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The vent! - Judgements, I'm so tired of them. - Ah,
It's a decision we all live with - ebb and flow with. There are interesting things that occur within as Swingers, but the changes are pretty much within.
Learn to let go of what doesn't matter. Hold on to what does. In the end, live and let live! They are entitled to be as well as you.
So...just get in the mud and have a good time!
---------------K_T
"Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul in this world--and never will."
Mark Twain
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - Can we talk about the kind of car we would drive if we won the lottery? [img]http://www.thesupercars.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/2009-bugatti-164-veyron-fbg-par-hermes-thumbnail.jpg[/img] Bugatti Veyron....cliche, but dude....just taking it across Europe...oooo.....
I'm in a '99 Accord, can't complain :) Not as capacious as the minivan, not as thrilling as the camaro, and not as powerful as a truck, but I did find out that the governor stops it at 137 mph ;)
Swinger & 🦄 Bait - An experiment to attract swingers and unicorns. - Wtf?
Swingers gone bad?? - - Still agree what was done is a wrong but I was just thinking of an old movie, "The Summer of '42" and can't remember any public outcry about a movie showing some young boy being mentally scared by an older lady. (Great movie BTW - nominated for over a dozen awards and winning two. It also allowed for a great standing joke as a teen saying "I'm bringing the marshmallows - what are you bringing? See the movie for the answer - good training for swingers) Maybe I'm wrong but I wonder who needed the drinks to do this more - the teens or the adults. I'm too long from 16 to know for sure but can't say with any level of certainty if I would have turned down a older women wanting to teach me. Guys - would you have run from an offer like this as a teenager?
Still wrong and I know for sure I have a major double standard because I wouldn't feel the same if this was a 15 year old girl. Could be because I'm a guy and have daughters. I find it hard to understand the "why" of doing it with the risk. I also doubt any young teen would have that much to offer (I do remember a bit from those days and can say for sure my best performance did not occur in the back seat of my parents car!)
Max
How would you respond - - Yeah we've come across those cheating singles as well. Either married or have a g/f whom doesn't know. Last SOB story was she had a medical condition and couldn't have sex anymore, however it was ok for him to play as LONG as she wasn't aware of whom it was with. Most recently we had a profile name and description that appeared to be a couple. ID name on other swing-site was " Nicecple4fun " Turns out its a single male looking for a nice couple for fun ... it takes all kinds. We don't feel you did any thing wrong, just the mentality that swingers are cheaters and single guys feel that its pretty ez to poach. We have had several single guys participate with us however we generally meet them at LS events or house parties. Can't really say we've had any luck on any site with a single guy. They attempt to rationalize it away any way they can and feel like they are correct LOL and some just plain rude about it. " he likes fishing and she doesn't ...." wow I guess with that mentality she can take up quilting and cheating too, since I'm sure he doesn't probably like sewing in any form...
Here's something Ive been curious about - - Congrats on 10 years in the lifestyle, SLOW. We're old timers as well and have been doing this off and on since shortly after we got married. Over 25 years now! So I guess I can sort of see both points of view and contrary to the current rather negative societal attitude towards political correctness I have no trouble being firmly on the side of being kind to people and not labeling or belittling anyone regarding their participation in the lifestyle. Having said that, however, I can also see the viewpoint of some couples since when we first started swinging there really were no singles (or at least so few that we never met any) actively participating in the lifestyle. A few years later we met a few singles who would, say, hire a hooker to gain access to parties and events or sometimes convince a friend to act as sort of a swinging "beard" if you will, again to gain entry to swinging events. This was all pre-internet so connecting was considerably more difficult than it is now. To say that the internet changed swinging (for better or worse) is a HUGE understatement. I was talking to a guy (formerly single but now in a couple) recently about his experiences as both a SM and a couple in the lifestyle. His attitude had actually changed dramatically. It reminded me of former smokers who now are militantly anti-smoking. His argument (now that he's no longer single) was to take the couples and the singles and put them on separate websites and what do you have? He said you have a swingers site and a hookup site. I told him that there are some couples who actually seek out singles over other couples but he wasn't easily dissuaded. One final point he made that I thought perhaps was a valid point...he said when he first started out as a SM in swinging he thought that all or most of the married guys who enjoyed seeing their wives getting fucked were basically cuckolds or at very least not real men. He said it took him many years and a lot of different experiences to lose that mindset. He also said that now that he's part of a couple who is frequently contacted by single guys he sees that attitude (because he recognizes it from when he had it) far more often than not. He stated that he would guess that the VAST majority of those single guys who don't "get it", the bad apples if you will, the ones who ruin it for the few good guys have that attitude and mindset. He said that's why there will probably always be somewhat of a schism between singles and couples. Whew, that was a long fucking post. Hope it made sense. No more herb before posting, Mr. Evil! LOL
Swinger cruise - YOLO cruise on Carnival Legend (April 26th) - Hi everyone,
As many may already know, YOLO cruises is having the first ever swingers-only cruise leaving out of Tampa this coming April 26th. My wife Josee an I will be attending and hope to see many of you come along as well.
Josee & Marc
Swingers Dares - Text for cards in the game - Alright...let's push the limits.
Dare: Name 2 things (sexually) you've never done before and name 2 people from the group to do them (You can join in or be one of the two).
To help move that one along, you might want to have everyone playing list 3 or 4 things they've never done (but wanted to) on a piece of paper before the game starts.
Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - Pices here
Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - Ever seen Zebra Lounge? Give that movie a whirl!
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