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Then there's this. - Enjoy! - I’ll be honest and say I feel terrible jumping into this online mess again. It seems there are so many tools out there for all of us to point fingers, argue, and simply divide us all.
I shouldn’t have jumped in and helped turn something that was likely meant to be funny into another argument. Everyone has the right to feel safe and secure and I hope you do whatever you need to do that, I just hope people tread lightly pushing those views onto others.
EVILDOERS Has always been a refreshing light on this forum with great advice for newbs and the funniest twist on everything. I apologize.
Hopefully I can do better and only add positivity to our great Utah swingers community to make 2021 better.
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - I whole-heartedly agree with your statement...as I mentioned earlier in the thread...I spent 20 years (and two wars) of my life defending the country and it's constitution...and the constitution guarantees everyone the right to say just about anything (short of perjury) they want...
As much as I dislike what was said, I have spent my life defending his right to say it...
This whole thing brings back a memory...many years ago (please excuse some of the "wording" as it's not meant to offend, it's simply exact quotes of others)...
When I was a young Second Lieutenant, my unit was sent to do "riot control" for a large march by Hosea Williams and his group...as you can guess, the Klan, skinheads and other distasteful groups planned to (and did) show up to "counter protest"...my unit was scheduled to be deployed between the two groups...
The night before, I was talking to my platoon...talking about the possibilities of the next morning when the march/protest...hoping that I might prepare them for the verbal abuse they were sure to endure, we talked about it and how to react...my platoon sergeant (who happened to be black) asked me "So sir...are you saying they might call me Nigger?" Of course, it was said tongue in cheek...he KNEW that is what we were talking about...knew it was going to happen...and simply put us all at ease by just saying it and getting it out in the open...his response was so true:
"Sir, those are just words and I really feel sorry for those people who have so much anger and hate in them that their only outlet is such an ignorant display - if they were really capable of expressing themselves intelligently they wouldn't have to resort to that - when I remember that, I realize just how much I feel sorry for them...and it's hard to get mad at someone you pity" - plus, I'm a soldier and I have sworn to protect their right to call me a Nigger"...
At that, everyone in the room laughed quite loudly...my platoon sergeant was quite the philosopher if you ask me...
SO, Don Juan...free free to make all the comments you want...no matter how ignorant, angry or uninformed they may be...I will continue to defend your right to do so...if you ever come to realize just why you are allowed to say those things without fear of persecution, maybe you'll change your mind...
Camper talk - Swing parties in campers have you done it - We love to play with other swingers in our rv. Single males and couples.
closed doors? - - Just an idea. Try a few more pics on your profile even pg rated but a few more, Get out to an open swingers party meet others socialy do not expect sex and maybe that hot cpl will fall into your lap LOL :)
just our two cents
real members? - - I have to disagree with you on your valadation process.. the ONLY thing that your photo or cam session proves is that it is a real person NOT a real swinger.
In order for someone to prove that they are a REAL swinger.... There has to be some kind of reference referral from other swingers.
Holding up a sign does NOT provide if they are swingers or not!!!
BTW.... the couple that started this forum topic are REAL!!! We have never played with them but we have seen them at several parties. They are as real as they come. :)
Carrie
Cuming out of the Swinger closet - - [quote=CNTRLCPL][quote=SJA]After some time in the lifestyle, we have recently started to break the news to some of our close friends that we are swingers.
We have great friends and so far they have taken the information really well. However, we have other friends that would never want to hear it, and god forbid if we ever told our family about it.
What are everyone else's thoughts about coming out of the "Swinger" closet?[/quote]
Have you even considered the implications for others that may want to stay "in the closet"? You may be committing "Swinger Suicide" as it were... your openness might be great for you, but other may want to stay behind the curtain and would not want to be outed by association. [/quote]
This is an excellent point we hadn't thought about. Luckily, we've only shared with a couple VERY close friends. Plus, we keep our vanilla friends and swinger friends quite separate to avoid this situation.
How did you get started? - -
Scott was familiar with the subject of swinging though not experienced, I had never heard of it. One day he started asking questions about my fantasies. Over the next several weeks we really had honest conversations about what we fantasized about and what turned us on. After that Scott found a local swingers club so we went to their social dance. It was not until then that I realized there were a lot of people (most, very normal) that also had similar interest in exploring their fantasies.
I would love to hear how others got started. Who brought it up? Did they bring it up because they had prior experience? How did you react?
Opinion -- House Party Or Club - - Well We have to say, house parties since we enjoy getting to know new people and getting acquainted with old friends. clubs are too loud and normally if it's not a swingers club you never know who else (vanilla friends, family, co-workers, clients, ETC) will be there. we have been to some swinger's clubs on the east coast and love it ass well. Since Utah don't have any swinger's clubs we vote for house parties not to mention that last week we went to one at recon's and it rocked
NYE in Central Florida (Ideas?) - Any Parties other than in Utah? - WE ARE HAVING A SWINGERS NEW YEARS EVE PARTY IN KISS MONDAY ALLIS WELCOME GOT AFEW PEOPLE COMING ALREADY GOT TO BIG SUITS RES AT OLD TOWN LOTS OF THING GOING ON COME PLAY
swinger ? or not. - - We became a swingers by accident when we knocked 2 doors shy of some Amway party. This shit's better than LOC
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