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Bubulaplease - Confidentiality - [quote=PROVOCATIVE]While we're talking confidentiality, I read an article about our future president's plan to increase domestic spying once again. He's also called for a boycott of Apple because they won't allow the government to have a backdoor into their phones. Texts to Android phones, however, are vulnerable, even when they originate from an iPhone. Phone data is also at risk.
The article mentioned that apps like Signal and What's App are the only ones that are government hack-proof, but the person you are texting must have the same app.
Another question I have to ask is: How safe is the Swingular phone app? I'm hesitant to use it on my phone after the inauguration. [/quote]
The NSA probably already knows you're swingers. And if they don't, Google almost for SURE does! lol
And as far as increased domestic surveillance after the inauguration, I think you only really need to worry if you're, like, a Muslim...or a minority...or a liberal...or a woman. [em]Emo_10[/em]
Sexy swingers closer to our age - 20-30 year old sexy swingers - Why hide your faces be proud of who you are and what you are
Is anybody on this site for fucking real or just a bunch of tease - - So just as everything else in life folks have preferences. So what you maybe attracted to is not attracted to you. We get this all the time probably because of age, who knows maybe its his beard. We have found the swingers in Salt Lake to be very friendly and we find we get responses pretty easy in our age group. Comparatively speaking we have never had a response on this web site from anyone we have written to in 4 years in Houston where we live. Good thing we spend about 8 weeks in the Salt Lake area.
Here's something Ive been curious about - - Congrats on 10 years in the lifestyle, SLOW. We're old timers as well and have been doing this off and on since shortly after we got married. Over 25 years now! So I guess I can sort of see both points of view and contrary to the current rather negative societal attitude towards political correctness I have no trouble being firmly on the side of being kind to people and not labeling or belittling anyone regarding their participation in the lifestyle. Having said that, however, I can also see the viewpoint of some couples since when we first started swinging there really were no singles (or at least so few that we never met any) actively participating in the lifestyle. A few years later we met a few singles who would, say, hire a hooker to gain access to parties and events or sometimes convince a friend to act as sort of a swinging "beard" if you will, again to gain entry to swinging events. This was all pre-internet so connecting was considerably more difficult than it is now. To say that the internet changed swinging (for better or worse) is a HUGE understatement. I was talking to a guy (formerly single but now in a couple) recently about his experiences as both a SM and a couple in the lifestyle. His attitude had actually changed dramatically. It reminded me of former smokers who now are militantly anti-smoking. His argument (now that he's no longer single) was to take the couples and the singles and put them on separate websites and what do you have? He said you have a swingers site and a hookup site. I told him that there are some couples who actually seek out singles over other couples but he wasn't easily dissuaded. One final point he made that I thought perhaps was a valid point...he said when he first started out as a SM in swinging he thought that all or most of the married guys who enjoyed seeing their wives getting fucked were basically cuckolds or at very least not real men. He said it took him many years and a lot of different experiences to lose that mindset. He also said that now that he's part of a couple who is frequently contacted by single guys he sees that attitude (because he recognizes it from when he had it) far more often than not. He stated that he would guess that the VAST majority of those single guys who don't "get it", the bad apples if you will, the ones who ruin it for the few good guys have that attitude and mindset. He said that's why there will probably always be somewhat of a schism between singles and couples. Whew, that was a long fucking post. Hope it made sense. No more herb before posting, Mr. Evil! LOL
Thought on "E" - - We firmly believe that everyone should have the right to choose. People should be able to do whatever they want with their own lives. It's funny because people do look down on swinging or swingers yet we all meet here, exercising our right to choose our own lifestyle. Why should it be different with anything else ???? Swinging irresponsibly is very dangerous and can lead to stds that can ultimately end in death. Its quite possible that something may occur even if you thought you were playing it safe. Same with drugs ,they can be risky as well, and there isn't anyway to safeproof yourselves 100%. I think that everyone should just go on living their lives the way they see fit and not judge anyone else for the way they choose to live theirs.
Mrs. Crunk
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - You feel such a compulsion to return to the forum and bathe in hypocrisy, why?
You wrote:
"Why must you constantly mock people?"
Just the assholes.
-D-
Vegas: Swingers circle or couples oasis? - Which do I prefer - Vegas baby Vegas
uncut penis - are most woman turn off when a man is uncut - My perspective is perhaps a little unique as I decided myself to get circumcised. My parents chose not to circumcise me as an infant and it was tough growing up in an era where it was done almost universally. I was the only kid I knew growing up who was [i]different[/i] down there. It wasn't as big of a deal as an adult until we started swinging. In general, most swingers didn't think it was a big deal (I was always meticulous about my hygiene) and some of the women even enjoyed very much the novelty as many had never seen an uncut cock. Ultimately, about 15 years or so ago, I decided to get circumcised. I'm both glad I did it AND regret it as my penis is far less sensitive now. Nowadays, as fewer parents are subjecting their sons to unnecessarily cutting off the foreskin, we are seeing more and more uncut cocks so I think it's slowly becoming less of a stigma in swinging.
KSL swing story - - YAY!
I'm actually excited to see this "expose"...I find it quite funny that there is so much hype surrounding it, actually. Does anyone really pay that much attention to the news anyway?
I sincerly doubt that I will go to work tomorrow and hear someone say "Dude, did you see that story about Swingers last night?"
Hey Recon - how come we haven't swapped bikes yet? My BMX for your Harley...
A&K
Do you mix your vanilla and lifestyle friends? - - We tell anyone who is a late night friend, ie: serious friend, vanilla or not that we have an alternative lifestyle. It has made things so much easier. Our vanilla friends are closer. We make it very clear that we don't have any interest in sex with them for concerns about ruining what is a already a good relationship. I am not talking, work vanillas, they don't need to know. I am talking about people with whom we go dancing or bar hopping. Why lie about who you really are? The whole reason for jumping the hurdle that is the "lifestyle" is to be free with who you really are. Then you are supposed to hide it with people who are supposed to really care about you? Nope.
Because of this, it is really cute when we throw a party or get together. The vanillas spend the whole time excitedly trying to guess who the swingers are. Most of the time it doesn't take much to guess. This reminds me of what got us started on this course. We threw a mostly vanilla roller skating party with some vanilla friends. They invited a whole bunch of people and we invited a whole bunch of people. We invited 3 couples who were swingers who did not know or probably didn't care to hide what they were. The vanilla couple invited once swinger couple totally unaware that they were swingers. We got very outed that night. lol It went really well so it carried over as a "good idea".
Piper
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