we went to a party once or 4 times while we were there and someone told me there were a 100,000 give or take in utah morman or no they were all reall nice folks except the one in provo who drove the beamer an i think he might of been just the one asshole i met in utah lol but hell i was on my harley so i may of been mistaken
That's a tricky question. I can tell you a saying we have around here. Make sure you invite at least two Mormons to your house at a time. If you only have one over, he'll drink all your beer.
I am not morman but out of the near 50 or so couples i have talked to on the internet and in person i find that there is a surprising amount of mormans in the lifestyle(15-20); not necessarily on this site though. However, i find that they are almost all into the "friends" that babysit children and help move before they get to the sport of swapping. friends with benefits is awesome but the quilting circle,baby showers, and fireside is just a little to weird to me
what can you say yes they are a bit different in them there yonder hill but then aint we all. you should try va for a tough crowd at least in utah they are up front about it
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I don't think religion affects one's libido. <u>Everyone</u> likes to fuck. If your dogma frowns upon adultry or promiscuity of any other sort, that is between you and your god or gods.
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I don't think religion affects one's libido. <u>Everyone</u> likes to fuck. If your dogma frowns upon adultry or promiscuity of any other sort, that is between you and your god or gods.
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we are in lds hell here in cache valley but we are not so i am not sure
We are recent transplants to Utah, and we are not Mormon. The lifestyle culture is different here for sure. As has already been said, there are a good number of people who want to chat only. It seems the house party concept is far more prevelant than the monthly lifestyle group parties at clubs that we were used to attending. However, when it comes to talking, making friends, and playing, there isn't a marked difference based on religion...people are people and people truly interested in the lifestyle tend to find commonalities despite diverse backgrounds (for the most part, anyway).
We too find a suprising amount of swingers either are or were mormon, but then again maybe its not so surprising. I often refer to it as the 'Preachers daughter' syndrom: either your pure or you do what you want and flaunt it. Utah seemed to produce alot more of the latter.
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Agreed, what you call "Preacher's Daughter Syndrome", we call liberation from oppression. That is why there is so much sexual deviancy amongst so many religions, to include the one that is the topic of this thread. Anytime you stifle what it is to be human, you cause problems. To have sex is to be human. You can't stop nature without consequence. I happen to think it sexy that most of those mormon girls are harboring naughty fantasies.
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Agreed, what you call "Preacher's Daughter Syndrome", we call liberation from oppression. That is why there is so much sexual deviancy amongst so many religions, to include the one that is the topic of this thread. Anytime you stifle what it is to be human, you cause problems. To have sex is to be human. You can't stop nature without consequence. I happen to think it sexy that most of those mormon girls are harboring naughty fantasies.
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so, is there anybody from So Cal active on this site? (Mormons are welcome also, hell the more the merrier) lol
How many of you did something as you grew up simply because it was all you knew?
That is the case for quite a few people we know, ourselves included. As we grew older, got married, and were able to see different sides to humanity we are able to make our own decisions on what we like and want in life. To coin a term we heard once, we are "unsuccessful mormons" ourselves..lol
That is the case for quite a few people we know, ourselves included. As we grew older, got married, and were able to see different sides to humanity we are able to make our own decisions on what we like and want in life. To coin a term we heard once, we are "unsuccessful mormons" ourselves..lol
It doesn't matter because we're all going to hell.
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the2ovus: My response to the mormon question has always been "yes, but I've never been very good at it"
Both hubby and I grew up in lds homes, did what the parents wanted us too - then woke up one day as adults and realized we could actually choose for ourselves what made us happy. I don't think it's a fair judgement (then again is any judgement fair?) to look down upon Mormons who are practicing their religion and practicing in the lifestyle. Maybe they aren't very good at either one just yet! My vote is to encourage them to look within and find out what brings them true inner peace and go with it, no matter the path they choose.
I've never made the connection between the couples that chat till your fingers fall off and never meet to Mormons. I think there are a LOT of scared folks.... just wish I could tell them apart!
Funny thing to me is that no-one ever asks if the couples that are down south are bible bashing baptists and swingers too, just due to their location. Why is it Mormons end up looking like hypocrites when religion is in debate?
*can you tell there are some Mormons in my life I love and will defend with my life?*
Both hubby and I grew up in lds homes, did what the parents wanted us too - then woke up one day as adults and realized we could actually choose for ourselves what made us happy. I don't think it's a fair judgement (then again is any judgement fair?) to look down upon Mormons who are practicing their religion and practicing in the lifestyle. Maybe they aren't very good at either one just yet! My vote is to encourage them to look within and find out what brings them true inner peace and go with it, no matter the path they choose.
I've never made the connection between the couples that chat till your fingers fall off and never meet to Mormons. I think there are a LOT of scared folks.... just wish I could tell them apart!
Funny thing to me is that no-one ever asks if the couples that are down south are bible bashing baptists and swingers too, just due to their location. Why is it Mormons end up looking like hypocrites when religion is in debate?
*can you tell there are some Mormons in my life I love and will defend with my life?*
Having grown up in Utah, and lived in several other states, we can honestly say that only in Utah would this question be asked. The more frequent lifestyle question would be:
"How do you mix your religious beliefs with your night time activities?"
Is there a religion out there that approves of swinging?
"How do you mix your religious beliefs with your night time activities?"
Is there a religion out there that approves of swinging?
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Actually my love, <u>most</u> women harbor naughty thoughts. Mormon girls just tend to be extremely naive as well. To know what to do, or know not what to do? That is the question... Kisses
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Actually my love, <u>most</u> women harbor naughty thoughts. Mormon girls just tend to be extremely naive as well. To know what to do, or know not what to do? That is the question... Kisses
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We live in the middle of Mormondom and actually like it. We are "recovered Mormon's" (Ex-Mormon's). We have no problem with them at all. Sure some are judgemental etc. but have you ever lived in the Bible belt South? We have. Much the same, just different religions.
Many times the religious right is very vocal, but the "swinging left" is out there in mass and you just have to find the group you prefer wherever you live. Neither group is full of bad people, on the contrary they are both filled with some great people. However, all groups have enough assholes in them that if you let a few people influence your decisions you can end up disliking any group.
We just like to think of ourselves as open to (almost) all groups and types of thinking. While we might sympathize or understand what religious (Mormon in this case) people believe, we choose not to join that group. Also, because many of our friends are of this religion and like to cheat on spouses etc and break many of their other religious rules etc, we don't judge the group as a whole (after all who is perfect? Regardless of religion!). In fact we tell those friends they should get into swinging so they don't cheat but have fun sexual encounters together! It tends to be a lot more fun that way from what we know!
Just some ramblings!
Many times the religious right is very vocal, but the "swinging left" is out there in mass and you just have to find the group you prefer wherever you live. Neither group is full of bad people, on the contrary they are both filled with some great people. However, all groups have enough assholes in them that if you let a few people influence your decisions you can end up disliking any group.
We just like to think of ourselves as open to (almost) all groups and types of thinking. While we might sympathize or understand what religious (Mormon in this case) people believe, we choose not to join that group. Also, because many of our friends are of this religion and like to cheat on spouses etc and break many of their other religious rules etc, we don't judge the group as a whole (after all who is perfect? Regardless of religion!). In fact we tell those friends they should get into swinging so they don't cheat but have fun sexual encounters together! It tends to be a lot more fun that way from what we know!
Just some ramblings!
We live in the middle of Mormondom and actually like it. We are "recovered Mormon's" (Ex-Mormon's). We have no problem with them at all. Sure some are judgemental etc. but have you ever lived in the Bible belt South? We have. Much the same, just different religions.
Many times the religious right is very vocal, but the "swinging left" is out there in mass and you just have to find the group you prefer wherever you live. Neither group is full of bad people, on the contrary they are both filled with some great people. However, all groups have enough assholes in them that if you let a few people influence your decisions you can end up disliking any group.
We just like to think of ourselves as open to (almost) all groups and types of thinking. While we might sympathize or understand what religious (Mormon in this case) people believe, we choose not to join that group. Also, because many of our friends are of this religion and like to cheat on spouses etc and break many of their other religious rules etc, we don't judge the group as a whole (after all who is perfect? Regardless of religion!). In fact we tell those friends they should get into swinging so they don't cheat but have fun sexual encounters together! It tends to be a lot more fun that way from what we know!
Just some ramblings!
Many times the religious right is very vocal, but the "swinging left" is out there in mass and you just have to find the group you prefer wherever you live. Neither group is full of bad people, on the contrary they are both filled with some great people. However, all groups have enough assholes in them that if you let a few people influence your decisions you can end up disliking any group.
We just like to think of ourselves as open to (almost) all groups and types of thinking. While we might sympathize or understand what religious (Mormon in this case) people believe, we choose not to join that group. Also, because many of our friends are of this religion and like to cheat on spouses etc and break many of their other religious rules etc, we don't judge the group as a whole (after all who is perfect? Regardless of religion!). In fact we tell those friends they should get into swinging so they don't cheat but have fun sexual encounters together! It tends to be a lot more fun that way from what we know!
Just some ramblings!
This is kinda on topic, kinda not.....I personally, don't really believe in religion. How can one "be right" when its telling its members that all the other religions out there are wrong??? My thoughts are to live your life, you don't need a religion in your life to tell you what it right and what it wrong; hopefully you can figure that out for yourself. ( ie: cheating=bad, compasion=good)
Although I don't believe in anyone religion, I'm not going to stop my kids from going to church if they want to. Our 4 year old girl some times goes to the LDS church 3 houses up with one of our neighbors. Thats they decision and i'll support them.
You don't have to be "mormon" to be a little slow in this life style...I'm in no hurry. If the other couple is pushy then they can find someone else to "play" with...but if they stick around it will be all the more fun in the end
Just my early morning ramblings
~Mrs. Lookn
Although I don't believe in anyone religion, I'm not going to stop my kids from going to church if they want to. Our 4 year old girl some times goes to the LDS church 3 houses up with one of our neighbors. Thats they decision and i'll support them.
You don't have to be "mormon" to be a little slow in this life style...I'm in no hurry. If the other couple is pushy then they can find someone else to "play" with...but if they stick around it will be all the more fun in the end
Just my early morning ramblings
~Mrs. Lookn
I know of one...maybe two.
Mormons would not be considered active if they are swinging.
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I think you may be correct to some degree. However, it stands to reason that someone that is told <b><i>no</i></b> their whole life, will harbor a stronger desire for something they've never experienced. It's kind of like going to the Ocean for the first time. It's beautiful everytime, just not as beautiful or awe inspiring as the first time.
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I think you may be correct to some degree. However, it stands to reason that someone that is told <b><i>no</i></b> their whole life, will harbor a stronger desire for something they've never experienced. It's kind of like going to the Ocean for the first time. It's beautiful everytime, just not as beautiful or awe inspiring as the first time.
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Actually, there are active Mormons who swing. They just don't follow all the guidelines of the church. It's not that it makes them inactive, just maybe not so good at following doctrine.
I used to be very active. Temple attending, garment wearing, teaching Primary and Relief Society. Yep, that was me.
Then I realized that was not what I truly wanted and I left the church.
I've met a few couples active in the church yet were active swingers.
Ali
I used to be very active. Temple attending, garment wearing, teaching Primary and Relief Society. Yep, that was me.
Then I realized that was not what I truly wanted and I left the church.
I've met a few couples active in the church yet were active swingers.
Ali
And what releigion would that be? :h
Religion of the Almight O
Chapel of our Sisters Coochie
What are your suggestions?
Religion of the Almight O
Chapel of our Sisters Coochie
What are your suggestions?
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Goodgenes posted : "Given that statement, why do people swing AND go to the LDS church? Totally confused by it."
I'm assuming that for many it's massive compartmentalization. I know quite a few LDS who fly under the church's radar. Whether it's drinking, watching R-Rated movies or doing things in the bedroom that the church would frown upon. some have a hard time imagining life without the church as a be-all end-all point of contact for life in general. For a good deal of the people I know it boils down to their fear of losing the church's social network, which may be the *only* social network they are a part of in any real capacity. Then there are those who are LDS in name only. As an example there are people who work at the church office building that are LDS in name and office-work only. They don't attend and they do the church's work as a means to an end (retirement) but their leaders are none the wiser.
Others simply don't think the church has a place in the bedroom even though the church has gone as far as barring oral sex in the 1980's.
--Mr. AG
P.S. The oral sex condemnation was reversed after members started complaining to leadership shortly after their proclamation against it. I personally find it funny that God wouldn't stick to his guns if people complained about his demands.
I'm assuming that for many it's massive compartmentalization. I know quite a few LDS who fly under the church's radar. Whether it's drinking, watching R-Rated movies or doing things in the bedroom that the church would frown upon. some have a hard time imagining life without the church as a be-all end-all point of contact for life in general. For a good deal of the people I know it boils down to their fear of losing the church's social network, which may be the *only* social network they are a part of in any real capacity. Then there are those who are LDS in name only. As an example there are people who work at the church office building that are LDS in name and office-work only. They don't attend and they do the church's work as a means to an end (retirement) but their leaders are none the wiser.
Others simply don't think the church has a place in the bedroom even though the church has gone as far as barring oral sex in the 1980's.
--Mr. AG
P.S. The oral sex condemnation was reversed after members started complaining to leadership shortly after their proclamation against it. I personally find it funny that God wouldn't stick to his guns if people complained about his demands.
Catholics don't recognize passover,
and Jews don't recognize Christmas,
and Mormons don't recognize each other in Mesquite!!(Wendover)
I think Mormons that swing are crazy!!......crazy like a fox!
If you keep in the churches good graces you can reap the benefits, everything from help paying your bills when you fall on hard times, to the support of the entire ward for business owners. And anything in between.
All you have to do is show up on Sunday, they don't care what kind of person you are the rest of the week.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas you see!!
~K~
and Jews don't recognize Christmas,
and Mormons don't recognize each other in Mesquite!!(Wendover)
I think Mormons that swing are crazy!!......crazy like a fox!
If you keep in the churches good graces you can reap the benefits, everything from help paying your bills when you fall on hard times, to the support of the entire ward for business owners. And anything in between.
All you have to do is show up on Sunday, they don't care what kind of person you are the rest of the week.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas you see!!
~K~
They have singles wards, why not swingers wards? :z
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It appears that there are enough swingers that are also believers in a god. Perhaps you should form a more tolerant version to the faith and recruit members. That's pretty much how all the other branches got their start. The believed differently from the "mainstream". Those that believe god or the gods could give a fuck about your sex life should make your own version. Hell you can even write a supplemental to the Original christian bible. If there is such a thing. Anyway, I say do what makes you feel right. If you fuck and it doesn't feel wrong, then fuck. The only people who say it's a "sin" are humans.
<b>AG,</b> That just proves that many religions families usually ignore one of the fundemental principles of "God's Intent" and rob individuals the right of free will until they are away from the grips of their families. People feel so dependant on the church because <i>the church</i> is all they know.
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It appears that there are enough swingers that are also believers in a god. Perhaps you should form a more tolerant version to the faith and recruit members. That's pretty much how all the other branches got their start. The believed differently from the "mainstream". Those that believe god or the gods could give a fuck about your sex life should make your own version. Hell you can even write a supplemental to the Original christian bible. If there is such a thing. Anyway, I say do what makes you feel right. If you fuck and it doesn't feel wrong, then fuck. The only people who say it's a "sin" are humans.
<b>AG,</b> That just proves that many religions families usually ignore one of the fundemental principles of "God's Intent" and rob individuals the right of free will until they are away from the grips of their families. People feel so dependant on the church because <i>the church</i> is all they know.
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JC,
I would be pissed if a Bishops son left a bad taste in my mouth. You just have to find sweeter guys!
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UtHot
I would be pissed if a Bishops son left a bad taste in my mouth. You just have to find sweeter guys!
:-)
UtHot
Well, there sure are a lot of Utah people on this site, seemingly way out of proportion to its relative size and population. The Mormon religion would seem to be a factor, considering it's history of polygamy. A practice, which, by the way, is still prevalent in the state and in others close by.
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Before you do what a lot of individuals do on this site and make presumptuous comments, get to know the history of the website a little. The site was called something else when it started in FL. Rob, the founder of "Swingular" seperated from the co-founder of the original site. He moved to Utah and began marketing it here. <i>That</i> is why it is more prevelant in the two states. Polygamy in the local history has nothing to do with the amount of swingers on this site. It has everything to do with localized marketing efforts. The only people involved in polygamy in Utah are now mainly extreme minority offshoots of the LDS religion, like the FLDS or "Fundementalist Latter Day Saints" Church. They are shunned by the mainstream LDS church. They are the very reason many people today, still attach the word <i>"polygamy"</i> with mormons. I too, once presumed such things about them. After living amongst the mainstream members, I was quickly educated. I wasn't slamming you, it's just that we have a lot of individuals here that would rather presume or assume than take the time to research. It's kinda like people thinking most Texans are ignorant racist rednecks. While there will always be those that are true to the stereotype, it hardly means we should make such presumptions about the majority, when visiting. Hell they still hold KKK rallies in the south. There are lots of pitchforks and torches on swingular LOL!
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Before you do what a lot of individuals do on this site and make presumptuous comments, get to know the history of the website a little. The site was called something else when it started in FL. Rob, the founder of "Swingular" seperated from the co-founder of the original site. He moved to Utah and began marketing it here. <i>That</i> is why it is more prevelant in the two states. Polygamy in the local history has nothing to do with the amount of swingers on this site. It has everything to do with localized marketing efforts. The only people involved in polygamy in Utah are now mainly extreme minority offshoots of the LDS religion, like the FLDS or "Fundementalist Latter Day Saints" Church. They are shunned by the mainstream LDS church. They are the very reason many people today, still attach the word <i>"polygamy"</i> with mormons. I too, once presumed such things about them. After living amongst the mainstream members, I was quickly educated. I wasn't slamming you, it's just that we have a lot of individuals here that would rather presume or assume than take the time to research. It's kinda like people thinking most Texans are ignorant racist rednecks. While there will always be those that are true to the stereotype, it hardly means we should make such presumptions about the majority, when visiting. Hell they still hold KKK rallies in the south. There are lots of pitchforks and torches on swingular LOL!
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-Don-
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What a interesting topic, I have to put in my two cents.
I am from Amesfoort, Holland. I moved to Utah when I was young and grew up in SLC in the winter, returning to Holland some summers. (A unique perspective)
Now with my wife, I have not meet any LDS swingers. But our circle of friends is not LDS ether. But while I was single I meet many Mormon girls that a great interest in me. Some tried to convert me (HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH.... no)
and some had no intention of converting me, although may have used it as an excuse to talk to me.
There are many benifiets for staying in the church, and growing up non-lds can be a lonely affair in Utah.
I think that many pretend to believe, because they need the support of the community, friends, and family.
But many do want they want behind closed door. And I am sure the Internet is a great escape for them as well.
I have been far and wide in this world, and most people are all the same. Yeah they may not be that open but everyone has to get to their own freedom in their own way and own time. So many of them just chat, and disappear when it comes down to meeting.
But in my single days I had girls from the church meet me in private, and well. I used to like to think that is was because I was a hottie. but I think I have come to realize it was them who was hot, and needed release, and trusted me to be quiet about it.
I am sure many think about swinging. But I doubt many would even talk to their spouse about that. The one issue I have with the Church is that they tend to control through fear, and I bet many guys and girls would like to bring up the topic. But fear their spouse will freak and they will be in front of the bishop.
Most be a scary place to be, I am very lucky to have been raised in a very liberal, open, agnostic home.
That upbringing seems to leave so many insecurity's, and doubts about ones self.
anyway sorry to be long winded.
I am from Amesfoort, Holland. I moved to Utah when I was young and grew up in SLC in the winter, returning to Holland some summers. (A unique perspective)
Now with my wife, I have not meet any LDS swingers. But our circle of friends is not LDS ether. But while I was single I meet many Mormon girls that a great interest in me. Some tried to convert me (HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH.... no)
and some had no intention of converting me, although may have used it as an excuse to talk to me.
There are many benifiets for staying in the church, and growing up non-lds can be a lonely affair in Utah.
I think that many pretend to believe, because they need the support of the community, friends, and family.
But many do want they want behind closed door. And I am sure the Internet is a great escape for them as well.
I have been far and wide in this world, and most people are all the same. Yeah they may not be that open but everyone has to get to their own freedom in their own way and own time. So many of them just chat, and disappear when it comes down to meeting.
But in my single days I had girls from the church meet me in private, and well.
I used to like to think that is was because I was a hottie. but I think I have come to realize it was them who was hot, and needed release, and trusted me to be quiet about it. I am sure many think about swinging. But I doubt many would even talk to their spouse about that. The one issue I have with the Church is that they tend to control through fear, and I bet many guys and girls would like to bring up the topic. But fear their spouse will freak and they will be in front of the bishop.
Most be a scary place to be, I am very lucky to have been raised in a very liberal, open, agnostic home.
That upbringing seems to leave so many insecurity's, and doubts about ones self.
anyway sorry to be long winded.
This sight began in Utah that may be why the large Utah influence? But i wonder is every one that lives in Japan Japanese? Why do people try to stereo type everything? Is it insecurity?
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It's an ignorance that we're all guilty of in some part. It's human nature to fear the things we do not understand. We cannot blame them if we are not willing to educate. So, instead of fighting judgment with judgment, we should use enlightenment. That's just my opinion of course.
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It's an ignorance that we're all guilty of in some part. It's human nature to fear the things we do not understand. We cannot blame them if we are not willing to educate. So, instead of fighting judgment with judgment, we should use enlightenment. That's just my opinion of course.
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Wow....this topic is a strange one to have on a swingers site, but I guess people are curious about Mormons in the lifestyle.
We are LDS, and active at that, although we have never been through the temples, and we do not wear garments because we are not ready to meet the requirements
(we could lie and get in, but that to us seems like a bigger sin)
Now...the question how to we reconcile what we do with what we believe?
Well the answer is simple.
We all know when we feel guilty about something, and usually if we feel guilty we need to reconcile ourselves or something in our life. Then perhaps there is something that we need to repent for.
We (my spouse and I) don
We are LDS, and active at that, although we have never been through the temples, and we do not wear garments because we are not ready to meet the requirements
(we could lie and get in, but that to us seems like a bigger sin)
Now...the question how to we reconcile what we do with what we believe?
Well the answer is simple.
We all know when we feel guilty about something, and usually if we feel guilty we need to reconcile ourselves or something in our life. Then perhaps there is something that we need to repent for.
We (my spouse and I) don
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Whether you "feel" it's wrong or not. According to your chosen faith, it is wrong. It's one of the ten commandments. I could care less if you are "sinning" against your religion. I am merely pointing out your misconception of the LDS or and christian faith for the conversation or discussion's sake. Adultry and fornication <u>are</u> sins, according to any christian faith. However, it also says in the bible that it is a human's place to cast judgment. So it really doesn't matter anyway. Anyone that would cast judgment on you, other than god, would be a sinning hypocrite.
For me, I can't do the organized religion thing. As there is no proof of a supreme being or beings that survive my scrutiny, I subscribe to no faith. I feel that I would offend many in a church, if I were to attend. I can't stand hypocrites that judge. If the measure of your sin decides whether you are of a faith, we are all faithless. Are you LDS? Sure... Just as much as your bishop, the Prophet or Joseph fuckin' Smith. They only difference between you and Them... They tried a little harder to either abstain from temptation and sin or hid it. Religions are just big clubs that are ridden with hypocrisy, chronyism and nepotism. As far as I am concerned... you can have that shit.
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Whether you "feel" it's wrong or not. According to your chosen faith, it is wrong. It's one of the ten commandments. I could care less if you are "sinning" against your religion. I am merely pointing out your misconception of the LDS or and christian faith for the conversation or discussion's sake. Adultry and fornication <u>are</u> sins, according to any christian faith. However, it also says in the bible that it is a human's place to cast judgment. So it really doesn't matter anyway. Anyone that would cast judgment on you, other than god, would be a sinning hypocrite.
For me, I can't do the organized religion thing. As there is no proof of a supreme being or beings that survive my scrutiny, I subscribe to no faith. I feel that I would offend many in a church, if I were to attend. I can't stand hypocrites that judge. If the measure of your sin decides whether you are of a faith, we are all faithless. Are you LDS? Sure... Just as much as your bishop, the Prophet or Joseph fuckin' Smith. They only difference between you and Them... They tried a little harder to either abstain from temptation and sin or hid it. Religions are just big clubs that are ridden with hypocrisy, chronyism and nepotism. As far as I am concerned... you can have that shit.
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to each his own, and if we fiind comfort in it then why not? it is not like we are trying to convert anyone.....
Live and let live, we don't judge so don't judge us.
Your kind of an asshole Don...I mean the way you say things is just a little bit offensive.
Live and let live, we don't judge so don't judge us.
Your kind of an asshole Don...I mean the way you say things is just a little bit offensive.
Don
I was a little a hasty in my
I was a little a hasty in my
AA...
Do what we all do and dont listen to Don... he talks out of his ass most of the time and NO ONE on this site gives a fuck what he has to say.. Do what most of us do and ignore him.
Do what we all do and dont listen to Don... he talks out of his ass most of the time and NO ONE on this site gives a fuck what he has to say.. Do what most of us do and ignore him.
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Reread what I wrote. I said I could care less what you do. I am not judging you. I am just saying that; according to the religion, <i>it is</i> a "sin". You cannot argue that. You can use this opportunity to take offense to what I said, or for conversation sake, you can elaborate on your view. I'm not asking for your "justification". As I said <b>repeatedly</b> before, I am not judging anyone, nor am I trying to dictate what is right for them. If you don't want people to say anything about what you said, DON'T FUCKING POST IT! This is a forum, not HOTNCOUPLE'S monologue. I am entitled to give you my opinion. If you don't like it, I don't fucking care. I don't have to justify myself either. Oh and I never once called you a hypocrite. I see you wasted no time in calling me and "asshole" though. Too many of you people have thin skins and take this shit entirely too seriously.
It's a forum folks, you are not going to <i>always</i> like what you read. That is when, you write back with your disagreement. I challenge you to reread my post. You'll find that my post is all about your last sentence.
What I find even funnier, is that you have idiot sycophantic retards like SEXYPOKER69, that that make unfounded remarks about people, seeking nothing but to step in an burp bullshit out of their witless cocksucker and then sink back into whatever pathetic existence they come from. They're the flamboyant chode smokin' spice, that this varitable people stew of a forum needs to keep shit interesting. I for one, would be lost without their whining, crying, bitching, pissing, moaning and most of all the literal nonsensical diarrhea, they are so willing to paint threads with. THANK YOU! THANK YOU SEXPOKER69! You sir are today's witless, sycophantic shit spewer. I picture an oscillating lawn sprinkler. How about you?
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Reread what I wrote. I said I could care less what you do. I am not judging you. I am just saying that; according to the religion, <i>it is</i> a "sin". You cannot argue that. You can use this opportunity to take offense to what I said, or for conversation sake, you can elaborate on your view. I'm not asking for your "justification". As I said <b>repeatedly</b> before, I am not judging anyone, nor am I trying to dictate what is right for them. If you don't want people to say anything about what you said, DON'T FUCKING POST IT! This is a forum, not HOTNCOUPLE'S monologue. I am entitled to give you my opinion. If you don't like it, I don't fucking care. I don't have to justify myself either. Oh and I never once called you a hypocrite. I see you wasted no time in calling me and "asshole" though. Too many of you people have thin skins and take this shit entirely too seriously.
It's a forum folks, you are not going to <i>always</i> like what you read. That is when, you write back with your disagreement. I challenge you to reread my post. You'll find that my post is all about your last sentence.
What I find even funnier, is that you have idiot sycophantic retards like SEXYPOKER69, that that make unfounded remarks about people, seeking nothing but to step in an burp bullshit out of their witless cocksucker and then sink back into whatever pathetic existence they come from. They're the flamboyant chode smokin' spice, that this varitable people stew of a forum needs to keep shit interesting. I for one, would be lost without their whining, crying, bitching, pissing, moaning and most of all the literal nonsensical diarrhea, they are so willing to paint threads with. THANK YOU! THANK YOU SEXPOKER69! You sir are today's witless, sycophantic shit spewer. I picture an oscillating lawn sprinkler. How about you?
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As the quote I posted before clearly shows, a Mormon can't believe the religion is correct AND engage in swinging. It doesn't fit. It's one or the other. Aside from that, living both "lifestyles," they would have to be completely dishonest people. Sounds nuts to me.
Good point GOODGENES...I just want to add, that they'll either be dishonest about either/both parts of their lives, or in complete denial. Either way, it's totally inauthentic in nature and outside of integrity.
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I was just wondering if we were counted as one of the "50".
One of the "50"?
Ya somebody side there was only 50 real swingers in ut. I wanted to know if I was one of the special 50
Ahh...gotcha!
I have a personal "testimony" of the fact that there ARE indeed MORE than 50 real swingers in Utah! I've had a personal witness of this and my bosom burns, and I know this to be true with every fiber of my being...
(Utah mormon-based humor there)
~J~
I have a personal "testimony" of the fact that there ARE indeed MORE than 50 real swingers in Utah! I've had a personal witness of this and my bosom burns, and I know this to be true with every fiber of my being...
(Utah mormon-based humor there)
~J~
Did ya cry? If not it ain't true
We were both raised LDS but we fuck and like to fuck . and like to fuck other people..... FUCK!:z
Ya fucking fuckers
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Right on brother! oh and fuck you too, you fuckin' fucker!
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Right on brother! oh and fuck you too, you fuckin' fucker!
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TIMANDLU...of COURSE I cried...don't you always when the spirit moves upon you??
TA2....you FUCKING HEATHENS!!
TA2....you FUCKING HEATHENS!!
Fuckin A
I just wish the spirit would move us more!
often
Though we are not Mormon, there is probably a high percent here in Utah that are Mormon and in lifestyle than in other states. There are many people from all faiths that do at least explore the lifestyle. Often many find its not for them. I have found Utah to be more open to the Polyamorous lifestyle then other communities. Mayhaps that is because of the polygamist history of the church. I am sure if you went to California you might find a higher percentage of Catholics that are in the lifestyle then here in Utah. It just goes with the territory. We are transplants from California. Have been in Lifestyle since 1993. I can tell you it was a struggle for me at first having been active in the Christian Community as a child to embrace having sexual relations with others after marriage. My views have changed as an adult. I think it varies from relationship to relationship as to what works for them. This lifestyle definately is not for everyone. I often recommend to new commers to start out slow. In California, I often suggested to newbies to go to a club atmosphere where they could watch others and participate with just each other until they felt comfortable about experimenting.Sorry, I covered much more than what the topic was about.
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When you said, <font color="#ff0000"> <i>"Seems to me that you dont really care for them very much and if thats the case why live among them. You too are free to go elsewhere. Seems that they are the ones that came to Utah and established it for themselves."</i></font> Who were you talking to? For me the answer is simple. I never said I don't like mormons. In fact to the contrary, I have several mormon friends. The LDS religion is no different than any other. I am agnostic. I maintain that none of us really know, so this is more of a fascination on my part, than a debate or argument. Again, there is no judgment here, only curiosity.
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The video I attached below is a great series by a guy named Pat Condell. Be sure to check out others by him.
http://www.liveleak.com/browse?user=patcondell
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When you said, <font color="#ff0000"> <i>"Seems to me that you dont really care for them very much and if thats the case why live among them. You too are free to go elsewhere. Seems that they are the ones that came to Utah and established it for themselves."</i></font> Who were you talking to? For me the answer is simple. I never said I don't like mormons. In fact to the contrary, I have several mormon friends. The LDS religion is no different than any other. I am agnostic. I maintain that none of us really know, so this is more of a fascination on my part, than a debate or argument. Again, there is no judgment here, only curiosity.
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The video I attached below is a great series by a guy named Pat Condell. Be sure to check out others by him.
http://www.liveleak.com/browse?user=patcondell
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-Don-
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They didn't come to Utah to establish it for themselves, as you put it. They came because they were hunted like dogs in the street, and there was a bounty on their heads, in most every state in the union, as well as laws on the books making it legal to hunt Mormons. Yes, I would say they were covering there asses more than anything. Utah, hell i like it they they are nice folks, and look out for there own. That is a lot more then i can say for other religons i have studied, and hell those little Mormon girls are quite hot.
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That just proves how intolerant and fuckin retarded the rest of the "God Fearing" idiots of other religions were back then. If you don't swallow the orthodox bullshit they sell in schools and dig a little deeper, you will find the real history. You gotta love the idiots that came up with a law like that. Makes me proud to be an American. If what you said was true, I bet they did come here to settle the area to get away from the intolerant fucks. Got to respect that. After all, the mainstream christians of the time had such a noble past with witch burnings and other forms of oppression.
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That just proves how intolerant and fuckin retarded the rest of the "God Fearing" idiots of other religions were back then. If you don't swallow the orthodox bullshit they sell in schools and dig a little deeper, you will find the real history. You gotta love the idiots that came up with a law like that. Makes me proud to be an American. If what you said was true, I bet they did come here to settle the area to get away from the intolerant fucks. Got to respect that. After all, the mainstream christians of the time had such a noble past with witch burnings and other forms of oppression.
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OK OK i say who cares what religion you are. We are all dirty little sluts so lets get to fucking for FUCKS sakes. :z
Really the only reason I even responded is because the question was asked initially.
It is my point of view, based on the life I was dealt. I accept that there are many different paths in life, each of us start in a totally different place. Some are born poor, some rich, different genders, colors, born into different religions and on and on. The point is that for us this is right. But it is not right for everyone else, does that mean everyone else is hell bound? Nope. I
It is my point of view, based on the life I was dealt. I accept that there are many different paths in life, each of us start in a totally different place. Some are born poor, some rich, different genders, colors, born into different religions and on and on. The point is that for us this is right. But it is not right for everyone else, does that mean everyone else is hell bound? Nope. I
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Fuck you, your judgments and labels. If you don't want people to give their opinions, don't post in a public forum. You say I sound like a dumb shit. I would say you are "dumb shit" personified.
I never said I thought anything was "wrong" about what you chose for yourself. I only pointed out that your dogma <i>does</i> say it's wrong. I was simply trying to get you to elaborate as to your paradoxical life choice. You made this ugly not I. It is you that is trying to stifle me, not I, you. Try not being such a thin skinned cry-baby, hell-bent on finding ways to be offended. I told you repeatedly that I was not attacking your choices. If you are too dense to see that, that is your fuckin problem, not mine. Go cry somewhere else.
<b>Everyone, save numb nuts,</b> I wonder if this idiot is the type that would post ads in the newspaper, trying to sell his car and then cries when he gets phone calls about it. I mean seriously folks. Who posts in a public forum and then expects everyone to shut up and ignore him? Man, there are some stupid fuckin' people on this site.
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Fuck you, your judgments and labels. If you don't want people to give their opinions, don't post in a public forum. You say I sound like a dumb shit. I would say you are "dumb shit" personified.
I never said I thought anything was "wrong" about what you chose for yourself. I only pointed out that your dogma <i>does</i> say it's wrong. I was simply trying to get you to elaborate as to your paradoxical life choice. You made this ugly not I. It is you that is trying to stifle me, not I, you. Try not being such a thin skinned cry-baby, hell-bent on finding ways to be offended. I told you repeatedly that I was not attacking your choices. If you are too dense to see that, that is your fuckin problem, not mine. Go cry somewhere else.
<b>Everyone, save numb nuts,</b> I wonder if this idiot is the type that would post ads in the newspaper, trying to sell his car and then cries when he gets phone calls about it. I mean seriously folks. Who posts in a public forum and then expects everyone to shut up and ignore him? Man, there are some stupid fuckin' people on this site.
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Don,
You crack me up.
B
You crack me up.
B
Honestly you guys, everyone on this site that said marriage vows is breaking them when they swing, religion aside. Didn't you all promise something along the lines of "Forsaking all others"?
Really do any of us have a right to judge anyone? I'm sure most of us have something that someone could drudge up if they really wanted.
This is why I believe that it is poor tact to talk religion socially, leave that for your first date.
~K~
Really do any of us have a right to judge anyone? I'm sure most of us have something that someone could drudge up if they really wanted.
This is why I believe that it is poor tact to talk religion socially, leave that for your first date.
~K~
Show me what someone considers "sacred" and I'll show you the subject that person doesn't want explored.
That's why we can't talk about religion.
Anyway, back to cleveland steamering each others' spouses...
That's why we can't talk about religion.
Anyway, back to cleveland steamering each others' spouses...
As Rodney King once said. . . "Can't we all just get along?"
Peace N Love Peeps
Jim
Peace N Love Peeps
Jim
i agree with ta and lets just fuck its alot more fun, what say ye
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The thing is... I emphatically stated several times that it had nothing to do with judgment and everything to do with curiosity. As an agnostic person, I am unbiased in such matters. The only reasons that someone would be <i>taking offense</i> to what I said are... they're misunderstanding what I said, playing the "victim" role or not bothering to read posts in their entirety. Whatever the reason, it is their responsibility to reread the thread, so that any misunderstandings can be cleared up. I have made my intentions clear. If there is a problem beyond what I've said, it's because they're making it so.
I also disagree with the "can't talk religion" thing. If we were all trully open-minded. We could discuss anything. We could set aside our bias, ignorance, judgment and presumptiousness and discuss it with the intent of learning about eachother. Yes, I know that were are all afflicted with these traits to some degree. I just think that some are more than others.
That is what's so cool about a public forum. We can enlighten each other. I still maintain that if you don't like what people say, ignore it. I also maintain that I will say what the hell I want and when I want. The most that will happen to me is that I will be removed from the site. Then I would have to ask myself, do I really want to be a part of a site that would stifle my free speech while claiming it supported it? Until that happens, I will give my opinion whether people like or agree with what I have to say or not. Hell, I have to listen to them. They can listen to me.
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The thing is... I emphatically stated several times that it had nothing to do with judgment and everything to do with curiosity. As an agnostic person, I am unbiased in such matters. The only reasons that someone would be <i>taking offense</i> to what I said are... they're misunderstanding what I said, playing the "victim" role or not bothering to read posts in their entirety. Whatever the reason, it is their responsibility to reread the thread, so that any misunderstandings can be cleared up. I have made my intentions clear. If there is a problem beyond what I've said, it's because they're making it so.
I also disagree with the "can't talk religion" thing. If we were all trully open-minded. We could discuss anything. We could set aside our bias, ignorance, judgment and presumptiousness and discuss it with the intent of learning about eachother. Yes, I know that were are all afflicted with these traits to some degree. I just think that some are more than others.
That is what's so cool about a public forum. We can enlighten each other. I still maintain that if you don't like what people say, ignore it. I also maintain that I will say what the hell I want and when I want. The most that will happen to me is that I will be removed from the site. Then I would have to ask myself, do I really want to be a part of a site that would stifle my free speech while claiming it supported it? Until that happens, I will give my opinion whether people like or agree with what I have to say or not. Hell, I have to listen to them. They can listen to me.
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I/we find it amazing how even ex-Mormons explain away the treachery. Some say its no different than this or that. Bull.
What "church" has hundreds and hundreds of shadow corporations to protect Millions and Millions of dollars of daily profit/income from taxation? What other religion brainwashes people to actually think they can be Gods and get their own planets if they wear magic undies, pay 10%, and follow a thousand rules. Explain D&C 132. Explain "Blood Atonement." Explain how Black people get to be Celestial Kingdom servants (Brigham Young).
READ BOOKS: The God Makers, An American Fraud, How I left the Mormons and found my faith (Martha Beck)...to name a few...
Read and open thine eyes.
One commenter was right, it sure is different here. Like...no shit!
What "church" has hundreds and hundreds of shadow corporations to protect Millions and Millions of dollars of daily profit/income from taxation? What other religion brainwashes people to actually think they can be Gods and get their own planets if they wear magic undies, pay 10%, and follow a thousand rules. Explain D&C 132. Explain "Blood Atonement." Explain how Black people get to be Celestial Kingdom servants (Brigham Young).
READ BOOKS: The God Makers, An American Fraud, How I left the Mormons and found my faith (Martha Beck)...to name a few...
Read and open thine eyes.
One commenter was right, it sure is different here. Like...no shit!
We love it here! Our experience is that everyone on the planet, is dealing with some level of cognitive dissonance, due to an allegiance to someone or something, that really does not make sense. People under the yoke of someone telling them what the should think, about everything, who have that great liberating epiphany, often become some of the most cognitively flexible people on the planet, in our experience. That great epiphany often leads to a period of anger, followed by an increase in empathy for their fellow humans. Labels lose their power! Some of the most accepting and compassionate people we have met live here in Utah. Some of them swing!
You have to look through the ideal of religion based monogamy. Men are to marry to produce children. Women are to raise the children. Now in many different cultures sex is viewed different. People think Americans are over sexed but maybe it's just the way people view it. I just notice that in this state is viewed as problematic then just someone's choice. Hey, it's our choice, let us live how we want to.
Dammit! Who brought this thread back?!!?
Evil, we agree. We want to believe that therr is a gene or a doctorine in the BoM that creates hot swingers, but this is a dead thread. Mormons are no more likely to be swingers than anyone else.
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Dammit! Who brought this thread back?!!?
Evil, It's call resurrection, and unlike people, threads don't have to wait for the return of J.C. to receive it.....
Evil, my thoughts too... wbo was bored enough to go back to a thread last posted on in 2007? Hahahaha
All this talk about religion has made us, Ms. Evil and I, totes horny and we would like to fuck a bunch of Mormons tonight. Please send a copy of your temple recommend, a full body pic (with or without garments on) and, if don't mind, a copy of your patriarchal blessing. We'll furnish the magic olive oil for lube and have decorated our house with LOTS of pics of temples and Jesus (the one that looks like a young Obi-Wan Kenobi, not the swarthy ones that are becoming more popular these days). BYOB (bring your own Book of Mormon).
The Evildoers
The Evildoers
EVILDOERS wrote:
All this talk about religion has made us, Ms. Evil and I, totes horny and we would like to fuck a bunch of Mormons tonight. Please send a copy of your temple recommend, a full body pic (with or without garments on) and, if don't mind, a copy of your patriarchal blessing. We'll furnish the magic olive oil for lube and have decorated our house with LOTS of pics of temples and Jesus (the one that looks like a young Obi-Wan Kenobi, not the swarthy ones that are becoming more popular these days). BYOB (bring your own Book of Mormon).
The Evildoers
I guess we are out, I can't get you a copy of my patriarchal blessing, too much info in there about when J.C. is coming back and the "off the chain" bender he's planning for him and I and a few other special peeps....... But I've already said too much.
STOPHER29 wrote:EVILDOERS wrote:
All this talk about religion has made us, Ms. Evil and I, totes horny and we would like to fuck a bunch of Mormons tonight. Please send a copy of your temple recommend, a full body pic (with or without garments on) and, if don't mind, a copy of your patriarchal blessing. We'll furnish the magic olive oil for lube and have decorated our house with LOTS of pics of temples and Jesus (the one that looks like a young Obi-Wan Kenobi, not the swarthy ones that are becoming more popular these days). BYOB (bring your own Book of Mormon).
The Evildoers
I guess we are out, I can't get you a copy of my patriarchal blessing, too much info in there about when J.C. is coming back and the "off the chain" bender he's planning for him and I and a few other special peeps....... But I've already said too much.
Little known fact. Most P.B.'s are pretty generic, especially the parts about when "He" is coming back. As an amateur bookie I'm currently taking bets on when (odds as of this morning are 1,000,000 to one that it will be in the next ten thousand years or so) and if He does return, where He will go first. It's 2 to 1 that Pioneer Park will be His first stopping off point and 100:1 that He'll hit Mr. Mac's (right after going for a haircut and shave) for a new three-piece suit to wear to have brunch with the brethren at the Church Office Bldg.. PLACE YOUR BETS!
EVILDOERS wrote:STOPHER29 wrote:
[quote=EVILDOERS]All this talk about religion has made us, Ms. Evil and I, totes horny and we would like to fuck a bunch of Mormons tonight. Please send a copy of your temple recommend, a full body pic (with or without garments on) and, if don't mind, a copy of your patriarchal blessing. We'll furnish the magic olive oil for lube and have decorated our house with LOTS of pics of temples and Jesus (the one that looks like a young Obi-Wan Kenobi, not the swarthy ones that are becoming more popular these days). BYOB (bring your own Book of Mormon).
The Evildoers
I guess we are out, I can't get you a copy of my patriarchal blessing, too much info in there about when J.C. is coming back and the "off the chain" bender he's planning for him and I and a few other special peeps....... But I've already said too much.
Little known fact. Most P.B.'s are pretty generic, especially the parts about when "He" is coming back. As an amateur bookie I'm currently taking bets on when (odds as of this morning are 1,000,000 to one that it will be in the next ten thousand years or so) and if He does return, where He will go first. It's 2 to 1 that Pioneer Park will be His first stopping off point and 100:1 that He'll hit Mr. Mac's (right after going for a haircut and shave) for a new three-piece suit to wear to have brunch with the brethren at the Church Office Bldg.. PLACE YOUR BETS!
[/quote]With all the global warming going on, my bet is on the swimming pool at the local rec center.
(I've been saying for years that after I die, you will find me chillin with J.C. & H.F. on lounge chairs by the pool in my Jams swim suit and Rayban sunglasses sipping a Strawberry Colada discussing black holes and alien visitors to Earth.)
We were at a semi formal event Saturday. Mrs. Delicious was in a very nice dress and I was in a nice suit, starched shirt and tie. My shirt was light gray, so not exactly white. Mrs. Delicious shirt did have a bit of a sleeve. We looked like some of the couples you see going in the temples. We felt oh soooo hot! We figured we would post the pictures in our profile. Maybe they are too hot for the Public album. So we posted them in a custom album, with settings as hidden from Guest or Trial members but not private. So if you are a Platinum member, you should be able to find and see the album in the custom album drop down box. But maybe not. Not sure that is how the site actually works. It seems it should be that way, but maybe it's not. Swinger cognitive dissonance, means complying without complaining.
Ok, I have set back long enough. I thought that the swinger community excepted people for who they are, wether its sexual orientaion, colorof skin, size, age, transgender, and the religion they attend or not attend. We have meet a lot of people over the last couple years and so far we have not come across judgemental people. We feel that you meet somebody and chat, if there’s an agreement that all of you have common interests, then you meet, and if there’s a connection then all of you decide if comfortable, then sex is an option or not. For those of you who get pissed of for mormons being judgmental and then you turn around and judge them, then I say p**s off, we probably wont get along. Live and let live!!!
COUPLEFORFUN4041 wrote:
Ok, I have set back long enough. I thought that the swinger community excepted people for who they are, wether its sexual orientaion, colorof skin, size, age, transgender, and the religion they attend or not attend. We have meet a lot of people over the last couple years and so far we have not come across judgemental people. We feel that you meet somebody and chat, if there’s an agreement that all of you have common interests, then you meet, and if there’s a connection then all of you decide if comfortable, then sex is an option or not. For those of you who get pissed of for mormons being judgmental and then you turn around and judge them, then I say p**s off, we probably wont get along. Live and let live!!!
Okay speaking plainly, many of us have been Mormons. Reading your comment I must say I do feel guilty, because I in fact do have a lot of Mormon friends. I really do not want to offend them. Very, very few people in most religions believe all the doctrine that their religion teaches. People are all individuals. I should not assume that all swingers, are not believers. Several people in this and other threads have mentioned that a lot Mormons, or Utahans, are good looking people. Hence the jokes about how hot they are. The pictures we are in where we are dressed up, and could pass for temple attendees, we look pretty darn good, better than we normally do! My out of state friends and family always, always, always mention it, when they visit. Mormons are quite often really good looking people. They are frequently very friendly people. We are Irish and visit Ireland from time to time, and in the Republic of Ireland, most everyone there knows quite a bit about Catholicism. There are a few people who are really angry at the Catholic Church there, much like here, but there are way more who albeit are no longer believers, still sort of hold something about their experiences close to their hearts. The kidding around is perhaps part of the way people cope with the loss of their religious beliefs, and sometimes some of their family and friends, once they announce they are no longer believers.
I am sincerely sorry for offending you, or anyone for that matter.