After almost 3 decades in the swinging trenches meeting and talking to other people, both couples and singles, we would disagree....many, if not most, women could eventually come around to the idea of swinging once they feel safe and secure in a relationship.[/quote] This is just confirmation bias if the evidence comes from a sample of people you have met while swinging. [quote=EVILDOERS]...those of us who DID put in all the blood, sweat, and tears into a relationship and allow it to grow to the point of daring (don't think for a second we aren't risking a LOT in opening up our relationships to other people!) to allow others access to our significant other sometimes wonder why some others want to take a shortcut to all the sweet swinging bennies with little or no risk on their own part.[/quote] If you're not comfortable sharing your wife with someone you might view as a potential competition, you definitely don't have to. On the other hand, there are a lot of people enjoy it :) This smacks of the old “you must suffer as I did” chestnut.

Swingers at work... - - Work??? I thought all swingers were independently wealthy ('Cept me ... of course *Sigh*)

Hood Piercing 911. I need advice.......... - - "In case you haven't been told this, you really come off sounding like a Darwin Reject Prick. Get over yourself. Stop questioning why SWINGERS allow the female half to have sex with other men" I get the swingers way I just didn't see why separate rooms were aa BIG thing. As far as the rest, it was only a question why so defensive sounds like YOU'Re the one with some issue's to work through. I have Plenty of swinger friends.

Swingers Club - Swingers Club - I'm sure the ward cook book will have that recipe for the meatballs with grape jelly in the sauce. Mr. Deliciouslywet you have such great ideas that I think you secretly run the Chinese Buffet/Swing Club.

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