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Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - ULUV,
Insecurity, fear, unwillingness, ignorance etc. I believe a true swinger or "Libertine" is one that exercise free thought and actions without regard to morals or a dogma. This means not only in sex, but all things. I strive to be openminded with everything, but no one is perfect. I, like everyone am at a level of openmindedness in my life and I am striving to achieve new levels of understanding everyday. Some of will remain, some of with regress, while some us will continue to advance our whole lives. Willingness to open up to new ideas and concepts helps. Hate will exist as long as ignorance does.
Kinsey is among many scientists that have and do explore the realm of human sexuality. Many people don't try and take the time to better understand themselves. We are such egocentric creatures fundementally, that we often lose sight of reality through our own perception. That perception has ben clouded by propaganda, ignorance of fact and misinformation.
I strive to better understand those around me, by coaxing them to interact with me here. Sometime, I admit, I manipulate them with controversial subject matter to "stir the pot", but it get shit moving and get's people talking and interacting. There in the combustion chamber, can we all see what's happening. We just have to do our best to take of the clouded goggles of our perceptions and open our minds to the sometimes harsh, sometime beautiful reality. I am still trying to get mind all the way off.
-D-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_Reports
We're Back!!! - Hi there! - Makes me wonder how many viable, sincere hits you two get with such a specific search criteria. You don’t consider yourselves “swingers”, but you’re on a swinger site looking for an exclusive relationship… from my own personal experience and from what I’ve seen with others, this type of relationship with another couple burns short but bright. I always caution couples we know when they come across other couples that change their minds from a sexy fun friendship to trying to back them into a serious “exclusive” relationship… excluding all other friends they’ve made in this LS along the way. It can be a drama filled and painful road. I’m sure of the 6 couples you’ve dated over the years you can attest to that if you’re being 💯 honest to yourselves.
This type of relationship should be (imo) found organically and mutually if that’s what it ends up being… Saying you want to be exclusive with a potential swinger couple from the start, while upfront and honest, can sound forced and rigid. Some of the stories of possessiveness between couples just sound absurd to us given the LS they’ve chosen.
In any case, good luck with your search.
How close is too close - - If you have problems in your marriage, swinging is not going to fix them. I think the excitment of swinging will, perhaps, camoflage them for a short time. But in the long run if there are problems the level of trust that is required to swing -- just will not be there.
But I wonder how our statistics compare to the general public? Are swinging couples getting divorced at a higher or lower rate? Comparing our swinging friends with our vanilla friends, the swingers seem far more happy with and into their mate.
The scenarios and issues raised by this question, happen in and out of swinging.
Remember the joke -- "my wife ran off with my best friend, and boy I am going to miss him". That is a vanilla life joke.
We all need to take care to respect the intimate relationship between other swinging couples. We should all expect others to respect our relationship with our spouse. But in the end, if you trust each other enough to swing successfully, then I think the other issues of life will prove to be fairly easy to handle together.
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - AKLIM, thanks for proving my point. It doesn't matter if they are the minority. I only matter that we all came here to fuck. It takes virtually the same energy to write "no thanks" as "fuck off" and even less to ignore. This should not be a problem at all. It's only an issue because those that wish to take offense make it one.
-D-
Wife's bday on 5th, suggestions? - What do you think or want to do - Not sure if this is something you would want to do, but this is what I did for my wife (ex-wife now) back in Calif. in the late 80's for our first year anniversary. I had it all planned out, keeping in mind that we had been swingers for a few years and had made a few friends...though we didn't get together with them as much as we/I wanted. Anyway, we lived about a 2 hour drive to Reno NV.. I had told my wife I wanted to take her to Reno for our 1 year anniversary and she was excited to go. Other stories of our playtimes in Reno will not be told at this time..lol. I had, behind her back talked to members of this group we were in...AFF group....and when all was said and done, 3 single guys and 2 couples(not counting us) ended up there. It was an incredible night to say the least...and obviously you would be substituting Wendover for Reno...lol.
Black Rings - Do Swingers really? - Problem is many vanilla couples have black rings as well because they think it’s new/cool.
Looking for Las Vegas fun - Looking for other swingers in Las Vegas - We are headed to Vegas Thursday and looking to meet some fun new friends!😊
Moab Utah - Swingers in Moab - Lol , we’re here now.
Mansion Massage Mixer reviews/info? - - Their ad. states "Single males must bring a date or be accompanied by a hosting couple". We've only been to one so we're going back tonite & see if our 1st impression was correct. #1 The Mansion is a super cool place, well worth visiting. #2 - seemed to be couples in the 30's - 40's. Not many of us "more mature" swingers there. #3 Didn't see much playing, a little in the hot tub, but the massages looked awesome! #4 We left about 12:00 so the party may have warmed up after we left.
Black Rings - Do Swingers really? - We wear black rings right hand ring finger. Also upside down pineapple is a swinger identifier. Pink flamingos are supposed to mean swingers present (lots of vanillas have them also).
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