While this is from a dating site which means it's automatically biased, I thought the spirit behind it was great. It's more accurate to me in describing my motivations and intentions. (No I don't belong to that site just yet.)
What do you think of ideas such as ethical non-monogamy?
What do you think of ideas such as ethical non-monogamy?
I think it is a great descriptor.
Wish swingular had such great definitions on bi-sexual, bi-comfortable, and bi-curious etc. but I guess that is up to ones own interpretation anyway.
HAPPYVALLEYCOUPLE1 wrote:
Wish swingular had such great definitions on bi-sexual, bi-comfortable, and bi-curious etc. but I guess that is up to ones own interpretation anyway.
Yes, I'd say it's up to the person identifying themselves; we can have all the outside opinions we like but when a person wakes up each day in their body their say is ultimately what goes. I wish more people realized this autonomy when they're in their teens rather than when they're middle-aged, heartbroken and confused as to why they can't be happy when they try to so hard to be what others want to see them be.
As we see every day, there are people who get off on the non-ethical side of things; their satisfaction comes from cheating rather than the happiness of others. I'm the opposite, that would keep anything enjoyable from being enjoyed.
CHEFFETTE wrote:HAPPYVALLEYCOUPLE1 wrote:
Wish swingular had such great definitions on bi-sexual, bi-comfortable, and bi-curious etc. but I guess that is up to ones own interpretation anyway.
Yes, I'd say it's up to the person identifying themselves; we can have all the outside opinions we like but when a person wakes up each day in their body their say is ultimately what goes. I wish more people realized this autonomy when they're in their teens rather than when they're middle-aged, heartbroken and confused as to why they can't be happy when they try to so hard to be what others want to see them be.
As we see every day, there are people who get off on the non-ethical side of things; their satisfaction comes from cheating rather than the happiness of others. I'm the opposite, that would keep anything enjoyable from being enjoyed.
Totally agree, but with age comes wisdom. Some of this would be hard to attempt as a teen due to the fact we are still growing and maturing. Trying to figure out who we are. Some more advanced than others.
Okay so I TOTALLY sorta skimmed the page but I didn't see the part about bangin' hot married swinger bitches and givin' 'em what their pathetic little wimpy tiny dicked husbands can't give 'em. Where was that part? 
We were thinking of starting a gun store for swingers and calling it "Poly Armory". But then we realized we like money too much, and investments based on bad puns are never really a good idea.
CHEFFETTE wrote:
While this is from a dating site which means it's automatically biased, I thought the spirit behind it was great. It's more accurate to me in describing my motivations and intentions. (No I don't belong to that site just yet.)
What do you think of ideas such as ethical non-monogamy?
We are pretty familiar with polyamory and the definitions on the link you shared. We are non monogamous and we consider our non monogamous behaviors ethical. In as much as we understand polyamory, and we have some friends in poly relationships, and some looking to find poly relationships, and we have had in the past, and do have in the present some on going relationships that are sexual, we really don't think we are poly in the truest sense. We are pretty darn pair bonded one to another, with no thirds or fourth to which either of us feel the same sort of life devotion like we do toward one another. Yes we both do sometimes enjoy a bit of non monogamous romance, but having never fallen out of love with each other, and having so much good history together, well something a kin to that with another just never seems to happen. For the same reason neither one of us are really looking. Plus we enjoy sex for sex sake without falling in love, and that is more swinger behavior than poly. We have been in a few "condom commitment" relationships too.
A few other "Poly Ideas" we have had...a beach resort for swingers called "Poly Shore". Jeans with special condom holders made exclusively for the lifestyle called "Poly Pockets". A full time art school for swingers run by "Leave it to Beaver's" Tony Dow,called "Poly Wally Doodle all the Day" . The high end grocery store/basketball arena for lifestylers called "Poly Pavilions". But it turns out it was just a slightly nicer "Poly Vons" grocery store/basketball arena. And lastly a white supremisist lifestyle dating site called "Poly want a Cracker".
Hey ERASEDPANTS. You guys seem like a really pun couple. 
ERASEDPANTS wrote:
A few other "Poly Ideas" we have had...a beach resort for swingers called "Poly Shore". Jeans with special condom holders made exclusively for the lifestyle called "Poly Pockets". A full time art school for swingers run by "Leave it to Beaver's" Tony Dow,called "Poly Wally Doodle all the Day" . The high end grocery store/basketball arena for lifestylers called "Poly Pavilions". But it turns out it was just a slightly nicer "Poly Vons" grocery store/basketball arena. And lastly a white supremisist lifestyle dating site called "Poly want a Cracker".
You sound like maybe you attended Cal Poly?
CHEFFETTE wrote:HAPPYVALLEYCOUPLE1 wrote:
Wish swingular had such great definitions on bi-sexual, bi-comfortable, and bi-curious etc. but I guess that is up to ones own interpretation anyway.
Yes, I'd say it's up to the person identifying themselves; we can have all the outside opinions we like but when a person wakes up each day in their body their say is ultimately what goes. I wish more people realized this autonomy when they're in their teens rather than when they're middle-aged, heartbroken and confused as to why they can't be happy when they try to so hard to be what others want to see them be.
As we see every day, there are people who get off on the non-ethical side of things; their satisfaction comes from cheating rather than the happiness of others. I'm the opposite, that would keep anything enjoyable from being enjoyed.
Very well put.
ERASEDPANTS wrote:So if you try poly and it doesn't work out, do you call it a Poly-Gone?
A few other "Poly Ideas" we have had...a beach resort for swingers called "Poly Shore". Jeans with special condom holders made exclusively for the lifestyle called "Poly Pockets". A full time art school for swingers run by "Leave it to Beaver's" Tony Dow,called "Poly Wally Doodle all the Day" . The high end grocery store/basketball arena for lifestylers called "Poly Pavilions". But it turns out it was just a slightly nicer "Poly Vons" grocery store/basketball arena. And lastly a white supremisist lifestyle dating site called "Poly want a Cracker".
ENLIGHTENED wrote:ERASEDPANTS wrote:So if you try poly and it doesn't work out, do you call it a Poly-Gone?
A few other "Poly Ideas" we have had...a beach resort for swingers called "Poly Shore". Jeans with special condom holders made exclusively for the lifestyle called "Poly Pockets". A full time art school for swingers run by "Leave it to Beaver's" Tony Dow,called "Poly Wally Doodle all the Day" . The high end grocery store/basketball arena for lifestylers called "Poly Pavilions". But it turns out it was just a slightly nicer "Poly Vons" grocery store/basketball arena. And lastly a white supremisist lifestyle dating site called "Poly want a Cracker".
Nice!
There is the lifestyle diet center called "Poly-nomials". It is a cutting edge process where you achieve weight loss by getting counseling on past relationships. The weight loss is exponetial as you solve the "X".
A little geeky algebra joke for you all to figure out and enjoy. That's a lot of thinking for one joke. Haha
A little geeky algebra joke for you all to figure out and enjoy. That's a lot of thinking for one joke. Haha
UTARD61 wrote:CHEFFETTE wrote:
[quote=HAPPYVALLEYCOUPLE1]Wish swingular had such great definitions on bi-sexual, bi-comfortable, and bi-curious etc. but I guess that is up to ones own interpretation anyway.
Yes, I'd say it's up to the person identifying themselves; we can have all the outside opinions we like but when a person wakes up each day in their body their say is ultimately what goes. I wish more people realized this autonomy when they're in their teens rather than when they're middle-aged, heartbroken and confused as to why they can't be happy when they try to so hard to be what others want to see them be.
As we see every day, there are people who get off on the non-ethical side of things; their satisfaction comes from cheating rather than the happiness of others. I'm the opposite, that would keep anything enjoyable from being enjoyed.
Very well put.[/quote]
Thank you! (Sorry, only just saw this.)
We did the poly thing once but the other male wanted more attention from dawn and it went south after that so we stick to married swapping with singles on the side to help with fantacys
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Has anyone read the book, The Ethical Slut? There is also a web series by the same name. Watched the series over the weekend and have started to read the book, pretty interesting. Would love to hear thoughts of others.
Interesting. Though some of these terms are not commonly used in the Utah poly community. It's also doesn't include quite a few of the more common terms or relationship definitions. More than two is a common reference for those starting out. Its terms and definitions are the ones used most frequently in the Utah groups. Personally, I think labels are an easy shortcut to help others understand how you define yourself. Ethical non-monogamy is a term I've used to describe my relationships and to define how my partners and I engage our honest,open and non-monogamous polyamorous relationship style.
As far as sex is concerned, there are terms that may define something you want to try, or do, and there are terms that may somewhat define who you are. The line is kind of blurry. Some people, by nature, are really pair bonders, and by nature might gravitate toward a committed relationship with one other person, and yet they want to have sex with others, or have sex with their friends. Some people, by nature, may want to have committed relationships, with more than one person. The same can be said for gender preference. Some people are not interested in any thing that resembles a committed relationship, but do want to have sexual relationships. There are all sorts of variations in preference and most people are a bit fluid in their desires. Perhaps all of the above can be ethical, so long as honesty, consent, respect, fairness and a genuine interest in everyone's happiness and welfare is offered toward everyone affected by the relationships, whether they be casual or committed. Honest, inclusive communication it would seem, would be a key factor for any sexual relationship to begin or remain ethical. Even if two or more people, discover, through open communication, that they don't want the same things and they decide to have sex anyway, it could still be ethical. There will always be some risk in relationships.