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The males of couples I need your help!! - I am trying to understand my husband and male pride.But been that I am not a male this is hard.So please help. - being in the life style u will meet alot of people that are looking for different things in different ways . most have some kinda of rules . but there is a few wives that can play on their own without the hubby around . but please remeber that most couples do it with each other cause they enjoy watching each other enjoy themselves with another person . the life style is for people to explore thier fantasies . the couples are very open and honest about what they want and dont want and they want to meet people who are looking for what they are look ing for . the more rules u have the harder it will be to find the friends you are looking for . dont ever do anything u dont want to do . or make your hubby do something he isnt ready for . it willonly back fire . but i think it would be helpful if u pampered your husband a bit . to let him know u love him . and u are happy with what he has to offer you . him not wantitng another man around at all shows some jealous issues . and it might be a good idea to talk about that . even if u are only wanting to be with women u still should talk about any kinda of problems like that . him being young he is new to this stuff and might not understand how swingers see and think and feel about this kinda of stuff . swingers are very open and treat sex and the body different then normal straight people . ill give u an ex. if he takes u to a reg bar iam sure he has to fight off the other guys that are trying tomake their move on you . the other guys are normally rude and pushy and all of that . at swingers parties they are not like that . its more of a loving and shareing way . they arent trying to put the moves on you in a disrespectful way at all . the best thing i can think of since u dont want any guy around is to put your profile up on all the girl sites looking for other girls . you will find alot more ladies looking for what u are looking for thier then on swingers sites . cause ill tell u they are hard to find on swingers sites . but then what u are looking for is girl on girl and then u will run into the problem of your man wanting to be there . just like he doesnt want other men around . alot of the ladies looking for other ladies dont want men around . so the same thing that your hubby is not wanting from couples . guess what yall are a couple . and alot of single ladies only looking for other ladies is going to see yall as a couple and are going to have aproblem with your hubby wanting to be there . like i said the more rules u have the harder it is to find what u want . i am in no way telling u to change your rules or anything like that . so please dont take what i am saying the wrong way . u will find what u want . but it will just take longer and u will have less picking to choose from . what been u find the ones u are looking for it will be worth the wait . i really liked the idea that someone said , it was to find a couple that has been in the life style for a while and let them help yall meet new people . at the club we go to they have couples that greet and help newbies find some friends. and just because u arent looking to play with couples doesnt mean u can t meet new people and hang out and go to parties with couples . we love meeting new friends . and we love to invite people to the club and hang out with them . and help them meet new friends . once u meet new friends u will feel better and more relaxed . when u go to clubs u just tell the people what u are looking for and if they arent it then so be it . no harm done . i really think u should talk to your husband about why he feels so strong about the other guys not being around . cause that will cause problems being in the life style . dont be judemental towards what he says but listen to him really good . and i think if he was friends with other guys in the life style that might help him feel more relaxed . but if nto then please dont push him . its not worth it . i have always been into ladies and not men . it is so hard finding single ladies that we both can click with . so we found it easier to find a couple that was looking for what we are looking for . i dont mind light touching and stuff like that . but i am not looking to play with another hubby . so we make sure its ok that way . only girl on girl and then each finsihs with their own mate . . well i gave u every idea that i can think of to help yall . so good luck . and have fun . naughty dreams freaky kitty

Single Males - Question - I'm a single male and I stick to profiles that say single males,HOWEVER most don't respond or either get ugly about it,what gives *anyway*, Do yall women not like the play of two men giving you that special loving, or is the male part telling us to fuck off in so many words,because he is looking for *women*, Think about it I feel most women never get to see the e-mails form the men!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been swinging for 13 years and 10 years as a couple!!!!!!!! . I saved the e-mails for her from single men and she would pick and choose for her-self, not me for *HER* and she would choose guys form reg ( size) ( 5" x 4" ) to very big (9" x 8" ) Black guys or white guys , No mid east or others she liked American dick "LOL" I wtach,Play with them then me her would enjoy each other after they left I loved sloppy seconds,and cream pies we had a great time and I sure do miss them to, we would even do oral-bi together, I would lick her with a big one slidding in and out doggie style,she would deep french kiss me after she would suck a guy off *HELL* we were really into fun and openminded, Whats Happend to swingers, WHAT Have yall all turned into !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JIM I'm thinking about leaving this sit because of it

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - It sounds like a great idea, we too are also looking for people that we can trust and let it all go. Count us in.!

Why the male side of Couples are here...? - I will admit I am hoping to spark some heated debate on this.... - [quote=EVILDOERS][quote=CPL4SOFT]Because every time the female half gets on all she gets is here's a pic of my cock, want to fuck? [/quote] At the risk of further pizzing off a few of the single dudes around here... That's because a fair number of guys assume that since you're swingers (i.e. you "allow" your partner to fuck other men) you must by default be a cuckold. It's bullshit and it unfairly affects the single guys who DON'T assume that married male swingers are all cucks (or won't openly admit it-lol). To be fair, we've run into more than a few married guys who feel this way too. They're easy to pick out because they say up front their lady doesn't fuck other guys or they try to bait and switch you after you meet. Exactly... Bty EvilDoers, you guys are awesome! We laughed so hard reading your profile! Xoxo!

Sinle female but married , hubby not interested - Husband is not interested but wife is . - I agree with the above posters. Having seen a few threads like this on here you will probably find that the majority of this community will feel the same. Even swingers can cheat because cheating is about the lie. Most swingers I have met disapprove of cheating. (although, just like with non swingers, some still fall short of this ideal) The mansion party thing is a good idea. The environment doesn't require play and lets you understand this world before you make decisions about it. Your husband may find it not so intimidating and that there isn't actually any mustard to cut after all.

Threaded messenger - We want threaded messenger - [quote=FIT_N_FUN]“There are some really damaged people” on Fetlife? Really? Lmao ... FYI Fetlife is NOT a swinger site, it’s a BDSM site. Just because you don’t share their fetish doesn’t make them damaged. 🙄[/quote] It's actually a lifestyle site and swinger is one of the designations to choose from when setting up a profile. We've met and played with a lot of swingers from that site, so I'd say it's a viable option for swingers. And to clarify, I'm not referring to their individual kinks. I'm referring to the writings on that site. We've read some deeply disturbing things on that site and if you're an active member, you know of at least a couple recent issues that gained a lot of attention.[/quote] I disagree, and we’ve been on Fet for many many years. Fetlife is a kink/BDSM fetish community. Yes, you can designate yourself as a swinger, but the site is in no way a “swinger” site. In fact I think most kinksters on Fet will want nothing to do with swingers who don’t have kinky fetishes, and are just hoping to hook up, Of course there are pure vanilla swingers there, but I sure wouldn’t recommend it as a “swinger” site. Kasidie is a far better swinger site as an alternative to this crap site lol

Is it a “preference” or is it “ discrimination” - - [quote=EVILDOERS]Discrimination can be against non-physical attributes as well (Political and religious are the two most obvious nowadays.) But I would call almost everything else a preference, at least as far as swinging is concerned. One of the biggest hurdles we found when we first entered the lifestyle was people who were upset that, for whatever reason, we didn't want to fuck them. Their mindset was, "We're swingers and you're swingers so what's the problem? Let's fuck!" We did, eventually, come to the realization that in some instances our first impression, based on looks or whatever, could be overcome, in time, by getting to know people better and eventually finding a different kind of attractiveness that trumped simple physical attraction. YMMV[/quote] Oh of course discrimination can be against non-physical ... my question was can a non-physical attribute be just a preference and not be discrimination .. it sounds like you think so ... other than maybe with political or religious? Hmmm so let’s say someone keenly despises Trump, or Bernie (not that anyone does lol) .... like really can’t stand them. And someone crazy hot that LOVEs Trump, like wears a red MAGA hat loves, wants to hook up ... Could the political disposition “preference” still be only a preference, and not discrimination, if it gets in the way of any possible sexual attraction ?

Statement From Swingular Regarding CW Article - How to protect your privacy. - We've been keeping a close eye on the issues surrounding the recent article by City Weekly. We've decided to post a statement regarding our stance on this issue and also help our members understand how to better protect themselves from this and when future issues arise. First of all, neither Swingular nor it's representatives have been contacted by any member representing CW to do an article. If they say they have, then the person they talked to was not truly a Swingular representative. If Swingular had been contacted by anyone concerning articles about Swingular or swinging in general, our official position is to say 'no thanks' and pass on it. However, that does not mean that those requesting to do the article will find the information they are seeking, one way or another. Just like you can find an adult dating site, so can anyone else. Otherwise, these types of sites would not be in existence if nobody could find out about them. We cannot stop those who wish to investigate the world of swinging and from them telling the rest of the world about it. Every time somebody does an article or spot on the evening news about swinging in the local scene, are we supposed to lock down, run and hide? It's going to happen no matter what you do. So our job is to find ways to best protect the privacy of our members and to inform them on how they can protect themselves. When an article or news story comes out, we have kept track of any unusual activity on the site as well as new sign ups from that local area. The recent CW article has not produced any extra or unusual activity from the Salt Lake City area. In fact, it's been a bit lower. We've averaged about 8-10 new sign ups a day from the Salt Lake City area for the past 14 days compared to 12-14 new sign ups a day in October. So the actual publicity and/or exposure from this has been minimal if at all. The reality of it is this. If my family didn't know I was a swinger and saw an article about swinging, I guarantee they aren't going to 'check' if anyone they know is. They'd rather not know. I think the majority of non-swingers would rather NOT find out if someone in their family was. Yes, there may be a few more lookie lous, but I guarantee you they are looking because they are curious about it, not because they are against it. If you are against porn, are you going to go to a porn site to see what kind of porn is out there? I don't think so. I think you would stay away from something you don't believe in. And that seems to be the case with this recent article according to the stats. Even if someone decides to check it out and see, the only thing they will be able to see is your basic info and your primary photo. Only paying members can see your full albums and only your friends can see your private albums. I don't think many people are going to pay for a membership just to find out if their friends and family are swingers. I'm sure they don't want their hard earned money profiting a site like this. We have been in this business for over 8 years and have seen it all and we can tell you it's more paranoia than anything. What it comes down to is what you need to do to be able to enjoy this site and at the same time, protect your privacy. So we have come up with some things that you can do to be able to move forward and not worry every time someone or some reporter starts talking about the lifestyle. 1. Use a unique username that none of your non-lifestyle friends know of. If you need to change it, please contact us. 2. Do not post anything that can identify you personally in your profile descriptions such as addresses and phone numbers or visible tatoos. 3. Post faceless pictures in your public album. Make sure you don't expose anything on you or around you that someone can identify. You don't need to post cartoons or backgrounds, etc... Nobody is going to figure out who you are with faceless pictures. If you need help editing your images, contact us and we will edit them for you or recommend someone who can. You can also use a free online photo editing site such as www.picnik.com. 4. Do not post any identifiable information in the forums just like I mentioned in #2 above. 5. Use caution when adding friends. Get to know someone first. 6. Use caution when allowing others to see your pictures. There are a lot of picture collectors and fakes out there so if you get a request to see your private album from a couple or single female, voice verify first by phone. 7. Use caution when sending or replying to emails. Use your initials instead of your full names or use aliases until you get to know someone a little better. 8. And last, let these things go. The more you talk about it, the more you feed the fire. I know it's great drama and presents conversation but you're only bringing more attention to the topic. Sooner than later, it will die, if you let it. By following these simple suggestions, you will be able to maintain your privacy and still be able to enjoy using a website like this to meet others. It's not necessary to completely such down your profile in fear. Are you going to do this every time it happens? Well then you might as well just remove yourself from the scene then because it's going to come up again sooner or later. It's inevitable. We hope this helps some of you and hope it helps clear up some of your concerns. Your privacy is our top priority so if you have any questions or concerns, please contact us. Thank you, Swingular Administration Note: We have removed any negativity or hate posts surrounding these issues. We feel that it is hurting the lifestyle as a whole and does not belong on a site like this. We have had many new members contact us saying they do not wish to be a part of a site with so much hate. That is not the intention of a Swingers dating site. Therefore, we will be removing any new postings that involve hate and negativity. If you wish to debate in a friendly matter or post your opinion in a non-threatening or mature way, then do so. We do not believe in censorship however we do believe in providing a safe, comfortable and friendly place for everyone in the lifestyle to enjoy.

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Anyone else in or near Daybreak? - We know you are out there! - [quote=MEOWMIX10000][quote=PLAYNW3]What ever came of the Daybreak swingers Facebook page? Is it active and being used?[/quote] pretty slow. a couple people talk and post pics. most people just lurk. We need more people. Could be a great group[/quote] We worry about our kids etc finding it, that's why we haven't joined the Facebook group. We'd like to hear what's going on but really don't trust Facebook for this type of communication.