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Logan - Vasa gyms - [quote=EVILDOERS]As to the second part of your question, we haven't actually played AT the gym since the old Sports Forum in Woods Cross was open. We used to occasionally sneak into the spin room when the gym wasn't crowded and do naughty stuff. Only once with another couple tho. [em]Emo_82[/em] [/quote]Thats hot. We should create a swingers only gym 😀!
Just for shits and giggles? - Why are you in the lifestyle? - We got into a car accident and the judge told us we either had to be the butler of the guy we hit or become swingers. [em]Emo_79[/em]
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Is Exhibitionism wrong? - Just after everyones thoughts... - I enjoy BOTH. There's nothing better than watching a sexy couple have sex. I've set up some "accidental viewings" over the last few years. Many couples enjoy showing off in front of a stranger. Some get a real rush from the nautiness of getting caught or watched by someone. I wish there were more couples in Jersey that would take part in this activity.
I've also discovered that I truly enjoy showing off for couples or in groups. After attending two swingers clubs with some couples that I met, I realized it was a BIG turn on to perform in front of people. I think I like performing with or for a couple more. It's a rush to be told by a couple to take out your cock and start jerking off or for a husband to ask you if he can take pictures while his wife sucks your cock. WOW!!!!!!! One of those pictures is in my profile.
How does everyone else feel about exhibitionism or voyeurism?
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any sugestions - I think a lot of the people on these sites are posers here for the pics..... - they have this feature called a validation. If more people would get validated as a real couple then it would make it a little easier. We are a bit expierenced in this area on how to locate the fakes. There are things you pick up along the way. I mean not like you should have to. We never share pics on YAHOO unless we have met the people in person or know that they are real IE phone call or webcam. Or someone else that knows they are real. Someone that has been here multiple years and has not met anyone is a red flag. Most swingers unless you dont have pics on your profile that show what you really look like wont ask for more pics. They dont want them cause they want to see the real thing. Fakes always come up with the dumbest excuses for not being able to prove they are real. We have not been validated on this site but had we been validated to a degree that it is obvious that we are not fake we would want to talk to people on the phone to assure they are real. We get thier number cause it is obvious we are real as I said. We are new to this site but another site we are on we have over 20 validations. So it is a little easier to do so in that case. Most people in this day and age have a webcam. Or have the money to go out and buy one for I think the crapiest is 20 bucks. Easy way to prove you are real. Also real swingers dont get upset at the fact that they are challenged on being real. They just prove it. We have called people out and they have gotten pissed. It is rather funny cause that is the biggest red flag of all. Sorry for the mess and bouncing around I just wrote as I thought.
Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - [quote=EVILDOERS]Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world.
The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for.
You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies.
Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck!
edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em] [/quote]
damn EVIL, I have read most of your responses and there are alot of smart ass comments. this however was not. This helps me and the MRS alot. thank you... BTW love the smart ass comments also..
Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Anyone know if Unspoken in Ogden is having a lifestyle m&g this Friday night 2/4 and if so what is secret password?
Hey all you "totally secure couples" - Just in case you got it wrong you have methods to recover your loss. - that was entertaining, but notice the host's conception of swingers. anyways... "I'll sue your ass!"
Mormons - - E'one,
It appears that there are enough swingers that are also believers in a god. Perhaps you should form a more tolerant version to the faith and recruit members. That's pretty much how all the other branches got their start. The believed differently from the "mainstream". Those that believe god or the gods could give a fuck about your sex life should make your own version. Hell you can even write a supplemental to the Original christian bible. If there is such a thing. Anyway, I say do what makes you feel right. If you fuck and it doesn't feel wrong, then fuck. The only people who say it's a "sin" are humans.
AG, That just proves that many religions families usually ignore one of the fundemental principles of "God's Intent" and rob individuals the right of free will until they are away from the grips of their families. People feel so dependant on the church because the church is all they know.
-Don-
Swinging/Polyamory - I just wanted to hear other people thoughs on this....... - Poly is pretty much a multi-party marriage (more than two) and includes all the commitments that go with a marriage.
Swinging is "recreational sex" irreguardless of what other relationship you might be in, ie single married, poly etc.
The one thing that I disagree with in the thread is that swinging does not or should not involve a relationship. Rather it is the LEVEL of relationship/commitment that is the question. If you have friends, especially close friends (and I hope you all do) that is a relationship. "Normal society" says you must be in a much higher level of relationship/commitment ie married to have sex. Swingers say you can be on a good friends, friends, or even just acquaintences and have sex. All of these are relationships and I would submit for your consideration that there are a lot of swingers that enjoy getting together with the same people multiple times and also enjoy other things together outside of hopping into bed with each other. That all is a relationship but lower level of commitment. So maybe the commitment level is really the demarkation.
We swing and really enjoy it. We have friends that are also swing partners and we enjoy them both as swingers and friends. We have friends that don't swing and we enjoy them. Those are all relationships, but the commitment is to friendship and or swinging. Does this make sence?
seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - WELL THAT WAS LONG WINDED TO SAY THE LEAST. READ WHAT WAS WROTE AND HOW IT WAS WROTE. IF YOU HAD LIVED IN THE SOUTH FOR MORE THEN A YEAR AND I DONT MEAN SOUTH UTAH. YOU WOULD OF SEEN THAT THE REASON FOR WHAT YOU SAW THERE WAS THIS. WE AS SOUTHERN FOLKS OWE NO ONE A APOLOGY FOR ANYTHING AT ANY TIME, BUT WE AS SOUTHER FOLK HAVE PUT UP WITH THE BULL FOR SO LONG WE ARE TIRED. SO IF WE DONT COME OFF LIKE WHAT YOU ARE USE TO SEEING IN THE OLD DIXIE LAND MOVIES WE ARE SORRY. BUT SENCE YOU DONT HAVE MUCH OF THAT OUT HERE YOU WOULDNT KNOW WOULD YOU. BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE I GOT A HOME IN TENN AND FLA YOU ARE WELCOME AT EITHER AND YOU WILL SE HOW IT REALLY IS WHEN YOU LIVE IT. WHEN I GO TO SOME SOCIAL GET TOGETHERS HERE IN UTAH I HAVE TO HEAR HOW BAD WE ARE IN THE SOUTH TOWARDS OTHER RACES,AND HOW WE DID THIS AND WE DO THAT AND ALL THAT CRAP. AND IT PUTS US ON THE OFFENCE AT TIMES. BUT LIKE BOB (MARLEY) HAS ALWAYS SAID DONT WORRY BE HAPPY OR AT LEAST HIT A FATTY. IF YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT A FATTY IS THERE TR I CAN HELP YOU UNDERSTAN THAT ONE TOO. LOL BUT THEN KNOWING ALL MUST BE A GREAT BURDEN TO SOME. TO ME AS LONG AS I KNOW IT 5:00 SOMEWHERE I AM HAPPY CAUSE I KNOW IT WILLL CATCH UP TO ME SOONER OR LATER.LOL BUT BEING A JACK MUSLIUM AND ALL THAT IT INTELLS I LOOK FORWARD TO POSTING STUFF LIKE THIS TO YOU BECAUSE IF ALL THE NICE FOLKS ON HERE TOOK THE CRAP I READ FROM TR TO BE THE WAY OF THINGS IN THIS WORLD WE WOULD NAVER GET NAKED AND WE WOULD ALL BE LIVING IN A GEORGE ORWELL BOOK CALLED 1984. SO TR GET LAID CHILL OUT ON THE UP TIGHT ASSHOLE ATTITUDE AND FOR GOD SAKE DONT WORRY WE ARE ADULTS AND MORE THEN ANYTHING WE ARE NORMAL AMERICANS WE CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH, WE CAN HANDLE THE COLOR THING IN AMERICA AND MOST OF ALL WE CAN HANDLE THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. QUESTIONS CAN BE ASK WE MIGHT NOT LIKE WHAT IS ASK BUT THEN WE HAVE TR TO TELL US WHAT WE LIKE AND DONT LIKE,RIGHT. HELL IF WE ALL LIKED THE SAME THING WE WOULD ALL BE LIVING IN SOME PLACE LIKE IRAN OR CHINA OR SOME OTHER 3RD WORLD COUNTRY WHERE WE WOULD BE DAMN SCARED TO SAY WHAT WE THINK. SO CHILL OUT GET NAKED HAVE FUN I HEAR ALL THE DOUBLE SPEAK I WANT ON TV I DONT EXPECT IT IN A SWINGER ROOM.AFTER ALL WE AS ADULTS AFTER SEX WITH OTHER PEOPLES WIFE AND OR HUSBAND DOES NOT BEING NAKED WITH A STRANGER NOT BRING ONE DOWN TO THE VERY BASISC THING IN LIFE. BUT HERE I HAVE WENT AND GOT LONG WINDED MY SELF.SORRY FOLKS. BUT I KNOW THERE WILL BE A ANWSER TO THIS FROM OUR LIBERAL FRIEND THAT IF I DIDNT KNOW BETTER I WOULD SAY HE WAS RUNNING FOR A FEDERAL OFFICE IN UTAH OR WASHINGTON OR MAYBE HE WANTS TO THE FRIST TOO RUN THE NEW WORLD ORDER THEY ARE TRYING TO INVOLK ON US UNDER KING GEORGE LOL. WELL I MUST SAY GOOD NIGHT MRS.CALIBASH WHERE EVER YOU ARE.
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