Over the years, there has been an ongoing debate on how couples can find reliable single men for fun. Discussions about a ratings system or even a no-show button have come up but the argument that such systems can be abused always comes up. A simpler system that only shows positive reviews has been talked about but then the argument that the single male could end up looking dirty and like a slut for sleeping with too many couples always comes up.
It seems like no matter what idea is presented, there is a negative argument that prevents us from creating a solution. So we’ve just left well enough alone.
But we continue to get feedback from single men and couples daily asking us to do something about this. So we are trying to come up with ways to create a delicate balance between a useful feature without too much room for abuse.
One idea we have come up with is a new feature/section similar to booty calls/meet ups. Any male, not just single males, could add themselves to the ‘Male Market’ which would let other members know that they are available for meeting up. ( We had to come up with a name so don’t knock it 🙂). By signing up, they are opting in to allowing feedback from any member that contacts them through the market. The feedback will be 3 simple questions such as ‘No Show’, ‘Looks Like Their Photo’, and ‘Respectful.’ The feedback would be time limited to either 6 months or something like that so that the issue with looking like a slut is somewhat resolved and fresh feedback is always available.
Couples will be able to search and find males within the market and contact them at any time as long as the male keeps their listing active. Also, a male will be able to set their availability to let couples know they are available in the near future.
Males will be required to upload a recent photo of themselves every 3 months to use this new feature as well.
This is just an idea at the moment and I’m sure it could use some work so we wanted to get your feedback and hear your ideas.
What do you think?
It seems like no matter what idea is presented, there is a negative argument that prevents us from creating a solution. So we’ve just left well enough alone.
But we continue to get feedback from single men and couples daily asking us to do something about this. So we are trying to come up with ways to create a delicate balance between a useful feature without too much room for abuse.
One idea we have come up with is a new feature/section similar to booty calls/meet ups. Any male, not just single males, could add themselves to the ‘Male Market’ which would let other members know that they are available for meeting up. ( We had to come up with a name so don’t knock it 🙂). By signing up, they are opting in to allowing feedback from any member that contacts them through the market. The feedback will be 3 simple questions such as ‘No Show’, ‘Looks Like Their Photo’, and ‘Respectful.’ The feedback would be time limited to either 6 months or something like that so that the issue with looking like a slut is somewhat resolved and fresh feedback is always available.
Couples will be able to search and find males within the market and contact them at any time as long as the male keeps their listing active. Also, a male will be able to set their availability to let couples know they are available in the near future.
Males will be required to upload a recent photo of themselves every 3 months to use this new feature as well.
This is just an idea at the moment and I’m sure it could use some work so we wanted to get your feedback and hear your ideas.
What do you think?
Sounds good to me
being new here I think the “single male” puts me in a very interesting category mostly because of the actions or inactions of other single male.. so yeah don’t know if my opinion was needed but I thought I’d let you know my thoughts. A quick glance makes it seem like yet another hurdle but after a careful read it seem more like a stepping stone. 👌🏿
being new here I think the “single male” puts me in a very interesting category mostly because of the actions or inactions of other single male.. so yeah don’t know if my opinion was needed but I thought I’d let you know my thoughts. A quick glance makes it seem like yet another hurdle but after a careful read it seem more like a stepping stone. 👌🏿The nice thing about this is that it is opt-in, so for those males who feel this is a hurdle don't have to participate. Also, the feedback will not show up on the members profile so couples would have to use this feature to find out more about the male if they are participating.
Another feature we could apply is categories that both the couple and male are interested in such as double vaginal/anal, gang bangs, play alone, cuckold, bi status, etc... And even time of day such as morning, lunch, day, night, late hours.
We could keep these things hidden but allow couples to search based on these items.
We could keep these things hidden but allow couples to search based on these items.
This actually sounds like a really helpful and neat idea! I support it!
So far, so good.
I'll keep it simple. Yes please!
I rarely visit here anymore 'cause I've just had better luck meeting guys in clubs and just keeping a couple of 'em for long term play buddies. Dang military took one of my currents away geographically, and exclusive marriage took another. So, being on the prowl again, such a feature could be useful for a randy married girl needing a new male friend on the side!
I rarely visit here anymore 'cause I've just had better luck meeting guys in clubs and just keeping a couple of 'em for long term play buddies. Dang military took one of my currents away geographically, and exclusive marriage took another. So, being on the prowl again, such a feature could be useful for a randy married girl needing a new male friend on the side!
Sounds good to us!
sounds like a great idea. But I'm not sure why you care if someone has been seen as having a ton of partners? Are people in swinging worried about looking slutty or being with someone who's experienced?
Sounds like a great idea.
JEFFSMITH1972 wrote:And this is why people want “exclusive FWB”. You make it sound like Swinging Single Male is a career. I probably sound like a kiss-ass right now but I am currently on hibernation after my first and only “activity”. I am probably very inexperienced and now that you’ve caught my attention.. what’s the yardstick to measure levels experience? Years in service? Yearly Hours of sex? Number of Cums? There’s so much numbers of this and numbers of that.. Certificate of Merit? Certified Player? PhD in Swinging? If I said “oh you can be with 1 person 100 and be more experienced than someone who’s been with 100 people 1 time each” you’ll probably say everybody knows that, Yet it seems like that didn’t cross your mind. If I was buying a book, 25,000- 5 Stars sounds Awesome BUT I don’t think if I was looking partner I’ll say 250 5-Star review is awesome. Well now that we are talking about it, you are single male and if follow your thought pattern you’d rather marry someone who has been divorced 10 times (experience with multiple marriages) finally, edit your username make it jeffsmith1972-sleptwith800women.
sounds like a great idea. But I'm not sure why you care if someone has been seen as having a ton of partners? Are people in swinging worried about looking slutty or being with someone who's experienced?
Note: This is not a confrontation or Argument but rather it’s more like a pundit-like response and I am interested in your reply if youll be so kind.
Great start, we'd use it. A rating system would be a good tool.
massageBBCguy wrote:JEFFSMITH1972 wrote:And this is why people want “exclusive FWB”. You make it sound like Swinging Single Male is a career. I probably sound like a kiss-ass right now but I am currently on hibernation after my first and only “activity”. I am probably very inexperienced and now that you’ve caught my attention.. what’s the yardstick to measure levels experience? Years in service? Yearly Hours of sex? Number of Cums? There’s so much numbers of this and numbers of that.. Certificate of Merit? Certified Player? PhD in Swinging? If I said “oh you can be with 1 person 100 and be more experienced than someone who’s been with 100 people 1 time each” you’ll probably say everybody knows that, Yet it seems like that didn’t cross your mind. If I was buying a book, 25,000- 5 Stars sounds Awesome BUT I don’t think if I was looking partner I’ll say 250 5-Star review is awesome. Well now that we are talking about it, you are single male and if follow your thought pattern you’d rather marry someone who has been divorced 10 times (experience with multiple marriages) finally, edit your username make it jeffsmith1972-sleptwith800women.
sounds like a great idea. But I'm not sure why you care if someone has been seen as having a ton of partners? Are people in swinging worried about looking slutty or being with someone who's experienced?
Note: This is not a confrontation or Argument but rather it’s more like a pundit-like response and I am interested in your reply if youll be so kind.
“They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds.”
Winston Churchill
As for the Administrator's idea, it could be helpful. A button that indicates that it has been discovered by another couple that the man is actually married would be helpful.
Now I really need somebody to help me understand this.. what is the BRIGHT-LINE when it comes to slutty males and/or experienced.
massageBBCguy wrote:
Now I really need somebody to help me understand this.. what is the BRIGHT-LINE when it comes to slutty males and/or experienced.
Not sure how is it applied to single males but Bright-Line rule is defined as follows:
"A bright-line rule (or bright-line test) is a clearly defined rule or standard, composed of objective factors, which leaves little or no room for varying interpretation. The purpose of a bright-line rule is to produce predictable and consistent results in its application. The term "bright-line" in this sense generally occurs in a legal context."
Wikipedia
"Providing an unambiguous criterion or guideline especially in law. A bright-line distinction"
Merriam Webster
A man, woman or couple can have quite a bit of experience and still behave ethically. Experience does not equate a lack of judgment, taste or selectivity. We have discovered that the only times we together or individually have ever been referred to as slutty, or sluts, in a derogatory sense, is when we let someone know, who initiated contact with us, that we were not interested.
Sluts a loaded word. There is a dated but popular book "The Ethical Slut" written by Janet W. Hardy. It may be worth your review. It is a swinging lifestyle classic.
Sluts a loaded word. There is a dated but popular book "The Ethical Slut" written by Janet W. Hardy. It may be worth your review. It is a swinging lifestyle classic.
DELICIOUSLYWET wrote:massageBBCguy wrote:
Now I really need somebody to help me understand this.. what is the BRIGHT-LINE when it comes to slutty males and/or experienced.
Not sure how is it applied to single males but Bright-Line rule is defined as follows:
"A bright-line rule (or bright-line test) is a clearly defined rule or standard, composed of objective factors, which leaves little or no room for varying interpretation. The purpose of a bright-line rule is to produce predictable and consistent results in its application. The term "bright-line" in this sense generally occurs in a legal context."
Wikipedia
"Providing an unambiguous criterion or guideline especially in law. A bright-line distinction"
Merriam Webster
Bright line in slutty male should say something like a guy who hook up this much (insert number) is a slut, so that number inserted becomes the threshold, anything above that number is a slut and below is “experienced” with sex-miles. So is there a bright-line?
No, the idea is kind of self defeating. There are men who are so loathsome, dishonest and clueless in their attitude, behavior and lack of understanding toward women, that most ladies will avoid them like the plague. These guys might do anything, say anything to have sex. They probably have very little success. Does their lack of success make them ethical? There are gentlemen, who are honest giving and caring sorts, who are so charming and sexy that women are anxious to be intimate with them. Are they less than ethical, because they accepted an invitation from a certain number of ladies over a certain time frame? What is the number? What is the time frame? What is important, the quality of the gentleman or the quantity of his experience? Inexperienced or experienced, he can be a giving and fulfilling lover or not.
He is who he is at the moment he is with the lady. What they share and how they connect is what will make the experience wonderful, or a misadventure.
He is who he is at the moment he is with the lady. What they share and how they connect is what will make the experience wonderful, or a misadventure.
I like...curious though, since I'm a more seasoned Bachelor I don't get-a-round a lot...are Singles Males more guilty of not posting reasonably current photos than the other category's ?
I like Your idea ... sounds like Me, Doable !!!
I like Your idea ... sounds like Me, Doable !!!
We support this idea 110%! It sounds awesome.
massageBBCguy wrote:JEFFSMITH1972 wrote:
sounds like a great idea. But I'm not sure why you care if someone has been seen as having a ton of partners? Are people in swinging worried about looking slutty or being with someone who's experienced?
Note: This is not a confrontation or Argument but rather it’s more like a pundit-like response and I am interested in your reply if youll be so kind.
I just asked a question. You got so much about me wrong, no point in rebutting.
We like this idea. Good single guys are really hard to find and we hate weeding through the bullshit so anything is better than the way it is now
We think it's a good idea too! And we like the extra filtering for specifics being an option so people can match up what kind of single male they are looking for: MFM/gang bang/cuckold/etc. I think the 6 month expiration is good too. Good ideas admins!
P.S. to all the single males in this thread, before we get swarmed with friend requests, we aren't looking for single males
Mr. Exploring plays alone as well though haha
P.S. to all the single males in this thread, before we get swarmed with friend requests, we aren't looking for single males
Mr. Exploring plays alone as well though haha🤦🏿♂️ let’s tone down the Rhetoric.. some guys wish they were “single males”. I’ve been wondering how we got to this point were single male just sounds gross. Lol. Maybe sometime in the future.. someone should start a new hot topic calling out some single males and what they did..
I think this is a fantastic idea! It would help alleviate some of the initial time effort on both sides - as in not wasting it. While I am one of the greatest single male advocates, I've had three no-shows in the past two months and it's more annoying than anything - I could have been taking a nap instead. I do keep my own personal list of 'bug-a-boos' (no shows, married parading around as single, people who only talk using abbreviations) for when they forget who I am and try hitting me up again. Ha! So it'd be nice to have some kind of reliable way find what you're looking for and a reasonable idea of what you're getting.
I would almost suggest that the men who opt in must be verified as well and extending the market idea to include single females... but both of those ideas may have their own set of problems.
I would almost suggest that the men who opt in must be verified as well and extending the market idea to include single females... but both of those ideas may have their own set of problems.
ever_ashes wrote:Verified Single male? Only a tiny percentage of single males are verified, well hmmm very very tiny I’ll say.. I used to think people can verify through email but it seems like that’s not the case anymore.. I guess they’ll have to come up with a new kind of verification process
I think this is a fantastic idea! It would help alleviate some of the initial time effort on both sides - as in not wasting it. While I am one of the greatest single male advocates, I've had three no-shows in the past two months and it's more annoying than anything - I could have been taking a nap instead. I do keep my own personal list of 'bug-a-boos' (no shows, married parading around as single, people who only talk using abbreviations) for when they forget who I am and try hitting me up again. Ha! So it'd be nice to have some kind of reliable way find what you're looking for and a reasonable idea of what you're getting.
I would almost suggest that the men who opt in must be verified as well and extending the market idea to include single females... but both of those ideas may have their own set of problems.
Yes please
I like this idea. It's a nice compromise and I'd be opting into this feature should you make it available.
massageBBCguy wrote:
Verified Single male? Only a tiny percentage of single males are verified, well hmmm very very tiny I’ll say.. I used to think people can verify through email but it seems like that’s not the case anymore.. I guess they’ll have to come up with a new kind of verification process
You are absolutely correct. I think it used to be that you could only get verified at an event or gathering that an admin was also attending. An improved verification process and a little effort from people to get verified wouldn't be a bad thing. If the admins read this, I volunteer to help verify people outside of events.
Sounds like a good plan.
BigCockGreek wrote:. Lol. I am trying not to laugh but you just cracked me up. You seem a little upset. Are you?
[quote=massageBBCguy] I dont get it. I have hit up many couples and single females and rarely get a reply. I get flaked on by the few and one in particular just wanted a one and done. It seems to me being a single horny male that is truly available and ready to play that if this is an issue I would be getting more responses. But not once has anyone hit me up first and over 90% of the profiles I contact never reply. So why the need? If anyone sees this, I am ready and willing and horny as fuck.
Ok, so some thoughts. Maybe a less pretentious screen name? If this fits you..... But we digress. If you are not a flake, congratulations and thank you. But nevertheless the entire swinging community is FLOODED with flake single males, so unfortunately, you few who are not suffer the plight.
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massageBBCguy wrote:
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Can't really see the Emoji, but it looks funny!
massageBBCguy wrote:
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Can't really see the Emoji, but it looks funny!
WTFBICPL wrote:lol. I know right? I had to zoom in myself lol.massageBBCguy wrote:
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Can't really see the Emoji, but it looks funny!
I opt in!
Verified Single male? Only a tiny percentage of single males are verified, well hmmm very very tiny I’ll say.. I used to think people can verify through email but it seems like that’s not the case anymore.. I guess they’ll have to come up with a new kind of verification process
We do not verify single males, It's only for couples and single females.. You have to remember, the verification program is not a 'character' verification program or 'prove how you look' program. It's just a simple program that says a couple is really a couple, or a single female is really a single female. Nobody wants to fake being a single male, they already have a hard time as it is, thus this idea.
And yes, we still do REAL verification via email: [email protected]
We love this idea. Finding a single male is harder than you think.
Is this going to be a real thing?
TEASIN wrote:
Is this going to be a real thing?
After we go through the feedback period, if the consensus remains positive, we will be adding this feature to our roadmap.
It has to be an improvement over what we got now we vote Yay.
We prefer singles but it can be such a pain in the ass that we just say screw it (pun intended ) a decent steady M or F would be nice but.... we don't live in that world now do we😉
We prefer singles but it can be such a pain in the ass that we just say screw it (pun intended ) a decent steady M or F would be nice but.... we don't live in that world now do we😉
Like always I start my opinion with LOL.
SO if you are on here and still having a hard time finding single males then I have two candid suggestions
1. Do your due deligence (with a Good Faith effort)
2. Get a 3D-Printer (so you can print your perfect single male)
I am not SHEMAR MOORE as a matter of fact, I have pot-belly BUT I have met some Queens here that will make Will Smith do a re-mix of “1000 kisses” boy! If we were in California I’ll be asking “Are you a Star?” YET we have SOME couple here who want Single Males to do the Catwalk or maybe auctionblock so they can do some bidding. If you look around on here and still can’t find a Quality Single Male.. you really do need a 3D-Printer. As for me? LOL If I sound like I am having the time of my life on here? That’s because I AM and WOW. Lol. Again WOW. Lol
Probably will be the first single male here to say.. Not making new (play) friends at this time because some QUEENs have ruined it for me. WOW.. Thanks Swingular!!!
SO if you are on here and still having a hard time finding single males then I have two candid suggestions
1. Do your due deligence (with a Good Faith effort)
2. Get a 3D-Printer (so you can print your perfect single male)
I am not SHEMAR MOORE as a matter of fact, I have pot-belly BUT I have met some Queens here that will make Will Smith do a re-mix of “1000 kisses” boy! If we were in California I’ll be asking “Are you a Star?” YET we have SOME couple here who want Single Males to do the Catwalk or maybe auctionblock so they can do some bidding. If you look around on here and still can’t find a Quality Single Male.. you really do need a 3D-Printer. As for me? LOL If I sound like I am having the time of my life on here? That’s because I AM and WOW. Lol. Again WOW. Lol
Probably will be the first single male here to say.. Not making new (play) friends at this time because some QUEENs have ruined it for me. WOW.. Thanks Swingular!!!
We think it’s a great idea. Finding an appropriate, (for us), single male, or , two , or three is difficult to do.
I would opt-“in”. Haha!
I would like the opportunity to block single males except select few that we choose. I get so tired of single males messaging us
What is the actual "Market" for single males? It looks to me like there are very few couples looking for single males and even fewer who are open to playing separately. The other question is: is a husband with a hall pass (a real one) or one that can play separately from their spouse considered a single male or is it just someone who does not have a partner? Are those two looked at differently? Asking for a friend?
SOME profiles say “single females and couples” Because they know better. Lol You add “single males” and you’ll get flooded.. so if that’s what you referring to then that answers Part 1 of your reply.
A Husband with Hall Pass? That to me sounds like single male (welcome bud)
Back when I was making new play friends, I verify Hall Pass and Hotwife claims.. meaning The Mr confirms the status of the Queen, my best guess will be you’ll get thesame thing UNLESS The Single Male is using the couple status as a bypass. Lol
A Husband with Hall Pass? That to me sounds like single male (welcome bud)
Back when I was making new play friends, I verify Hall Pass and Hotwife claims.. meaning The Mr confirms the status of the Queen, my best guess will be you’ll get thesame thing UNLESS The Single Male is using the couple status as a bypass. Lol
My wife used to occasionally enjoy going into a nice, upscale "single male market" and checking out the merchandise and even, once in a while, selecting a nice firm rump roast or juicy tube steak to take home and try out.
Unfortunately, most of these markets now seem to have become huge dingy warehouse stores where the shelves are absolutely crammed full of well-used, dented, over-stuffed, slightly rancid factory seconds, open-box returned merchandise and shoddy, poorly-built "goods"...and if there ARE any appealing products you have to dig thru the shelves and rummage around thru so many dirty, dusty, "rude dudes" who think they aren't getting their fair share and take much offense to that fact.
So yeah, we'd be on board with any initiative that dramatically increases the quality of single males and helps to sift out the riff-raff and hoi polloi. I mean, isn't that the prerogative of women in the lifestyle that they can select THE best, Grade A, choice males? Why would they want to settle for anything less than Top Shelf when there are SO very many to choose from?
It's absolutely a buyers market and unless they step up their game and bring their very best self to the table they likely aren't gonna be gettin' any when there are so many primo choices available. It's just that it's getting harder and harder to FIND those primo men amongst all the background noise. That's the harsh truth of the lifestyle. Whoever said life, or SWINGING, was fair?
Unfortunately, most of these markets now seem to have become huge dingy warehouse stores where the shelves are absolutely crammed full of well-used, dented, over-stuffed, slightly rancid factory seconds, open-box returned merchandise and shoddy, poorly-built "goods"...and if there ARE any appealing products you have to dig thru the shelves and rummage around thru so many dirty, dusty, "rude dudes" who think they aren't getting their fair share and take much offense to that fact.
So yeah, we'd be on board with any initiative that dramatically increases the quality of single males and helps to sift out the riff-raff and hoi polloi. I mean, isn't that the prerogative of women in the lifestyle that they can select THE best, Grade A, choice males? Why would they want to settle for anything less than Top Shelf when there are SO very many to choose from?
It's absolutely a buyers market and unless they step up their game and bring their very best self to the table they likely aren't gonna be gettin' any when there are so many primo choices available. It's just that it's getting harder and harder to FIND those primo men amongst all the background noise. That's the harsh truth of the lifestyle. Whoever said life, or SWINGING, was fair?
The other day I looked at some profiles of these “single males” and men! I’ll be scared to expose my Queen to SOME Of my fellow single males..
fearing copy-right violations I won’t post his pic this is the summary -Nice 6 packs, no kidding almost 11inches tool.. BUT you have to look through the very dirty mirror to see this cool guy when you look at both sides of the bathroom you’ll see severe disrepair and he seem downright oblivious.
I’ll borrow “step up their game” from Evidoers, Yup! And I’ll just say hmmmmmmm some people need to “get a life before they get in the lifestyle”
fearing copy-right violations I won’t post his pic this is the summary -Nice 6 packs, no kidding almost 11inches tool.. BUT you have to look through the very dirty mirror to see this cool guy when you look at both sides of the bathroom you’ll see severe disrepair and he seem downright oblivious.
I’ll borrow “step up their game” from Evidoers, Yup! And I’ll just say hmmmmmmm some people need to “get a life before they get in the lifestyle”
All this talk about single guys. I know most couples play together but surely there must be more like us. She loves to send me to play with couples and single women. If more couples were open to this we could have a non-single males market. Verification could come from the female half. What better way to find the right guy? Anyway we are open to to that sort of thing so I’m sure other couples may be as well. It’s a viable option for those of you who have a hard time finding respectable single guys. Just our 2 cents
Oh man...where do I begin here? OK, several things:
First, before we start working on new features how about doing something about Swingular's response time and availability? How many times has Swingular just disappeared for a day or two in the past year? How long is the typical page load? How does this compare to other sites? Make the site and features you've already developed work before moving more stuff into the "in progress" column.
Next, why would we start slut-shaming people? This idea that if a man slept with six people he's fine but if he slept with twelve people...well, that's just too much! He's a slut! What possible difference could that make to this community? If people are using condoms, the STI question doesn't really apply, you could argue that guy who slept with more people has more experience at NOT getting an STI; whereas a newb might not even realize if his condom slips off. This is a meaningless metric. Let's not go there.
And, as everyone has already pointed out (without actually calling it out), single males aren't the problem. Shitty people are. Fake profiles are. People who don't show up are. I've seen LOTS of dishonest profiles from couples. How many times have you gotten a friend request from some hot person and then they've got a private album full of pictures from 20 years ago? Or pictures of OTHER PEOPLE!!! How many fake single female profiles do you think there are on this site? I know of one guy who has at least four single female profiles.
The verification system is actually on the right track and is the most valuable tool we have right now...SO MORE OF THAT KIND OF THING PLEASE!
What we need is a way to rate profiles. Some of the rating system could be automatic - like if your profile is six years old and you've not been verified it should count against you. Or, if 90% of your profile says "N/A", that should count against you. But we should also have an intelligent way for people to influence one-another's ratings and the more people you've actually met in person, the more influence your rating of other people should have. If people meet you and think your pictures accurately reflect what you look like, your rating should go up...the opposite is also true.
Just our $0.02.
First, before we start working on new features how about doing something about Swingular's response time and availability? How many times has Swingular just disappeared for a day or two in the past year? How long is the typical page load? How does this compare to other sites? Make the site and features you've already developed work before moving more stuff into the "in progress" column.
Next, why would we start slut-shaming people? This idea that if a man slept with six people he's fine but if he slept with twelve people...well, that's just too much! He's a slut! What possible difference could that make to this community? If people are using condoms, the STI question doesn't really apply, you could argue that guy who slept with more people has more experience at NOT getting an STI; whereas a newb might not even realize if his condom slips off. This is a meaningless metric. Let's not go there.
And, as everyone has already pointed out (without actually calling it out), single males aren't the problem. Shitty people are. Fake profiles are. People who don't show up are. I've seen LOTS of dishonest profiles from couples. How many times have you gotten a friend request from some hot person and then they've got a private album full of pictures from 20 years ago? Or pictures of OTHER PEOPLE!!! How many fake single female profiles do you think there are on this site? I know of one guy who has at least four single female profiles.
The verification system is actually on the right track and is the most valuable tool we have right now...SO MORE OF THAT KIND OF THING PLEASE!
What we need is a way to rate profiles. Some of the rating system could be automatic - like if your profile is six years old and you've not been verified it should count against you. Or, if 90% of your profile says "N/A", that should count against you. But we should also have an intelligent way for people to influence one-another's ratings and the more people you've actually met in person, the more influence your rating of other people should have. If people meet you and think your pictures accurately reflect what you look like, your rating should go up...the opposite is also true.
Just our $0.02.
massageBBCguy wrote:I looked at my comment and “get a life” seem kinda harsh so here is a polite version “figure out life before you get in the lifestyle” 👌🏿
The other day I looked at some profiles of these “single males” and men! I’ll be scared to expose my Queen to SOME Of my fellow single males..
fearing copy-right violations I won’t post his pic this is the summary -Nice 6 packs, no kidding almost 11inches tool.. BUT you have to look through the very dirty mirror to see this cool guy when you look at both sides of the bathroom you’ll see severe disrepair and he seem downright oblivious.
I’ll borrow “step up their game” from Evidoers, Yup! And I’ll just say hmmmmmmm some people need to “get a life before they get in the lifestyle”
massageBBCguy wrote:massageBBCguy wrote:I looked at my comment and “get a life” seem kinda harsh so here is a polite version “figure out life before you get in the lifestyle” 👌🏿
The other day I looked at some profiles of these “single males” and men! I’ll be scared to expose my Queen to SOME Of my fellow single males..
fearing copy-right violations I won’t post his pic this is the summary -Nice 6 packs, no kidding almost 11inches tool.. BUT you have to look through the very dirty mirror to see this cool guy when you look at both sides of the bathroom you’ll see severe disrepair and he seem downright oblivious.
I’ll borrow “step up their game” from Evidoers, Yup! And I’ll just say hmmmmmmm some people need to “get a life before they get in the lifestyle”
I think that's a bit generalized. I would say possibly figure out your reasons/motivations for wanting to be in the lifestyle before you consider joining the lifestyle. Are you simply curious because of things you've heard that may or may not be true? Did a buddy tell you it's an easy way to get laid by hot women with husbands who are basically cucks? (Don't laugh, we've heard this more than a few times!) Do you have a bull/hotwife/cuck fantasy that you're trying to act out? (If so there are MANY sites other than a general swinging site that you would probably have much more success on.) Can you simply not get laid anywhere else? (This goes to massageBBC's recommendation to "figure out life" and maybe take a good look in the mirror and be brutally honest with yourself about what you think you bring to the table that the thousands of other guys you're competing with don't.) When you know the exact reason or reasons why you think the lifestyle might be a good fit for you only then can you really be prepared for the reality of what the lifestyle is and, more importantly, what it isn't.JMO
Brilliant! Thousands of other guys!!! That is very well said! I actually did some soul searching a couple of months ago and I noticed the difference.. I am pretty sure someone is saying I may be lucky because we have some “Affirmative Action Swingers” LOL
We like the idea! Implement like your described and we'll be happy. Although, i don't know how much it would stop the solicitations from single males or the ones ruining it for the rest of the nice respectful singles especially in the forums is a hot spot for the ass hat douche canoes. Don't know if there is any solving that.
Affirmative Action in swinging is using Race (BBC) as a Plus factor when considering a single male.
massageBBCguy wrote:
Brilliant! Thousands of other guys!!! That is very well said! I actually did some soul searching a couple of months ago and I noticed the difference.. I am pretty sure someone is saying I may be lucky because we have some “Affirmative Action Swingers” LOL
My answer not worth hell of alot, to some previous responses when I see a guy post that her has a hall pass I figure he's lying, or that's his scam. Which I'm sure works. If I was single I might say hey I'm married but wife have hall pass to try get more action. Ok no I probably wouldn't. I'd just rely on my smile but hey. Each there own. I think if married men wanted to use hall pass they'd have better luck getting to know couple first with there spouse. My other fear is it's a woman not really ok with they live store and says fine go do what u want just don't tell me. There ya go my two cents for free. If teach u but I'd have to charge.
So maybe the couples and females who use this Male Market, need to register as do the males, and put out a new pic every 3 months too..... Not sure about that aspect of the proposal as I do know a lot of people in my area and do not really want my face out there for anyone who signs up to see. Perhaps that Idea of allowing us to manage the photos like we do now to reveal to specific people.
Wait, register males, couples and females, to register or be a member of the male market, control pictures as to who sees them, Hey that sounds like what swingular already is..... It is called membership..... or subscription.
There are way too many who rather than allow or accommodate single males, that are REAL and participate and mind the rules of etiquette, set by the couples, who are doing everything to exclude them.
I am a great guy, and I know several others here from meet and greets, who really fit well with couples or single ladies. I have had some great and regular fun with members of this site.
I admit there are several really jackass guys on here looking for God who knows what, but there has to be a better way, than to segregate the "single guys" from the rest of the heard.
Some casual meetups I have had on here, were kind of sketchy. Going in, I had some of the same concerns about the couple that many of you say you have about the single males on here. Turned out it was great fun for all involved. I have had some really rotten couples here who play the same games that are complained about on single men.
We are all adults on here (supposedly) and should be able to be aware and savvy on here that we don't have to have mother or father always looking to protect us from every little peanut, fall or stumble by writing really hard software, then get all kinds of complaints about their work that does not match each and every special member.
This lifestyle is not an exclusive right for the "Elite talk a lot, do nothing Swingers" who seem to make all the rules. There seems to at times to be a lack of civility. This site has served me well for a lot of years. I just don't know about the reason for all of this new proposal, what is really behind it, and why now.
Don't even reply with dumb, sarcastic reply's, it is my opinion, and I don't want to hear from the crackpot regulars, as much as from those who have positive responses to the problem...
Wait, register males, couples and females, to register or be a member of the male market, control pictures as to who sees them, Hey that sounds like what swingular already is..... It is called membership..... or subscription.
There are way too many who rather than allow or accommodate single males, that are REAL and participate and mind the rules of etiquette, set by the couples, who are doing everything to exclude them.
I am a great guy, and I know several others here from meet and greets, who really fit well with couples or single ladies. I have had some great and regular fun with members of this site.
I admit there are several really jackass guys on here looking for God who knows what, but there has to be a better way, than to segregate the "single guys" from the rest of the heard.
Some casual meetups I have had on here, were kind of sketchy. Going in, I had some of the same concerns about the couple that many of you say you have about the single males on here. Turned out it was great fun for all involved. I have had some really rotten couples here who play the same games that are complained about on single men.
We are all adults on here (supposedly) and should be able to be aware and savvy on here that we don't have to have mother or father always looking to protect us from every little peanut, fall or stumble by writing really hard software, then get all kinds of complaints about their work that does not match each and every special member.
This lifestyle is not an exclusive right for the "Elite talk a lot, do nothing Swingers" who seem to make all the rules. There seems to at times to be a lack of civility. This site has served me well for a lot of years. I just don't know about the reason for all of this new proposal, what is really behind it, and why now.
Don't even reply with dumb, sarcastic reply's, it is my opinion, and I don't want to hear from the crackpot regulars, as much as from those who have positive responses to the problem...
I am a single male and I just blocked you. LOL
We love this idea. Single males are always welcome to contact us, so making that easier is only a good thing.
FUNCOUP4SEX wrote:Word on the street is heavens forbid you let single males know you are interest in them.. I developed a keen interest in your reply to see how long you’ll have it up before you get overwhelmed a forced to delete.. oh well maybe Bob Dylan’s The Times They Are A-Changin fits in the LS now? Hmm 🤔
We love this idea. Single males are always welcome to contact us, so making that easier is only a good thing.
Great Pics btw!
Yes indeed they are as wrong as we they just can realize it .fight even when they are wrong .But I love them all as long as they go home when we are done
I like the idea. I appreciate that you continue to think of innovative ways to be inclusive. Thank you.
Gentlemen. The couples here are right. Thanks to the Ex--Craigslist crowd and the porblems that they setup for the honest single male (single or with a hall pass) has propagated problems on these sites. I just left AFF for the same reasons. These are the single males that have screwed it up for the rest of us. Meaning, fake photos, no shows, under performer, rude, etc. Being new to the Lehi area and with a hall pass (wife has had multiple operations and disabled and she said go playbfrom time to time) and being experienced in the lifestyle it a hard nut to crack. Thankfully I have patients. other things single males can do is get a paid subscription and get verified. I payed, but customer support is slow on the verification process. Lol.
I would love a feature like this. As a newly single male myself, the idea of continuing the lifestyle as a single male scares me a little. Not gonna lie.
I would love any way to verify who i am and any way to just kind of let people know that I'm available and a nice guy.
I would love any way to verify who i am and any way to just kind of let people know that I'm available and a nice guy.
I'm looking forward to see where this goes!
Being a single girl, new to this lifestyle and so very picky, it's hard for me to find dependable guys!!!!
Whether, it's for accompanying me to parties or for lots of private FUN!
I need help! 😈😜
Being a single girl, new to this lifestyle and so very picky, it's hard for me to find dependable guys!!!!
Whether, it's for accompanying me to parties or for lots of private FUN!
I need help! 😈😜
I would like to see some kind of rating/review system on all profiles. I don’t think you need a special section to accomplish this. There are just as many flake couples and single women as there are single males. I’ve followed enough threads and read about blind requests and flakes enough that I don’t do friend requests unless I’ve exchanged a few emails or have met in person.
It would be nice if there was a spot on my profile that someone could verify that we have met and I am who I say I am(and showed up). I know that would be nice to see on others profiles also.
I’ve had my fair share of great singles and couples that I’ve met over the years on here and I’ve also had some horrible ones. It’s part of trying to do it online, I doubt it will ever be perfect.
It would be nice if there was a spot on my profile that someone could verify that we have met and I am who I say I am(and showed up). I know that would be nice to see on others profiles also.
I’ve had my fair share of great singles and couples that I’ve met over the years on here and I’ve also had some horrible ones. It’s part of trying to do it online, I doubt it will ever be perfect.
So whatever happened to this? Was it already implemented in some way? I'd be curious to see what, if anything, it might change about the dynamics of single males in the lifestyle.
When this thread first started back in June of last year I wondered aloud to Ms. Evil if Swingular was perhaps thinking of somehow separating the single male portion from the couples and allowing couples so-inclined to 'opt-in' to some kind of Single Male Marketplace. I don't know how that would go over as a business model for a company trying to sell memberships to it's website but I think it could conceivably be one way to address at least some of the conflicts that seem to pop up quite often about single males.
When this thread first started back in June of last year I wondered aloud to Ms. Evil if Swingular was perhaps thinking of somehow separating the single male portion from the couples and allowing couples so-inclined to 'opt-in' to some kind of Single Male Marketplace. I don't know how that would go over as a business model for a company trying to sell memberships to it's website but I think it could conceivably be one way to address at least some of the conflicts that seem to pop up quite often about single males.
I'm all for this
EVILDOERS wrote:
So whatever happened to this? Was it already implemented in some way? I'd be curious to see what, if anything, it might change about the dynamics of single males in the lifestyle.
When this thread first started back in June of last year I wondered aloud to Ms. Evil if Swingular was perhaps thinking of somehow separating the single male portion from the couples and allowing couples so-inclined to 'opt-in' to some kind of Single Male Marketplace. I don't know how that would go over as a business model for a company trying to sell memberships to it's website but I think it could conceivably be one way to address at least some of the conflicts that seem to pop up quite often about single males.
I see what you are saying but that would be a very big change to the membership that I joined. I don't think I would have joined under that model. I do think that there is a solution, just haven't thought it through enough. I am a Digital Experience Architect in real life so this has the squirrels in my head running.
RUBDOWN wrote:EVILDOERS wrote:
So whatever happened to this? Was it already implemented in some way? I'd be curious to see what, if anything, it might change about the dynamics of single males in the lifestyle.
When this thread first started back in June of last year I wondered aloud to Ms. Evil if Swingular was perhaps thinking of somehow separating the single male portion from the couples and allowing couples so-inclined to 'opt-in' to some kind of Single Male Marketplace. I don't know how that would go over as a business model for a company trying to sell memberships to it's website but I think it could conceivably be one way to address at least some of the conflicts that seem to pop up quite often about single males.
I see what you are saying but that would be a very big change to the membership that I joined. I don't think I would have joined under that model. I do think that there is a solution, just haven't thought it through enough. I am a Digital Experience Architect in real life so this has the squirrels in my head running.
It's likely a LOT of single males would not join under that model. That's why I said I didn't know how it could work as a business model for a company that, I assume, would be interested in maximizing profits. I'm fairly certain that selling memberships to single males is a very big portion of the site's revenue.
On the other hand, I think that SOME kind of different model could possibly alleviate some of the seemingly constant conflict between single males and those couples who prefer not to interact with them. I'm certain that many will say, "Just block them." and/or "Ignore them if you don't want to play with single males." And yes, that's one possible method that at this point is pretty much the ONLY option. But I don't think it does very much to address what is a recurrent theme of many forum threads.
A separate area on the site, specifically for single males or even for singles, in general, might be one way to decrease a little bit of the animosity that crops up so often. Maybe couples seeking single females would have to "pay" the price of doing that by having to opt-in to the singles side of Swingular. lol
[Just an aside, I'm NOT advocating, necessarily, for ANY of this. Just spitballing and throwing around a few thoughts off the top of my head. Ms. Evil and I, until very recently, have been very single male friendly and she has even had and used a hall pass to go play with single males on a number of occasions. It was actually at HER request, several months ago, that we blocked single males from our profile. Just wanted to throw that out there so people could see that I'm not completely biased against single males.]
Ultimately I don't know what the best answer to this problem might be and I'm not under any illusion that things will likely EVER change in this regard on Swingular and on swingsites in general. I just started thinking about this because of a post a few days ago by a single male decrying COUPLES as the real culprits in this conflict. I, with tongue-in-cheek, responded that perhaps couples should be banned from Swingular and from swinging in general. lol So take my comments for what they're worth...likely FAR less than two cents.
Evil
I love the idea
We think it’s perfect, it weeds out a lot of the flakes!
Great idea
Love the idea, particularly for bisexual male. I am not sure who is bi and who is not
Oh that’s right.. what happened to this? Yawn...
Great idea!
Hello new guy .
Good job... keep it that way.. don’t reach out to couples at all.. spice up your profile they’ll reach out to you... andddddddd if they do reach out to you.. chances are super high (wink)
.Good job... keep it that way.. don’t reach out to couples at all.. spice up your profile they’ll reach out to you... andddddddd if they do reach out to you.. chances are super high (wink)
I think it sounds great! Very good idea.
This sounds like a great plan. Im new to this so it would be great to be able to get feedback from couples i play with. Please keep me informed.
Sounds good to me.
I like the idea and would support it.
Kingaroo wrote:
Sounds good to me.
SM or Couple?
The same situation applies to couples as well. I as a single male have experienced the endless email routine were a believe the male half is answering the emailsand makes a date but for some reason they are a no show and then turns onto a ghost. I believe its because the female was not aware of the communications wxchanged and was not on board. Maybe the proper way to rate them is only report the flakes. So people who are active arent treted like sluts and it only punisjes tjose that make a date and dont follow thru.
The same situation applies to couples as well. I as a single male have experienced the endless email routine were a believe the male half is answering the emailsand makes a date but for some reason they are a no show and then turns onto a ghost. I believe its because the female was not aware of the communications wxchanged and was not on board. Maybe the proper way to rate them is only report the flakes. So people who are active arent treted like sluts and it only punisjes tjose that make a date and dont follow thru.
Admin, is this going to become a thing? Great ideas should never fade away.
While summer is here just go to the stansbury island naked beach and take your pick. Always someone horny there lol. There's couples there also just not as many as single guys. I went last Sunday and there were 3 couples and about 10 dudes.
We went to the Male Market this weekend and it was SO picked over! Maybe it was because it's Labor Day Weekend but all that was left on the shelves was some old, rancid, stringy stuff that was WAY past it's expiration date and some...well, they called it "well-marbled" but it really just had a lot of fat on it that nobody had bothered to trim off.
And I swear most of the stuff they had wasn't even good enough to call refurbished or factory seconds or whatever. Until they restock or find a new supplier we're gonna start shopping elsewhere. Hadn't really thought about picking up a stray out on Stansbury Island or Dugway Proving Ground or wherever. Wouldn't most of those be infested with brine flies or tularemia or something?
And I swear most of the stuff they had wasn't even good enough to call refurbished or factory seconds or whatever. Until they restock or find a new supplier we're gonna start shopping elsewhere. Hadn't really thought about picking up a stray out on Stansbury Island or Dugway Proving Ground or wherever. Wouldn't most of those be infested with brine flies or tularemia or something?
Don't look no further, I'm all in 1😘
Michigan is a long way from Utah
Or you know, people can communicate to each other what they are looking for. Since apparently most people don't know how to hit the "reply" button to let the other person know they aren't interested/ interested/ or not at that time. Lots of people on here playing games, acting like they are too busy to send a quick response. It goes a long way. Further then crying about repeated messages from single guys
We NEVER respond to single male requests. Or even couple requests if their profile does not interest us. Sending an email does not dream some sort of commitment on the receiving party to respond. We send out emails and often do not receive a response. Do we feel slighted or entitled to a response no.
Our profile states clearly no single males needed. Plenty of couples available. Yet we continue to receive single male emails and friend requests. Never read them never respond, always block and send the friend request to the Depths of friend request he’ll by just deleting and not responding.
Our profile states clearly no single males needed. Plenty of couples available. Yet we continue to receive single male emails and friend requests. Never read them never respond, always block and send the friend request to the Depths of friend request he’ll by just deleting and not responding.
Sounds like a great idea. I also think a rating system would be nice because it could weed out the phonies, disrespectful and the men who catfish. The problem is I think there are too many single males who lie, no show or act like fools ruining it for the honest ones. Just my opinion. Thanks for listening.
Yet you are still listed as a cpl and no where in your profile does it say your single... Big part of the problem!
Erg2mrg241 wrote:
I'm newly single, yet still join with others. I personally like 3somes best of any options.
But in reading and hearing other suggestions/comment and some of the complaints/observation, it still seem best for a couple to have coffee with the prospect guy, ask questions, see what others reviews have said.
How a guy didn't work for others is simply a matter of preference. The next couple my find him the " ticket" 😉
I've been invited back, I assume that that's two thumbs up ( no pun intended ).
It also goes two ways, some may not be the right couple for the Fella 🤔
Yet you are still listed as a cpl and no where in your profile does it say your single... Big part of the problem!
Erg2mrg241 wrote:
I'm newly single, yet still join with others. I personally like 3somes best of any options.
But in reading and hearing other suggestions/comment and some of the complaints/observation, it still seem best for a couple to have coffee with the prospect guy, ask questions, see what others reviews have said.
How a guy didn't work for others is simply a matter of preference. The next couple my find him the " ticket" 😉
I've been invited back, I assume that that's two thumbs up ( no pun intended ).
It also goes two ways, some may not be the right couple for the Fella 🤔
I’m new to the whole lifestyle scene and can’t break the candy glass ceiling of meeting someone, anyone. There must be more guys and girls out there like me stuck in limbo land. Your idea sounds great and fixes lots of problems.
We think the "male market" idea is a good one. The "slut" question doesn't seem too important to us, but we can see how it could be concerning to some. Particularly said single males. After all...as much of the conversation above has revealed, one couples "properly seasoned single male" is another couples's "indiscriminate man-whore".
The irony here, is that there is a lot of chatter and/or disdain that kind of paints single males as being dime-a-dozen, and you can pick one up at the drop of a hat. After all, we all know that dudes don't need a reason to fuck, they just need a place, right? Therefore, they should all kiss the asses of women or couples that may deign to entertain them. Funny thing is, in our experience of searching for male partners for some good old fashioned MFM rock-her-world-fuckfest style fun, it is not nearly as easy as one might think it should be.
That said, there are definitely plenty of not so interesting single males due to being cheaters, nasty, self-absorbed, 20yrs over there stated age, and so-on, and it would be nice if there were a tool which could help us identify those more quickly. It would be great if there were a better way to identify those who are truly good candidates for some awesome play time. Although to be fair, you could make the same argument that there could be a more effective tool for identifying legitimate couples that are worth pursuing....
Dammit! Once again the world has proven it's resistance to perfection....
The irony here, is that there is a lot of chatter and/or disdain that kind of paints single males as being dime-a-dozen, and you can pick one up at the drop of a hat. After all, we all know that dudes don't need a reason to fuck, they just need a place, right? Therefore, they should all kiss the asses of women or couples that may deign to entertain them. Funny thing is, in our experience of searching for male partners for some good old fashioned MFM rock-her-world-fuckfest style fun, it is not nearly as easy as one might think it should be.
That said, there are definitely plenty of not so interesting single males due to being cheaters, nasty, self-absorbed, 20yrs over there stated age, and so-on, and it would be nice if there were a tool which could help us identify those more quickly. It would be great if there were a better way to identify those who are truly good candidates for some awesome play time. Although to be fair, you could make the same argument that there could be a more effective tool for identifying legitimate couples that are worth pursuing....
Dammit! Once again the world has proven it's resistance to perfection....
I’m little late to this post, but wanted to throw in my two cents. As a single male in the lifestyle, I hear horror stories of single males behaving badly. Of course this reflects badly on all single males. Any system to weed out that bad behavior would be a welcomed relief.
I would have to say I’m surprised at how often couples are no shows as well. Or, fail to grasp that we have feelings too. I’m not defending the bad behavior from single males, but if we have a rating system, it should go both ways...so to speak. Ha!
I would have to say I’m surprised at how often couples are no shows as well. Or, fail to grasp that we have feelings too. I’m not defending the bad behavior from single males, but if we have a rating system, it should go both ways...so to speak. Ha!
harvestlover wrote:
I’m new to the whole lifestyle scene and can’t break the candy glass ceiling of meeting someone, anyone. There must be more guys and girls out there like me stuck in limbo land. Your idea sounds great and fixes lots of problems.
This is late to this conversation, but...
You have no photo on your profile public photo page, and your profile says you live in AL. That's a looooong way from most of the people on this site. So, you probably aren't meeting anyone for those reasons alone. On the other hand, commenting on the forums, as you can now see, helps to get you somewhat visible.