Disclaimer. Not all Single males are creepy and bad but we all know there are those bad apples that ruin it for the rest of the good ones.
Here's our's greatly condensed:
Single Male profile claimed to be a couple and exchanged info. The. We t on to day that they are both always out of town for work so we HAD to be okay eith threesomes with them (2 of us and 1 of them). Was very adamant this was to be the norm. This when red flags started to dly.
First Red Flag, realized none of thier pics were of them together. Asked for a group picture which got him defensive really fast about how they never have time because of the traveling...
Second: Asked if the first 3 some could the. Be MFF but that was against his rules apparently and he always had to go first
Third and biggest: Asked for a picture of both of them (said didn't have to have then together) to send a pic with our names on it. He did but she didn't and when asked he said that she lost her phone.
Final Flag and back story. When we first messaged on Kik it was just "husband." We always chat in groups on KiK so we asked for hers. "She" made an account for us and began the escapades above. Noe they never messaged at the same time but always a few mind after eachother.
Then it happened. Doofus messaged us from the male account pretending to be the female but not realizing which account he was logged into. Said something a long the lines ofnjudt got hair and nails done and was glad to be off period or something like that (exact words escape my.mind but it was Obvious).
Called out on it and just got a "fuck you guys" and a XXXXXXXX has left the group conversation.
Single Males who aren't like the above: the k you for being great and who you are and feel free to share the opposite of a crazy couple encounter.
Here's our's greatly condensed:
Single Male profile claimed to be a couple and exchanged info. The. We t on to day that they are both always out of town for work so we HAD to be okay eith threesomes with them (2 of us and 1 of them). Was very adamant this was to be the norm. This when red flags started to dly.
First Red Flag, realized none of thier pics were of them together. Asked for a group picture which got him defensive really fast about how they never have time because of the traveling...
Second: Asked if the first 3 some could the. Be MFF but that was against his rules apparently and he always had to go first
Third and biggest: Asked for a picture of both of them (said didn't have to have then together) to send a pic with our names on it. He did but she didn't and when asked he said that she lost her phone.
Final Flag and back story. When we first messaged on Kik it was just "husband." We always chat in groups on KiK so we asked for hers. "She" made an account for us and began the escapades above. Noe they never messaged at the same time but always a few mind after eachother.
Then it happened. Doofus messaged us from the male account pretending to be the female but not realizing which account he was logged into. Said something a long the lines ofnjudt got hair and nails done and was glad to be off period or something like that (exact words escape my.mind but it was Obvious).
Called out on it and just got a "fuck you guys" and a XXXXXXXX has left the group conversation.
Single Males who aren't like the above: the k you for being great and who you are and feel free to share the opposite of a crazy couple encounter.
Coffee doesn't cost 25 dollars at Starbucks. It doesn't even cost 10 dollars. Their coffee isn't that great, IMHO, and you can probably order some crazy shit that's not on the regular menu (like a Venti Pumpkin Spice Latte with, like, 10 extra shots or something) and get the price up there but you really have to try. Nice story though.
Yes, people lie...all the time. Everybody does it about one thing or another (although most of us don't consider our own lies nearly as bad as OTHER people's) and they range from so-called "little white lies" to doozies! Some people even lie about how much coffee costs.
Hell, look at politics. We now have multiple websites that do nothing more that fact check and tally lies told by politicians! And people ESPECIALLY lie about sex. Caveat emptor! You have to do your due diligence and try not to let your little brain override your big brain when it thinks it's gonna get lucky. As the OP noted, red flags are everywhere and if you listen to your little brain and ignore those flags you'll likely get burned sooner or later.
tl;dr Coffee at Starbucks isn't 25 bucks and people lie.
Yes, people lie...all the time. Everybody does it about one thing or another (although most of us don't consider our own lies nearly as bad as OTHER people's) and they range from so-called "little white lies" to doozies! Some people even lie about how much coffee costs.
Hell, look at politics. We now have multiple websites that do nothing more that fact check and tally lies told by politicians! And people ESPECIALLY lie about sex. Caveat emptor! You have to do your due diligence and try not to let your little brain override your big brain when it thinks it's gonna get lucky. As the OP noted, red flags are everywhere and if you listen to your little brain and ignore those flags you'll likely get burned sooner or later.
tl;dr Coffee at Starbucks isn't 25 bucks and people lie.
sounds like somebody needs to rub one out
POUNDCAKE wrote:
sounds like somebody needs to rub one out
After drinking something with 16 shots of espresso more like rub the fucker all the way off.
But good for him for having a hobby that keeps him off the streets...even if it IS an unhealthy obsession with bad sci-fi movies. Keep practicing with your "light saber", bro.
LustInSaltLake wrote:
Hey Admins, can we change the name of adult forums to , "look at me, look at me, I have more pointless shit to say while the grown ups are talking." ??
" Bro? " It's always nice when they help prove your point.
Or, alternatively, we could call them, "Place For Desperate Single Guys To Try To Get Laid Because They Can't IRL".
Have fun with you hand tonight, Skippy. Hey, maybe you could try a threesome and use BOTH hands! Maybe put on some romantic music (Justin Bieber seems appropriate.), open a bottle of Colt 45, light a few candles. Don't be too easy though, or they won't respect you in the morning. At least your walk of shame will just be into the bathroom.
As a couple that is only interested in single males, we have had the opportunity to meet many individuals. Yeah, we have been stood up a couple of times but our overall experience has been a very positive one.
We see all this single male bashing on this site and it is disgusting. We had the understanding that this community was one of acceptance and respect but we don't see that reflected here. We've never seen anything negative about single women or couples. It's only the single males. We are sure there are some bad apples out there but we refuse to let them spoil it for the others.
We see all this single male bashing on this site and it is disgusting. We had the understanding that this community was one of acceptance and respect but we don't see that reflected here. We've never seen anything negative about single women or couples. It's only the single males. We are sure there are some bad apples out there but we refuse to let them spoil it for the others.
Lust,
I'm starting to get the feeling that you and I aren't gonna be BFF's. But I'm willing to hug it out with you if you are. Meet me at Smith's tonight on the potato chip isle.
Evil
ps- Sorry about your wife.
I'm starting to get the feeling that you and I aren't gonna be BFF's. But I'm willing to hug it out with you if you are. Meet me at Smith's tonight on the potato chip isle.
Evil
ps- Sorry about your wife.
LustInSaltLake wrote:
How about this. You live your life. I will live mine.
It's squashed.
Fair enough.
Most of the single guys we've met were in California. Everything was very straight forward. They would make contact. We would set up a time. Meet. 50% of the time it there was a play date set. The other 50%, it didn't click for one reason or another, usually false advertising... 10 year old photos.
Here in Utah, most of the "single" guys, we think, are actually married guys, who never intended to meet, right up until the time we're suppose to meet. Very frustrating. We can't figure out why all the wasted time. So, our 2 cents worth...
Here in Utah, most of the "single" guys, we think, are actually married guys, who never intended to meet, right up until the time we're suppose to meet. Very frustrating. We can't figure out why all the wasted time. So, our 2 cents worth...
IN the 15 years of this lifestyle, we've not had a single creepy, odd, off putting, etc. experience with a single male
We have, however, had way to many to count with married men who brought their 'ticket' to an event, club, or party....
All the single male bashing we read seems to be unfounded in our experience, however, if you replaced single male with married male or man who brought a girl to ________ or the like, we've seen or experienced it.
We have, however, had way to many to count with married men who brought their 'ticket' to an event, club, or party....
All the single male bashing we read seems to be unfounded in our experience, however, if you replaced single male with married male or man who brought a girl to ________ or the like, we've seen or experienced it.
We've had WAY more weird and scary experiences with single women. Single men are way easier to deal with. The creepy story told by the OP would never have become a creepy story if all the signs weren't ignored. It would have taken us 2 minutes to realize what, and who, we were dealing with and we would have walked away before it went anywhere.
....so I wonder, could this have been truthful hyperbole all along, and its only now, that brave souls are stepping up to the microphone ?.....silence is complicity
harvey weinstein abused me !!!!
FIT_N_FUN:
That was a condensed story. I only told the parts of the story of the warning signs. So of course it seems foolish to not spot them. That sorry was over the course of probably 3-4 weeks of which 90% of everything seemed normal.
So saying you would of realized in 2 minutes and left is out of context
That was a condensed story. I only told the parts of the story of the warning signs. So of course it seems foolish to not spot them. That sorry was over the course of probably 3-4 weeks of which 90% of everything seemed normal.
So saying you would of realized in 2 minutes and left is out of context
Sorry to stray from the single male part of the topic/question but ironically almost all of our crazy, creepy, and weird experiences were with the male half of couples (some married, a few "dating", and several cheating on their spouses and swinging with other married women).
It's really hard to pick just one as there have been quite a few but our first one, way back in the day at an LSO convention in Los Angeles, stood out. This sorta slimy acting dude apparently told his wife that they were going to a "couples retreat". Of course she was more that a little blindsided and upset when she found out they were actually at a swinger's convention. For some reason they kind of latched onto us (we were pretty new to swinging at the time) and spent the entire weekend more or less chasing us. He was completely gung ho about it all and she seemed (once she got over her initial shock and disgust) to vacillate between utter revulsion and reluctant acceptance.
Finally, a few hours before our plane was scheduled to leave (in the days before you had to arrive early at the airport) he tracked us down and somehow convinced us that she was finally on board and they wanted to play with us before we left. We kind of shrugged our shoulders and thought, "Why the fuck not?" since we had been a little too shy to play with anyone up to that point.
We followed him back to their room and entered to find her lying on the bed completely naked staring at the ceiling. He immediately started stripping and pawing at Ms. Evil. We were both a little confused and wondered why she hadn't even greeted us at all and just continued to stare at the ceiling. Finally, my wife said, "What is wrong with your wife?" and he walked over and looked at her and said, "Oh, Sandy's just really passive." and proceeded to push her legs apart and told me to fuck her.
I wasn't about to even THINK about doing any such thing and as soon as I saw the completely dumbfounded look on my wife's face I knew it was time to leave. It was more than a little sad and pathetic...and a little bit scary that he followed us down the hallways and into the lobby, completely nude, begging us to return. LOL
It's really hard to pick just one as there have been quite a few but our first one, way back in the day at an LSO convention in Los Angeles, stood out. This sorta slimy acting dude apparently told his wife that they were going to a "couples retreat". Of course she was more that a little blindsided and upset when she found out they were actually at a swinger's convention. For some reason they kind of latched onto us (we were pretty new to swinging at the time) and spent the entire weekend more or less chasing us. He was completely gung ho about it all and she seemed (once she got over her initial shock and disgust) to vacillate between utter revulsion and reluctant acceptance.
Finally, a few hours before our plane was scheduled to leave (in the days before you had to arrive early at the airport) he tracked us down and somehow convinced us that she was finally on board and they wanted to play with us before we left. We kind of shrugged our shoulders and thought, "Why the fuck not?" since we had been a little too shy to play with anyone up to that point.
We followed him back to their room and entered to find her lying on the bed completely naked staring at the ceiling. He immediately started stripping and pawing at Ms. Evil. We were both a little confused and wondered why she hadn't even greeted us at all and just continued to stare at the ceiling. Finally, my wife said, "What is wrong with your wife?" and he walked over and looked at her and said, "Oh, Sandy's just really passive." and proceeded to push her legs apart and told me to fuck her.
I wasn't about to even THINK about doing any such thing and as soon as I saw the completely dumbfounded look on my wife's face I knew it was time to leave. It was more than a little sad and pathetic...and a little bit scary that he followed us down the hallways and into the lobby, completely nude, begging us to return. LOL
Always love your posts and story Evildoers
Also to the people getting upset about single male "bashing "
Our disclaimer was trying to avoid that. Like we said, it's the sour apples that ruin it for the 95% that are great. But most of these kinds of stories come from the SM side then the Unicorn side because of simple numbers alone.
Also to the people getting upset about single male "bashing "
Our disclaimer was trying to avoid that. Like we said, it's the sour apples that ruin it for the 95% that are great. But most of these kinds of stories come from the SM side then the Unicorn side because of simple numbers alone.
Lust,
What is up with the attack? I get it, you have to get vile with Evil, but when someone has an opinion why do we have to attack? I have done it when cornered, but throughout it sounds more like a "pity me" party. We all have our issues and everyone has them. I try to take the high road, it doesn't always work. But understand a lie is a lie. Overreacting over Coffee prices is hilarious since a $16 drink called the Revolver comes from Beans and Brews but you say Starbucks is expensive. $5.66 for my Venti Gingerbread latte... I can justify it when meeting someone that is hopefully going to give great conversation... and great tongue action later.
But I have found more "single men" who are married and cheating on this site. The "Couples" are my favorite, because the excuses are the best. I would love to find a bisexual women to be with, if her husband wants to join... great. But the games and the lies are what kills the mood.
I'm sorry you wife passed but slamming that down on the table is like kid throwing sand in someone's face. Step back, breathe, and realize everyone doesn't know.
Being called on BS is just to say "you're right, I went over a boundary. Sorry." We try and sometimes lose. But to just say "I fucked up!" From the highest mountain is just showing your balls to own your shit.
What is up with the attack? I get it, you have to get vile with Evil, but when someone has an opinion why do we have to attack? I have done it when cornered, but throughout it sounds more like a "pity me" party. We all have our issues and everyone has them. I try to take the high road, it doesn't always work. But understand a lie is a lie. Overreacting over Coffee prices is hilarious since a $16 drink called the Revolver comes from Beans and Brews but you say Starbucks is expensive. $5.66 for my Venti Gingerbread latte... I can justify it when meeting someone that is hopefully going to give great conversation... and great tongue action later.
But I have found more "single men" who are married and cheating on this site. The "Couples" are my favorite, because the excuses are the best. I would love to find a bisexual women to be with, if her husband wants to join... great. But the games and the lies are what kills the mood.
I'm sorry you wife passed but slamming that down on the table is like kid throwing sand in someone's face. Step back, breathe, and realize everyone doesn't know.
Being called on BS is just to say "you're right, I went over a boundary. Sorry." We try and sometimes lose. But to just say "I fucked up!" From the highest mountain is just showing your balls to own your shit.
Nikita,
Have you ever heard of pity sex? Well let us introduce you to it. I know you were expecting us to bash someone, but no we are willing to try anything to meet you lol
Have you ever heard of pity sex? Well let us introduce you to it. I know you were expecting us to bash someone, but no we are willing to try anything to meet you lol
It's not why single guys are single, it's how single guys act. Pulling the pity me card is pathetic! We have had plenty of strange experiences with single and the male half of couples.
Single males always seem to have a wife that no longer has sex with them but approves them having an affair as long as she doesn't find out.
We actually had a married guy ask if he could pay us to have sex in our back yard and he would just watch through the fence like it was just a coincidence that he looked through the slats while we were engaged. All we could figure out with this guy was it would help his conscious as to watching porn is damaging you know...
We have meet more than a few couples that are or we're on here becaudpse the husband had an affair so they are notpw swinging to make it ok. We bolt as soon as that comes up. Way beyond our boundaries.
We finally figured it out. No sex, just friends with naked benefits. Then if in the future something happens we know them well and all is ok...
Single males always seem to have a wife that no longer has sex with them but approves them having an affair as long as she doesn't find out.
We actually had a married guy ask if he could pay us to have sex in our back yard and he would just watch through the fence like it was just a coincidence that he looked through the slats while we were engaged. All we could figure out with this guy was it would help his conscious as to watching porn is damaging you know...
We have meet more than a few couples that are or we're on here becaudpse the husband had an affair so they are notpw swinging to make it ok. We bolt as soon as that comes up. Way beyond our boundaries.
We finally figured it out. No sex, just friends with naked benefits. Then if in the future something happens we know them well and all is ok...
Single and new. However always wanted to get in this life style. So when I say Free At Last well I am single for the first time in over 20 years. And yes there are good guys left I am one of them it makes it hard for others who are being real and then you get the Schmucks and make it twice as hard
We had a similar experience where the guy acted like he was In a relationship. He was obviously running 2 different kik accounts pretending to be each. One time he got flagged for saying the wrong thing in the wrong kik. Called him out, same thing. Wonder if it was the same guy lol.
Also another dude from Spanish fork reached out to us. Same thing. No pics of them together. They were looking for a swap. He couldnt get a live pic with them. When called out, same thing.
I dread the thought of thinking we are meeting w a couple and only the male showing up. I will refuse to let him in or even explain if it ever does happen.
Also another dude from Spanish fork reached out to us. Same thing. No pics of them together. They were looking for a swap. He couldnt get a live pic with them. When called out, same thing.
I dread the thought of thinking we are meeting w a couple and only the male showing up. I will refuse to let him in or even explain if it ever does happen.
Just remembered another one. This couple contacts us and we decide to meet for drinks. The GUY shows up and tells us his "girlfriend" couldn't get off work to come. Immediately we're thinking, "Yeah, there's no girlfriend." We chat for a bit and say we have to take off and he asks when we can get together again. We tell him, "No offense but we're not sure there even IS a girlfriend." and that we've been punked before. He proceeds to whip out his wallet and show us a folded up picture of a girl that is literally cut out of a magazine. We laugh and say, "Yeah, right." and he says "NO! I swear she's real and she's a part-time model who lives in Boise and is also a hairdresser." We say we REALLY have to get going and leave. He keeps contacting us and bugging us and then one day out of the blue his "girlfriend" calls us and after talking to her and GRILLING her for a long while it turns out he was telling the truth. We actually DID end up trying to hook up with them one time but got REALLY turned off as the evening progressed because he kept putting her down and insulting her in backhanded ways.
None! We don't play with single males and you shouldn't either.
Have several stories lol
As a single female , I find single men NOT in the lifestyle to be way creeier. Then there's the married men, pretending to be single . I have chosen to exclusively date single men who are IN the lifestyle . They have WAY more class . It is unfortunate when that one bad apple spoils the bunch .
We have always had positive experiences with single guys. When the don't flake. Over the years we've had some long lasting FWB that were fun and reliable. Always open to a single!
Any that have no profile pics and vague info. Then send a message that just says Can I fuck her?
I get creepy dudes sometimes mainly when they aré attracted my baby face and make creepy comments about me looking 15-16 and then asking if I would want to meet up
Lol. The saga continues and it never gets old. Oh lord.
These are some really funny and fucked up situations described in this thread. The fist couple we met on this site met me alone without my significant other. I told them up front she had not arrived in town yet and I would like to meet them if they were ok with it. I did point out that it was just dinner not playing. We had a great time and when my wife arrived we went over their house and had a really great time...naked. It all worked out and they are still great friends 5 years latter.
Not all situations are the same and red flags should never be ignored. Bad situations are going to happen and for us we just move on without worrying about the details. We are always ready for what cums next.
Not all situations are the same and red flags should never be ignored. Bad situations are going to happen and for us we just move on without worrying about the details. We are always ready for what cums next.
If a single guy, well really a single female, or a couple, have good recommendations, from couples or singles, that have been verified as "Real", who also have good recommendations, the person or people in question, are much less likely to be sociopathic or psychopathic when you actually meet them.
We have had both good and bad experiences with single guys. For the purpose of this discussion "single" means either unattached, or claiming to be unattached. We have encountered single guys who came to LS parties with a female, who turned out just to be a friend who was there for the free food, and many others who simply lie about being single. Guys, if you have to lie to get sex, you are doing it wrong.
We also, many years ago (before the internet), arranged to meet a couple 150 miles from us (we lived in a very remote place at the time), and upon arriving at his place, there was no wife. He did not seem too weird, and the wife was interested, so I watched TV while they went into a bedroom. It took about 10 minutes for her to come out and say it was time to go. On the long drive home, I found out that she decided to call it a day when he wanted her to wear long red socks to play in.
The one thing we have discovered in our 40+ years in the LS, is guys who will lie to get into your bed, are also seldom any good in bed. They are too self absorbed to care about their partner's pleasure, and focus only on themselves. Because of this, we are pretty selective about those "single" guys. We don't play with cheaters, and we have to get to know someone pretty well before they will get through our "single guy" barrier.
If single guys really want to participate in the LS, they should locate a willing female who will be their date for LS events. There are many ladies out there who would appreciate a guy to provide some stability in their hunt, we know of several ourselves. Develop a relationship with a lady like that and then you have a couple. Otherwise, you will be forced to reap the results of the flakey singles out there.
We also, many years ago (before the internet), arranged to meet a couple 150 miles from us (we lived in a very remote place at the time), and upon arriving at his place, there was no wife. He did not seem too weird, and the wife was interested, so I watched TV while they went into a bedroom. It took about 10 minutes for her to come out and say it was time to go. On the long drive home, I found out that she decided to call it a day when he wanted her to wear long red socks to play in.
The one thing we have discovered in our 40+ years in the LS, is guys who will lie to get into your bed, are also seldom any good in bed. They are too self absorbed to care about their partner's pleasure, and focus only on themselves. Because of this, we are pretty selective about those "single" guys. We don't play with cheaters, and we have to get to know someone pretty well before they will get through our "single guy" barrier.
If single guys really want to participate in the LS, they should locate a willing female who will be their date for LS events. There are many ladies out there who would appreciate a guy to provide some stability in their hunt, we know of several ourselves. Develop a relationship with a lady like that and then you have a couple. Otherwise, you will be forced to reap the results of the flakey singles out there.
I hope I don't come across as creepy and just want to meet cool people and find fun freinds to share the lifstyle with. Has to just happen can't make it happen.
experience wrote:
We had two pretty bad experiences with Single guys from this site.
1) Talk to a guy for awhile, we set up a meet in a public place as always, he text ok I'm on my way.. I'm 5 mins out... I'm parking.. then nothing totally gone! We just looked at each other and were like why go through all that bullshit just not to show up!
2) After that we just did not want to deal with single men any longer so, the next guy that we had been talking to we just politely told him, "Thanks but we talked about it and after this bad experience we have decided to not look for a single male any longer." To put it very mildly the guy went totally nuts, to this day we don't know how he did it, but he stalked the Ms, found out both our names, her cell number our address, all kinds of threats, including telling her "I know where you live I'm on my way over there" This was total psycho behavior, 1 text would be "You fucked up whore" next would be "I'm sorry I said that I didn't mean it" then "I'm coming over to fuck you in the ass" then "Oh sorry I'm just upset" on and on.. Then he said to us, I hate when I get like this, I've done this to 3 other couples!! We had to call the police. Of course we reported him to the admit here on Swingular. They never even got back to us, he's still on here, I hope he just doesn’t end up hurting anyone, this guy need to be in jail.
Please Doxx this guy's account for communities safety
Swingular won’t respond about threatening members? Thats fucked up!
We got ghosted with a puppy after having an MFM who was asking too many questions about if we've ever had roommates and if we'd be hypothetically open to having another one (he really meant him, but we knew what he was asking). Hell to the fucking no.
Anyway, for some asinine reason I think he decided we were going to say yes after the sex, but he got the puppy 2 days before we had our threesome, and then a few days after, he made excuses about needing a dog sitter and never showed up when he was supposed to.
Puppy was legally ours after 72 hours of being abandoned, and we did not want a small puppy; our elderly dog was stressing out and the cats were also stressing out, so off to animal services he went. He was probably around 7-9 weeks old when we got dumped with him.
He had good taste in puppies, it was rather cute. This was also in 2017, so if anyone else got a free dog, it was probably the same guy.
Anyway, for some asinine reason I think he decided we were going to say yes after the sex, but he got the puppy 2 days before we had our threesome, and then a few days after, he made excuses about needing a dog sitter and never showed up when he was supposed to.
Puppy was legally ours after 72 hours of being abandoned, and we did not want a small puppy; our elderly dog was stressing out and the cats were also stressing out, so off to animal services he went. He was probably around 7-9 weeks old when we got dumped with him.
He had good taste in puppies, it was rather cute. This was also in 2017, so if anyone else got a free dog, it was probably the same guy.
This is FUN! :-)
Nice looking "single" (you'll see why I use quotation marks) dude at a house party. Ms. Evil is feelin' it and they're flirting and starting to get even MORE friendly. Dude is, I guess, trying to be complimentary and tells her she's beautiful and reminds him of his girlfriend.
She does a bit of a double-take, looks at him a little funny and asks, "You have a girlfriend?". Yes, he tells her, he does. "Does she know where you are and what you're doing?". He assures her that his girlfriend does NOT know any of that. At this point, she's pretty turned off and I guess he realizes he kind of blew it. So she stops what they're doing and scoots away under the pretext of grabbing her drink. He looks a little surprised and sits back as well.
They keep talking a little more and I think he realizes that he probably isn't going to be getting any, but slowly brings up the idea of possibly going into one of the play areas and my lovely wife tells him to call his girlfriend up and see if she'd like to join the three of us. This apparently makes him a little mad and before he can stop himself he blurts out, "There is no way in HELL I would EVER let her fuck another man!" Game, set and match.
The disgusted look on both our faces is enough to tell him he needs to get out of our faces. LMFAO! Sadly, he wasn't the first or the LAST to admit that he, while perfectly happy to fuck someone else's partner, would NEVER allow his partner to have sex with ANYONE but him. It's actually a VERY common attitude among many single guys we've met. Go figure!
Nice looking "single" (you'll see why I use quotation marks) dude at a house party. Ms. Evil is feelin' it and they're flirting and starting to get even MORE friendly. Dude is, I guess, trying to be complimentary and tells her she's beautiful and reminds him of his girlfriend.
She does a bit of a double-take, looks at him a little funny and asks, "You have a girlfriend?". Yes, he tells her, he does. "Does she know where you are and what you're doing?". He assures her that his girlfriend does NOT know any of that. At this point, she's pretty turned off and I guess he realizes he kind of blew it. So she stops what they're doing and scoots away under the pretext of grabbing her drink. He looks a little surprised and sits back as well.
They keep talking a little more and I think he realizes that he probably isn't going to be getting any, but slowly brings up the idea of possibly going into one of the play areas and my lovely wife tells him to call his girlfriend up and see if she'd like to join the three of us. This apparently makes him a little mad and before he can stop himself he blurts out, "There is no way in HELL I would EVER let her fuck another man!" Game, set and match.
The disgusted look on both our faces is enough to tell him he needs to get out of our faces. LMFAO! Sadly, he wasn't the first or the LAST to admit that he, while perfectly happy to fuck someone else's partner, would NEVER allow his partner to have sex with ANYONE but him. It's actually a VERY common attitude among many single guys we've met. Go figure!
So you gotta love a forum question specifically designed to bash on single guys. I guess the disclaimer makes it all ok. I didn’t read all the responses but I feel duty bound to represent. Haha!
So, from someone who’s been on both sides of the coin here’s my thinking. Is there a greater propensity to find an unsavory single guy versus an unsavory couple? Yeah maybe, but maybe not. See with a couple it only takes one of the pair to make things go bad. Doesn’t that double your chances? I’m guessing most single guy idiocy comes from a lack of knowledge and understanding about the lifestyle. Experience solves a lot of issues.
All this being said I don’t know that creating a forum question specifically to bash on any group really advances the narrative. Probably fun for some but might also just do a little harm at the same time. We’re all in this to make connections and have fun. My guess is this group as a whole is way more openminded and accepting of people than an average sampling. Hopefully I/we can show kindness, acceptance, understanding, and love for people of all demographics.
So, from someone who’s been on both sides of the coin here’s my thinking. Is there a greater propensity to find an unsavory single guy versus an unsavory couple? Yeah maybe, but maybe not. See with a couple it only takes one of the pair to make things go bad. Doesn’t that double your chances? I’m guessing most single guy idiocy comes from a lack of knowledge and understanding about the lifestyle. Experience solves a lot of issues.
All this being said I don’t know that creating a forum question specifically to bash on any group really advances the narrative. Probably fun for some but might also just do a little harm at the same time. We’re all in this to make connections and have fun. My guess is this group as a whole is way more openminded and accepting of people than an average sampling. Hopefully I/we can show kindness, acceptance, understanding, and love for people of all demographics.
Dudeperfect wrote:
So you gotta love a forum question specifically designed to bash on single guys. I guess the disclaimer makes it all ok. I didn’t read all the responses but I feel duty bound to represent. Haha!
So, from someone who’s been on both sides of the coin here’s my thinking. Is there a greater propensity to find an unsavory single guy versus an unsavory couple? Yeah maybe, but maybe not. See with a couple it only takes one of the pair to make things go bad. Doesn’t that double your chances? I’m guessing most single guy idiocy comes from a lack of knowledge and understanding about the lifestyle. Experience solves a lot of issues.
All this being said I don’t think know that creating a forum question specifically to bash on any group really advances the narrative. Probably fun for some but might also just do a little harm at the same time. We’re all in this to make connections and have fun. My guess is this group as a whole is way more openminded and accepting of people than an average sampling. Hopefully I/we can show kindness, acceptance, understanding, and love for people of all demographics.
"I’m guessing most single guy idiocy comes from a lack of knowledge and understanding about the lifestyle. Experience solves a lot of issues."
True, in a general sense. But specifically it's guys who think the lifestyle is a quick, easy, no-strings way to get laid without even having to so much as spring for a drink and that ALL married women in the lifestyle are full-on nymphos who are ready and willing to fuck ANYONE at ANY time, ANYWHERE...and their husbands are impotent cucks incapable of satisfying their women and in desperate need of SM cock to show them how inadequate they are.
Yes, this is hyperbole but it's also more accurate than most would care to admit. We've been around the lifestyle since 1989! And, believe it or not, there was no such animal as a single male (or a unicorn for that matter) when we started swinging. I vividly remember the first magazine ad (that's how we connected pre-internet) for a single male and showed it to some swinger friends at a house party. We all were quite amused and openly wondered how a single guy could ever be a swinger (it wasn't called "the lifestyle" yet) since he didn't have a partner to swap with.
And it's not necessarily about being "open-minded" as much as it's about what someone brings to the table...whether it's mad sex skills in the body of a male model, a 12-inch dick, or even a hot sexy partner that possibly both members of the other couple can play with. Unfortunately swinging isn't an egalitarian system and people in the lifestyle aren't usually looking for people who are sexually deprived to altruistically donate orgasms to.
I understand why single guys would take offense to a thread dedicated to exposing people’s worst SM experiences. On the other hand, it does seem like the single male population is more willing to go to greater depths when looking for sex than SF or couples. Granted, females often don’t HAVE to look too hard and couples get the benefit of a doubt because we’re mostly all couples interacting with other couples. The challenge with couples is often finding mutual attraction, not trying to spy out red flags in order to avoid a high risk individual. I say “high risk” not because single males are high risk, single males willing to deceive and coerce are high risk. We know if they’re willing to sink that low then we can’t be sure what other situations they’ve been in that could affect our health or safety.
That being said, a forum like this could help others see those red flags and be safer. Won’t stop the wifey and I from looking for quality single males when the mood strikes us...but we always have to keep our guard up and filter out those that male warning bells ring.
That being said, a forum like this could help others see those red flags and be safer. Won’t stop the wifey and I from looking for quality single males when the mood strikes us...but we always have to keep our guard up and filter out those that male warning bells ring.