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C- A - Any swingers clubs around Salt lake? - [quote=Harleynight12345678]Redemption is a fun spot, or the rusty nail is fun as well.[/quote] Redemption is fun haven’t heard of the rusty nail so you need a tetanus shot to go there

Why are there prostitutes on Swingular? - - [quote=ANONYMOUS]Cool. Swingular is craigslist/backpage now. That's definitely what we all want.. to be solicited by stupid prostitutes. [/quote] The debate has raged for decades about the validity of single males to be called "swingers". I'd go so far as to say the complaints about unsolicited messages from single males far outweigh those of sex workers on this site. (Please, somebody correct me if I'm wrong). In our opinion, this seems like a very minor annoyance, and just a reason to bitch about something. Delete. Move on. Simple stuff.

How to identify yourself as a Swinger - - [quote=LOUISE_DON]Upside down pineapple ?? lol i dont get that at all.....[/quote] Early on, when looking into swinging, I visited another forum. A couple posted a picture of themselves with the caption, "We did it!" Their shirts were off and they were facing away from the camera. A few people posted that they didn't get it. The OP explained that they got upside down pineapples tattooed on their backs so other swingers would know they were in the lifestyle. No one knew what they were talking about. It was sad cause at first they joked that it was a well known sign, but person after person chimed in that they had never heard of it. Some people who had been in the lifestyle over ten years said they'd never heard of it. After a while they stopped trying to convince people and then stopped responding. It was pretty sad.

Calling all losers! - LS and club scene - ...........................................I am bored on a Sunday, so going to waste a bit of time. :) I have said this before and I will mention it again here. Often times people are looking for a black and white answer, a "this" or "that" or they tend to pigeonhole themselves into a place that feels comfortable to them. It is great that people can search for and find people of similar interests. The original question was why is the Utah scene so closely related to the club scene. To me, that isn't necessarily the way things are and so I am responding to shed a different insight into the question. How big is the club scene in Utah? I don't feel it is that big. We have the Moose Lounge on Fridays on a regular basis, we used to have Habits and then we have the parties that happen once a month or less frequently, such as the Sinful parties. Give or take a few other club locations and attendees. The average attendance at the Moose Lounge is around 80 people every Friday. My guess is that this number is well under 10% of the swinging population in the area. Just estimating. This only happens once a week. If we only consider the weekend as play time (Friday and Saturday), which is also an inaccuracy since people do meet weekdays and Sunday as well, that means that only 5% of the population of swingers is actually attending the swinger club scene on the weekends. Certainly not a majority by any means. Sinful is definitely a club scene. And maybe we should define "club". I will say that is an environment where there is a DJ or another form of music, often times on the loud side as people like to dance, has a dance area for such activities, and typically doesn't open until 9 or so at night. Sinful probably hosts on average 150 people on average (S&A, don't get mad if this number is off,lol) and these happen maybe once a month. Lets just round this high and say that is 20% of the swinger population. However, many that attend the Moose and other clubs are the same that attend Sinful. Similar crowd and often an overlap. So still nowhere near a majority, or even a large percent. In fact, quite the opposite. This scene is well in the minority. So I am submitting that this really isn't and accurate assessment of the situation and based on more of a sense or feeling than actual fact. What this tells us then is that most of the people in the lifestyle are not meeting at clubs and are not necessarily dancing and staying up until all hours of the night but are finding other avenues where they meet. What other options are out there. Venus Game night, Kandy K, Sensual Massage... These venues are not club scenes, are a relaxed place and quiet enough to talk without "using hand signals". There still might be music and a dance floor, but there are certainly quite areas to talk, socialize and sometimes even fuck, if that is your scene. I would estimate that as many or more people attend these type of events and for most of these it is an older crowd who is more apt to be in bed at an earlier hour, though that is also an assumption and assumptions are obviously a poor way to derive information or determine a truth. I would question if any of the people in this forum have attending these more mellow parties and what they didn't like about that. The loud music is gone, it is a great way to meet many nice, non-pushy people with similar interests and since the crowd is a bit more mature (probably not the Venus parties) then there would be people of similar interests there. Now it may be of benefit of the party hosts to start earlier, say 6 or 7, so the activities can finish up earlier and I'm sure the hosts would entertain that if it was a common complaint. Apart from these types of parties and club scenes the only other way to meet people in a group setting are house parties, although keep in mind the Sinful hosts to things outside of the club but the crowd will usually still be the same people who attend the Sinful Club parties so are probably younger and okay with staying up late and partying, so probably not for the majority of people responding on this forum looking for an early-to-bed group. Let's talk about house parties. The ones we host sometimes have upwards of 60 or 70 people. These are people we have met before, for the most part, and we don't invite random people to these. We have an area to dance, music, but also areas that are quiet. The party starts around 7 and goes until... whenever. 6 am at times, but many leave before that. These aren't orgy parties and people don't show up expecting that. We also do game nights where we have 3-5 couples over for games, drinks, no dancing, hot tub, etc. Also people we know. We have been to many house parties as well and it is usually people we have met before. We are very leery of parties where there is some expectation to show up and fuck. We avoid these. Not our scene. But these house parties are out there. The doors close at 9, naked by 10, fucking by 1015. You are expected to fuck someone. Definitely not for us but definitely an okay and acceptable thing for others. Judgment is such an incredibly hypocritical thing in the lifestyle and I am astounded by how many people judge others. It is one thing to not enjoy a certain thing and to stay away from it, but it demean it, negate the validity of it and try to reduce the people who do it is completely asinine. My point is there is a variety, a full spectrum to every aspect of the lifestyle. From people looking only to make friends to people only looking to fuck. There is no right and wrong or black and white. We have so many good friends now that we feel super fortunate and blessed every day. But how did we meet those friends. Here is the key. Through hard work. Through dinner dates, clubs, social events, house parties and networking. Remember, this is my opinion, so please, readers, don't get offended. If you limit yourself to one avenue your success will be limited and you will have very few options in finding that fun couple that you click with. Many of our friends that we have met at a club typically like to be in bed at 10, or sometimes like to stay up late. Some of the people we have met in the most casual environment turn out to be crazy, fun party animals. I'm not saying if you don't attend the clubs you won't find what you are looking for especially since we have already determined that the club scene is so small. What I am saying is that if you are expecting a one-stop shop, or a fix-all, your success will be super limited. Your goal, I believe, is to meet as many people as possible and then sort through those you like and don't like until you are satisfied with your results. If you label the "club scene" as negative in your own mind, you might also be inadvertently labeling other fun activities and only reinforcing the confirmation bias you already have. Don't limit yourself to one way of finding friends, especially since it sounds like it isn't working that well for you now. We have found friends in every imaginable situation. Single dates, group dates, vacations, house parties and yes, clubs. I know our way works simply by the amount of amazing people that surround us and we call friends, and yes, some friends with benefits. Taking the time to start a topic is a good idea. The people on here all seem to have a similar interest and maybe some of you will take advantage of that, meet, and if things align, you make new friends. Maybe there is a need for a group to form that meets around 6 and finishes around 10 where only wine is served and only soft music is playing in the background. If so, take the initiative and form such a group. Create your own success. Maybe there needs to be a better way to post smaller events where only a few couples are going camping, coffee drinking, or similar. And maybe it is on Swingular and just not being utilized correctly. I'm sure with enough feedback the site could be fitted with such a feature. So don't despair. There are many, many people with similar interests and needs. You just have to find them. Each scene and venue has positives and negatives. Try to focus on the negative and utilize the resources that they are and you just might find your holy grail of FWB or what else it is you are looking for. Good job on the topic and hopefully that perfect couple is just around the corner. Mr. SRO...................................................................................................

I’m defense of single males - Funny old geezers - We are in our sixth year on this site. We are also currently on three more sites, even after dropping two more. When we joined Swingular, we were taken aback from the negativity toward single guys. We did not see this this level of animosity on any other of the sites we are or were on. Aside from the folks from Idaho and Wyoming (and very, very few nationwide), this site is predominately Utah based. I am not negatively judging Utah since a survey or research was never done, but we had to wonder if this hatred is a Utah thing. Or was it a few couples who made it seem normal to criticize, demean, humiliate; and then everyone just jumped on the bandwagon? Human history has taught us that ostracizing is easier than accepting. Who knows? We certainly don't understand it. Many couples correctly point out that single guys are not [b]"swingers"[/b] since they don't swap. But, we believe that single guys are part of the [b]"lifestyle"[/b] for many couples. Why is fmf ok, but mfm is not ok? As a side note: The vast majority of our play is with couples(our preference). But we occasionally like mfm for the different dynamics it offers. We have been very lucky with mfm and haven't had a bad experience yet, which I cannot say is always true with every couple we've met.

How far are you willing to travel ? - - HOW FAR AM I WILLING TO GO TO MEET THEM HOOK UP ? ALL DEPENDS ON HOW GOOD THE ASS IS ..... HA HA HA HA JUST KIDDING . U KNOW SOMEONE HAD TO SAY IT ........ WE REALLY DONT TRAVEL MUCH TO SEE OR DO ANYTHING ..... SO I WOULD SAY NOT TO FAR . BUT WE HAVE ALOT OF PEOPLE THAT INVITE US OR EMAIL US AND TELL US THAT WE WANT TO HOOK UP THEY CAN COME HERE . TALK ABOUT PRESSURE . I DONT THINK I WOULD GO TO SOMEONE ELSE LIKE THAT UNLESS I HAVE CHATTED ALONG TIME WITH THEM AND KNOW WE CLIKC WELL . OR HAVE MET THEM BEFORE . CAUSE I DONT WANT TO TRAVLE FAR AWAY AND THEN FIND OUT WE DONT CLICK WELL. WE HAVE 3 KIDS AND WE ARE REDOING A HOUSE .I RUN A SWINGERS SITE .HE DOES BODY PAINTS . SO WE HAVE NO TIME TO DO ANYTHING . WE ARE BUSY ALL WEEK LONG . AND THEN THE WEEKEND IS TO DO EXTRA THINGS AND SPEND TIME WITH THE KIDS AND FAMILY AND STUFF LIKE THAT . WE GO TO A SWINGERS CLUB ON SAT NIGHTS WHEN WE CAN GET OUT . AND WE WELCOME ANYONE TO COME AND HANG OUT WITH US THERE . WE ARE MAINLY LOOKING FOR NEW FRIENDS ALL THE TIME TO MEET AND HANG OUT WITH. WE PLAY WITH THE ONES WE REALLY LIKE AND CLICK WITH . WE DONT MEET ANDPLAY . WE ONLY PLAY WITH GOOD FRIENDS . I REALLY DONT CARE IF THEY LIVE OUT OF STATE OR RIGHT NEXT DOOR . AS LONG AAS IT ISNT GOING TO BE A ONE NIGHT STAND THEN WE CAN HANG OUT WITH THEMWHEN EVER THEY COME TO TOWN . ALOT OF SWINGERS TRAVEL ALL OVER . FOR FUN OR WORK . AND ALOT OF THEM COME TO OUR ARE CAUSE WE HAVE ALOT OF SWINGERS CLUBS AND NUDIEST RESORTS HERE . SO PEOPLE TRAVEL TO COME HERE ALL THE TIME . THERE IS SOME THAT COME EVERY WEEKEND . SO WE DONT JUDGE PEOPLE BY HOW FAR THEY LIVE AWAY FROM US . CAUSE THAT CAN CHANGE ANY DAY . IF THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THE SAME THINGS AS IN FRIENDSHIP AND THEY ARE RESPECTFUL AND FUN WE WILL CHAT AND STUFF LIKE THAT . WHEN THEY COME HERE THEN WE MIGHT PLAY OR NOT DEPENDING ON THE PEOPLE . BUT I DONT HAVE TIME TO TRAVEL TO GO TO PEOPLE. AND IAMNOT TO WORRIED ABOUT HOOKING UP TO DO THAT EITHER . THE LIFE STYLE IS ALOT MORE TO US THEN JUST HOOKING UP AND GETTING SOME ONE NEW TOPLAY WITH . SO I SEE NO REASON TO TRAVEL TO ANYONE . TAMPA IS FULL OF SWINGERS THAT LIVE HERE AND TRAVEL HERE . WE JUST SAY LET US KNOW WHEN U COME TO TOWN AND WE WILL TELL U WHAT PARTIES ARE PLAN THEN . IF U WANT TO HANG OUT THEN GREAT . IF NOT HOPE YOUR VISIT HERE IS GREAT ! BUT PLEASE DONT TAKE OUR FREAKS BACK HOME WITH U . LEAVE THEM HERE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE .......... HA HA HA HA NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY

another club under fire - club in peoria - [quote=NAUGHTYGIRL101][quote=CARRIERMANANDGEEKGIRL]Obviously, the Peoria city fathers have never heard of the Constitution. #1. - It's a PRIVATE club, which means it's not open to the general public. #2. - Nothing that happens inside is within view of the general public. #3. - The club's proximity to the police station has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING. #4. - Swinging and/or swapping partners is NOT illegal. It will be really interesting to see what the exact wording of the ordinance is. It will also be laughable. [b]FLASH:[/b] "Consenting adults arrested for having consensual sex behind closed doors." Film at 11:00.[/quote] I always forget how spoiled ya'll in Florida are...Constitution or not they can and will shut this place down...look at Utah...we have NO swingers clubs and as of now Ogden has no strip clubs...talk about conservative...oh wait, I DON'T LIVE IN UTAH ANYMORE...roflmao I keep forgetting that lol[/quote] It just happened in Vegas too! No more swing clubs.

Lifestyle vacations - Best place for a lifestyle vacation? - We just went on our first lifestyle vacation to hedonism 2 in Jamaica. We went with a group called young swingers week (OP just meets the criteria) and it was amazing. The resort itself is fantastic, the staff is friendly, the entertainers are very good, and there's always plenty to do even if you decide not to interact with others. And, of course, there's always the other guests. Contrary to the previous post, only half the resort requires nudity; the other half is clothing optional and the dining areas and front desk require some covering. If you're going in March I'd definitely suggest going swingers week if there's still spots available. They buy out the whole resort (minus a couple legacy rooms) and get to add an extra layer of events for the group. The hosts are amazing. Basically, there's a reason they get something like a 70 or 80% return rate year after year.

Do you agree, that some times it\'s ok to swing with a solo marr - - Our two Cents... If your just hooking up for sex and not friendship as many in the lifestyle are does it matter what the other partners have going on in there lives? Where they work, are they married etc? Everyone swings for there own reason and if all your looking for is pleasure of a third or whatever then so long as they are clean, respectful and discreat it really shouldn\'t concern you (Same goes for females). When you meet at a swingers club do you check everyones credentials, do a background check and call references? HOWEVER... if your looking for friends, more than just a one night stand (Not the No-Strings arrangment) then surely you would talk about why everyone is involved in the lifestyle and honesty etc become doubly important. Just our outlook.. we are pretty tough on our screening for swing partners and friends been burnt too many times. Amanda & Peter

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - Mmmmm...love it! Now I want to try DVP! DP was an amazing orgasm so I can only imagine what DVP would hold in store ;) Kisses, Naugh-Ty