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Why do they run? - Why do most couples run when you suggest a real full swap? - I am certain that insecurity has no bearing on the decisions that we make in regard to the lifestyle. What you are suggesting simply isnt for us. We take so much from being in close proximity to each other during our encounters that it would render the experience...perhaps ackward or fruitless, for lack of a better term.
There is a reason that so many couples run from the possibility of what you call \"full swap\". Many years ago when we were first introduced to the lifestyle, \"full swap\" entailed having sexual intercourse with another couple. \"Soft swap\" meant oral play or touching only, no intercourse. Perhaps the deffinition has changed over the years...
I am certain that what you are describing is closer to what traditional polyamory is all about. In fact, there is a reason why the couples that you approach about this subject \"run like the wind\" as you call it. More times than not, it has proven to be destructive to the relationships in question. Best intentions or not, we are all human. Shit happens. Most seasoned swingers know this, and avoid this situation at all costs.
Most of the relationships that we have seen over the years that were as you describe ended in ruin. Most of the people that we have known to consider this method were (coincidentally) new swingers, who had not yet developed a sense of direction or an identity in the lifestyle. There are some mistakes that you can make in the lifestlye without jeopadizing your standing with your mate. There are some that you simply can not. What you are suggesting to other couples, while it may seem like something that would be fun and cool, has proven to be atleast problematic to many other people.
Just our .02 cents.
Best of luck to you both.
Luvbugs! (mR.)
:D
LDS Survey Results - - [quote=HOTTYZX2]Oh yeah just cuz lds is one of the main religions does not mean it is the most common if you put all Christian religions together and I mean all of them including Mormons catholic etc all combined there is only six hundred million more Christians ( as a whole. ) than the Islam religion making them the most common. So no one is bashing on the most common religion because so far I am the only one to bring up Islamic religion. We are bashing on poser two faced punks..[/quote]
The problem with your argument is you didn't comprehend what you read.
[quote=LUCKYWONS]We are in Utah, so the most common religion is Mormonism, which makes this poll most applicable to the demographic, [/quote]
In other words, Here in Utah the most common religion is Mormonism, which makes this poll most applicable to the demographic (i.e. Utah)
A majority of the state's residents are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). As of 2007, 60.7% of Utahans are counted as members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, although only 41.6% of them are active members.[
According to a report produced by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life the self-identified religious affiliations of Utahans over the age of 18 as of 2008 are:[7]
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 58% (labeled as Mormon on survey)
Unaffiliated 16%
Catholic 10%
Evangelicals 7%
Mainline Protestants 6%
Black Protestant Churches 1%
No Answer 1%
Other Faiths 1%
Buddhism <.5%
Eastern Orthodox <.5%
Hinduism <.5%
Islam <.5%
Jehovah's Witnesses <.5%
Judaism <.5%
Non denominational <.5%
Other World Religions <.5%
Margin of error +/- 6%
So, If my math is correct, all groups designated as Christian, other than LDS, make up 25% of the states religions. That is already less than half the percentage of the Mormon church, yet just that 25% completely dwarfs Islam's .5%
HOTTYZX2, calm down and clear your head before you go making radical declarations about numbers you obviously haven't researched.
Granted this information was valid as of 2008, but I did not find anything more recent, and I think it is at least a good benchmark to go on.
[quote=HOTTYZX2]
And FYI Utah is the swinger Capitol of the nation. Utah has more swingers then organ and Washington has hippies..[/quote]
I would love to know where this statistic comes from. I have been searching for it for weeks now and can't find it anywhere. Does anyone know?
Habits Saturday night - Any couples or single ladies want to join us? - We hardly ever see any swingers when we go there but after about 10 it get so crowed in there it hard to see anyone.
Ways to point out Swingers in public - - I personally think we should all get tattoos. I do think the commercial with sling and swingers could be good way to test Waters. Use it as reference for a joke.
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - I would love to find a couple to DP with...even DVP it they want.
Xmas carols for swingers. - - Damnit!
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co_sNTUWRMA]What Will Santa Clause Say[/url]
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Scuba, Nude Beaches, Swingers - Scuba, Nude Beaches, Swingers - we're headed to Jamaica to scuba and sunbath on the nude beach in Montego Bay. Can't wait.
CB & KB
When age matters.... - - We started playing in our mid twenties and have always had chemistry test rather than an age test. Now that we are in the more "experienced" group of swingers we still use the same chemistry test. We have also noticed that, with a few exceptions, most people we meet at house parties are pretty much the same. Of course the "exceptional" people usually do us the courtesy of laying their biases out on the table right up front.
Bob
Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - [quote=BMSHELL][quote=CHEFFETTE]That would be a brilliant way to make a bunch of quick cash off the oldsters, promise they'd be surrounded by nubile youngsters, then shrug your shoulders when it's mostly a wrinkle-palooza of 60-something men who'd have to admit they lied their way in.[/quote]
I think you just described the business model of every swinger-club in Vegas. =)
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Where would you put such a club, purely in theory? :scribbles notes furiously:
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