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Just looking for other couples happy with super soft and no swap - There must be more of us out there? - Though a bit defeatist, this started off as a reasonable post, and coming from an understandably frustrating overall experience. I am amazed at the level of ignorance following. Everyone getting all defensive about their choices, where they fall in the scheme of things, what I do and you should too. It's so unnecessary. I experience this in SO many different communities... The LGBT community is judgmental and coarse with Bisexual and Trans people, Western Medicine usually moves to deem Eastern medicine totally ineffective before acknowledging its place or use for anything despite its true benefits, in the realm of Non-monogamy the Polyamorous won't have themselves being mixed up with the 'likes' of Swingers, in the Swinger community soft-swappers are passed up as unadventurous. Time and time again I am shown how many adults truly do live with some sort of high school mentality, who is cooler, buys bigger, more liberal, commits greater, goes faster and farther, it is all SO ridiculous and unproductive.
Of course soft-swap can still be satisfying for those who have also done full. I don't think anyone healthy could look at this as a no-turning-back sort of lifestyle. As your life changes and grows so will your preferences and desires. Some of you scoffing at the soft-swappers may find yourself desiring that very thing in the future. And many soft-swappers will evolve into full-swapping. There will always be someone who's views are copacetic with your own, but why aren't there more that are respectful? You can take the time to understand ones position without agreeing with it, and better still, the tried and true "If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say nothin' at all." The ridicule is just not necessary. Best of luck to everyone, in all your adventures. I know we could sure use some. :)
Lake Powell Party 2012?? - - [quote=WYSONGDOG]We are there now but not for the swingers, Have the entire family for our annual family vacation. But either way it's a kick ass trip. Hope everyone that is there is having a great time. We're camped in rock creek if anyone needs anything. A fall trip would be cool tool[/quote]
I just got home from there last night.. Hot but the water is great!
With the water level where it is, the big cave on the West side of Rock Creek should be accessible. Great place to hang out on the water in the shade!
As for a fall trip, I know there is a big Poker Run being held out of Antelope Point the weekend of 9/15 that we will be running in. Should be a fun time then too (then again, Powell is always fun)
is soft swap swinging??? - - YOUNGANDSEXY,
Anyone who tells you that soft swap is not swinging, is not a swinger. They are trying to oppress you with their idea of sex and relations with others. That in itself goes defies the definition of swinger. So just say fuck those fuckin fuckers. They are not worth your time. Vaginal intercourse with a stranger, does not make a swinger. If that were true, then all prostitutes are swingers.
If it were me, I would say, "I'll full swap if I can take a morning shit in your fuckin mouth." Be sure to tell them they're not true swingers unless they fully open up to you. Lay on the pressure. See how they fucking like it. I hate fuckin' people that use snakey tactics and pressure.
-Don-
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - I am saying that that logic doesn't justify intolerance. My analogy is logical. It's you that can't distiguish the meaning or ok in society, where it's impairative that we all get along to coexist safely and will our freedom intact. The majority say that swinging is wrong. Yet here you are. It is the KKK's opinion that blacks are monkeys and subhuman, does that make it socially acceptable? You're saying it's ok to be racist and or intolerant.
-D-
KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - [quote=INTERESTED1TIME1]Come to the dark side of swinging! We have cookies![/quote]
See now that's the attitude that pisses vanillas off...when they think we're having more fun (or ANY fun for that matter) than they are...and that we have cookies too. [em]Emo_25[/em]
Question - do you talk about other swingers? - I have found that when I meet someone new for drinks or dinner etc, that a good place to start the conversation is about the site on which you met and some of your experiences there. My question is, How much, or do you talk about other members or swingers in your area. Sometimes it's a very small world, lol especially if you're meeting someone local.Usually it seems hard to avoid if you or they have comments or certifications on your profiles, sometimes someone will ask what you thought of "so&so" I usually try to be discreet and not mention any names if I'm discussing some experience I've had. But then again there have been times when other people have mentioned names of swingers who were really hot, or maybe even some that were not "so fun" to meet lol and it has been helpful to me. So what do you think?
New Lifestyle Destination Coming Soon - There is a new lifestyle-only "BnB" club opening this Fall in the Ozarks - Funny you should mention this... my wife has a dream of opening a swingers BNB when we retire.....
Preconceived Ideas - - It's been a long time, but I'm not sure that I had any preconceived ideas. I'm poly and responsibile non-monogamy was nothing new to me. On the other side of this relationship B knew I was Poly and she didn't quite understand it but trusted me. She was "curious" that is to say if she saw FF play in a flic she got so gushing wet.. but because of her catholic upbringing, she couldn't be Bi....that's a sin.....??.... Well we went to a party and luckily a couple and staff members sat down and talked to her and she watched people and talked to others and found out they were not pervs. Nurses and medical personel are probably the largest group in swinging. Cops, (police for the people who don't like the other term) truck drivers, mechnics, architects, contractors, engineers etc... So a good cross section of the general populaion are represented.. When she found this out...she embrassed the lifestyle and she loves to dance and... let her libido run. She was no longer curious after a couple of parties.... So she can get nude do whatever she wishes and even have orgasms on the dance floor dancin with herself.... WOW... So her preconceived ideas was that swingers were pervs... Oh...and I guess we are... By the vanilla world.....Give em time... pretty soon maybe everyone will cum over to the lifestyle,,lol
swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - highway u r good i do not know what to say but is that all u have everyone talk feeedom of speech til someone talksand u all bad mouth him
and highway i think u need to stick to the highway the road has treated u good....
so keep the baby comments cummin whatever makes u all feel good bring it on
Swingers clubs in Amsterdam - - I was just in Amsterdam a few months ago and Tinder actually worked really well. Also going to bars or clubs works well because lots of people on vacation wanting to get wild are there as well.
If you are looking for a couple or to strictly swing there is the "Candyclub" and "Paradise Club" I haven't been to either since the Mrs was back in the states but I was told by some friends that either of those can be great. Most of the people you see no matter where you go will be anything but dutch. Amsterdam is a melting pot of nations and you'll see people from all corners of the world.
As for places to stay "The Albus" is centralized in the city and all the fun things to do within walking distance. Getting around in a car is not needed and actually would suck way more than just riding a bike, walking or just taking the very inexpensive public transit.
If you are looking for some unique fun that you can't really get in the states the Red Light district has live sex shows that were hilarious and very well done for $40/person you won't get any action but it was well worth it and the girls we were with LOVED it. Also I've been told that the prostitutes are highly regulated; are tested daily to be STD free; and are open to couples. They are also drop dead gorgeous. You can see them as you walk down the street. The ages range from 21 all the way up to 60. All you need to do is wave to them they will come out and you can do whatever. I myself can't give an opinion on if it's worth it to get a prostitute or not since it isn't my cup of tea, but the better half of a couple I was traveling with said it was worth every penny.
I hope this helps if you have questions let me know.
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