We read so many profiles on here, who claim to be here for the
"broadening of our experiences", or "up for anything", "exploring new things", or even "just want to meet new and fun, exiciting people"
Are you really??? Or do you mean just people who look like you, or are your age, etc.
WE have our preferances, of course, but, We REALLY are open to meeting different folks, We have enjoyed meeting, and even playing with folks skinnier, and bigger, people considerably younger than us, and older, as well..although have to admit, it's getting harder for us to get find folks "considerably older"..hmmmm...
No, we don't hit it off with everyone, but it is not usually because of their age, or physique..it is more often just personalities that don't quite click...That said..we really do enjoy the VARIETY of experinces...
DO you? REALLY???
Ok..We'll hang up and listen..
"broadening of our experiences", or "up for anything", "exploring new things", or even "just want to meet new and fun, exiciting people"
Are you really??? Or do you mean just people who look like you, or are your age, etc.
WE have our preferances, of course, but, We REALLY are open to meeting different folks, We have enjoyed meeting, and even playing with folks skinnier, and bigger, people considerably younger than us, and older, as well..although have to admit, it's getting harder for us to get find folks "considerably older"..hmmmm...
No, we don't hit it off with everyone, but it is not usually because of their age, or physique..it is more often just personalities that don't quite click...That said..we really do enjoy the VARIETY of experinces...
DO you? REALLY???
Ok..We'll hang up and listen..
For the most part, we completely agree! However, with those preferences we have found we like an age range closer to us. Probably within ten to fifteen years each way. Sometimes the younger couple will make me feel like a pedophile and the older couple may make me feel like Rob Schnieder. Is that a hard fast rule? Not in the least, it's a preference that we have found. As far as body types, I (the mr) find women absolutely beautiful and can appreciate what a woman has to offer no matter what the body type. Again for us, it's all about personality. Honestly, with the Mrs. it's even more so about the personality.
were about trying new things then we go home and play together after were done with couples...
Thanks for the input...One of the reasons I..MR. TiffnD ask this, is a conversation I had with Mrs the other night...Quite simply, and perhaps a bit crudely put..sorry.."The BEST fuck I ever had" (aside from the Mrs..wheeew) was a girl who absolutely didn't fit my preferances...She was incredible..EVERYTIME! Yes..we definately managed to meet more than a few times!
Tiff n D ....you may not remwmber but we have met before ...it was at a house party in nsl ...not going to mentoin whos on here ....i hit it off with Tiff and well things progressed and she REALLY ENJOYED IT! !! And you seemed to be very happy she enjoyed herself ...i think your a pretty cool couple ...i have read some of your booty calls and posts and it seemes as your not down wilh sm ...i understand D deserves his peice of strange also ...D we have common intrests also ...you dont need to like me but im telling you your probably passing up opprotunites on here for real friends ..maybe you dont really need more im not sure ...and just cause a person is listed as single doesnt mean tgey cant bring something to the table: ie SF...i tried to contact you once to say hi but i beleive sm are blocked from your profile ...i understand you may be annoyed with all the fucktards and thats a good way to weed them out ...
VANAHEIM wrote:
For the most part, we completely agree! However, with those preferences we have found we like an age range closer to us. Probably within ten to fifteen years each way. Sometimes the younger couple will make me feel like a pedophile and the older couple may make me feel like Rob Schnieder. Is that a hard fast rule? Not in the least, it's a preference that we have found. As far as body types, I (the mr) find women absolutely beautiful and can appreciate what a woman has to offer no matter what the body type. Again for us, it's all about personality. Honestly, with the Mrs. it's even more so about the personality.
Well said...this point of view does pretty much mirror ours...yep! As we mentioned..we do have preferances...everyone does, of course, but they are NOT boundries, by any means!
TIFFND wrote:I do. But I don't fuck everyone, in fact I bed very few, and that's a problem here. There are a chitload of profiles here claiming "If we don't click, no hard feelings, we love meeting new friends." Then, when you don't click, and don't want to fuck them, it's the cold shoulder, nada, no saying hi on a forum even. It's like going back to Jr High when the boyfriend's bailing out (or you're bailing out!) and you agree that "Oh, yeah, we can still be friends!" Yeah, right.
We read so many profiles on here, who claim to be here for the
"broadening of our experiences", or "up for anything", "exploring new things", or even "just want to meet new and fun, exiciting people"
Are you really??? Or do you mean just people who look like you, or are your age, etc.
WE have our preferances, of course, but, We REALLY are open to meeting different folks, We have enjoyed meeting, and even playing with folks skinnier, and bigger, people considerably younger than us, and older, as well..although have to admit, it's getting harder for us to get find folks "considerably older"..hmmmm...
No, we don't hit it off with everyone, but it is not usually because of their age, or physique..it is more often just personalities that don't quite click...That said..we really do enjoy the VARIETY of experinces...
DO you? REALLY???
Ok..We'll hang up and listen..
I just feel that this place is so dominated by males looking to fuck anything that moves (I know, there's lots of sweet sexy guys on here too, I'm just saying, there seems to be a preponderance of the "Oh wait, it's a hole, better stick my dick in it before it moves" type of guy) and I'm more interested in jumping the bones of people I can be friends with.
And there is truly not anything wrong with wanting to just fuck anything that moves -- but for gawd sake just be open about it and say in your profile that you're ONLY looking for fucking and don't put that fake "Oh gosh, we love meeting new people even if it doesn't work into sex" kinda bullshit that you don't even mean.
So yeah, TiffnD, I guess it's the last example you use in your post that has really kinda turned me off here.
OK, my rant of the day is over here ... back to blogging and hunting down sexy guys and couples at some local haunts (and I've gotta admit, I did find some new "local haunts" using advice from this forum, so it's not all bad after-all!
)Ahhh..single males...Since we are being honest here....Mrs TiffnD does have a good time with guys...single or not..BUT her preferance, sorry guys, is to get to play with the girls, as well...so..inspite of your referance to my "bit of strange"..it is not only mine...but hers as well. Single guys with dates..great! But single guys alone...not anywhere near as much to offer. Couple that with a very unsettling experience with a single guy actually trying to drag her away from a swinger event we attended early in our lifestyle days....she has little desire for single guys anymore...and I seldom let her out of my sight.
And..yes..I agree with what you so delicately did NOT say...this does appear to be something other than what we are professing here...But...
"Just the fact's, M'am" As Joe Friday would say.
And..yes..I agree with what you so delicately did NOT say...this does appear to be something other than what we are professing here...But...
"Just the fact's, M'am" As Joe Friday would say.
Pals, that may be the first I've heard of any swinging adventure dominated by males. Yah, the vocal minority are definitely out there but I'll tell you, I have read several articles on swinging as a society and the LS is generally considered matriarchal society. I think it's mostly because guys will fuck nearly anyone but if the wife's not into it, it's not happening! Sorry you've had some bad experiences and good luck in the future!
FYI usatoday did a great article back in 2012 and the NY times also did one in 2010. I Time dedicated a whole magazine to several articles on the subject in 2002 which sparked an ABC "investigation" into the lifestyle and they did a pretty decent expose on it. Pretty interesting stuff if you want to check them out.
FYI usatoday did a great article back in 2012 and the NY times also did one in 2010. I Time dedicated a whole magazine to several articles on the subject in 2002 which sparked an ABC "investigation" into the lifestyle and they did a pretty decent expose on it. Pretty interesting stuff if you want to check them out.
Gotta agree Pals!! Yep....WE have made some great friends here..and yes some are ones we just don't click with sexually, perhaps that is just an accident..or chance that we remain friends...but..let's all agree...most folks here to play...yep!
Vannaheim and Tiffnd, perhaps what I mean by "male dominated" is simply that it's the guys trying to make the hook-ups and if you turn them down, they typically ain't happy campers. The married ones are the worst. They want to meet up and EXPECT to play right away yet they have NO pics available of the male half (but look, lookey at my wife, ain't she pretty?). Well I'm into guys. And it's agreed that we're ULTIMATELY here to play, but lots of folks take different routes to get there. Expecting me to play with hubby, 'cause the wife is cute is a male-dominated train of thought. Why are there almost NO pics of hubby up there, with a full hard on, from different angles. Yet the women are posed all over the place like toys while the men hide in the background? 'Cause it's a "matriarchal" society? LOL Nope, because if a hubby #2 likes hubby #1's wife, or a wife #2 like's hubby #1's wife, then there's a good chance that hubby #1 is gonna get him some regardless of his looks, personality, or behavior. Good ol' wife-swappin' at it's finest.
PALS4FUN wrote:
Vannaheim and Tiffnd, perhaps what I mean by "male dominated" is simply that it's the guys trying to make the hook-ups and if you turn them down, they typically ain't happy campers. The married ones are the worst. They want to meet up and EXPECT to play right away yet they have NO pics available of the male half (but look, lookey at my wife, ain't she pretty?). Well I'm into guys. And it's agreed that we're ULTIMATELY here to play, but lots of folks take different routes to get there. Expecting me to play with hubby, 'cause the wife is cute is a male-dominated train of thought. Why are there almost NO pics of hubby up there, with a full hard on, from different angles. Yet the women are posed all over the place like toys while the men hide in the background? 'Cause it's a "matriarchal" society? LOL Nope, because if a hubby #2 likes hubby #1's wife, or a wife #2 like's hubby #1's wife, then there's a good chance that hubby #1 is gonna get him some regardless of his looks, personality, or behavior. Good ol' wife-swappin' at it's finest.
So does this mean we ain't "Hookin' Up"? Double Damn...
You make as good point Pals..yes indeed!
TIFFND wrote:
Ahhh..single males...Since we are being honest here....Mrs TiffnD does have a good time with guys...single or not..BUT her preferance, sorry guys, is to get to play with the girls, as well...so..inspite of your referance to my "bit of strange"..it is not only mine...but hers as well. Single guys with dates..great! But single guys alone...not anywhere near as much to offer. Couple that with a very unsettling experience with a single guy actually trying to drag her away from a swinger event we attended early in our lifestyle days....she has little desire for single guys anymore...and I seldom let her out of my sight.
And..yes..I agree with what you so delicately did NOT say...this does appear to be something other than what we are professing here...But...
"Just the fact's, M'am" As Joe Frida
Great example of the cold shoulder Doug! !!
y would say.
Great example of the cold shoulder doug !!!
1FUNN1 wrote:Ahhh.well...I tried to explain it as honestly as I could..sorry it didn't include "ok..come bang my wife" But I don't offer that, that is up to her....All I can say is...
Great example of the cold shoulder doug !!!
Great example of a guy..single or not..just not getting it.
Pals, sorry for the offense, none was meant. I offered an opinion, and you obviously didn't want one. Well, one that differed from yours anyway. So I apologize again for the offense, I realize it was Tiff that offered the forum not you and I should have commented on what they asked and not what you posted because again, my opinion is different.
I always forget, it's NOT about the nail. That should be my meditation mantra "it's not about the nail, it's not about the nail, it's not about the nail."
I always forget, it's NOT about the nail. That should be my meditation mantra "it's not about the nail, it's not about the nail, it's not about the nail."
Friends? Absolutely! Hangin', shootin' the shit, laughin' our asses off? Yup. But gettin' busy, well we kinda have to be attracted to you. I mean if you aren't attracted to someone physically what's the point of fucking them? Just another notch on the bedpost? Doing it on the outside chance that they turn out to be a great lay? So yeah, we'll hang with just about anybody and have fun and talk and drink or whatever. But at some point most people want to fuck and we just can't fuck for the sake of fucking. Maybe we're wired differently or something. Not to say that if we click in other ways we might eventually become MORE attracted to an individual and maybe even fuck 'em but most people get butt hurt if you don't eventually end up fucking them. Human nature I guess. In the end we all create our own experience and do what works best for us. Unfortunately sometimes people take exception to the fact that you don't swing exactly the way THEY swing. Meh *shrugs* 
VANAHEIM wrote:
Pals, sorry for the offense, none was meant. I offered an opinion, and you obviously didn't want one. Well, one that differed from yours anyway. So I apologize again for the offense,
Watch it. You are getting close to sounding like me. However Pals does have a point. Most men will nail anything that walks or crawls and get pissed when a woman turns him down and a lot of the couples here are really male driven. That may be a Utah twist but it often seems to be that way It is what the man wants and to hell with his wife.
Some women will do the same but are not as vocal about it. A man has to work hard to get a woman to notice him and a woman only has to wiggle a finger or her hips. Not fair at all. Turn one of those down and you need to hide your jewels.
Although I am not opposed to nailing strange I to have preferences and to begin with it is that a woman has a personality and a brain. All too often I find a woman interesting and her other half is 200 pounds over weight or has a 2 inch dick and my lady is not interested. Just to be clear, that is one inch less than Pals claims for her husband.
Now I have not met her or her hubby. She wants pictures but has none of her own. There is no way to verify the one in her profile belongs to her. I have never seen a pic of her other half. Maybe he does not exist and her picture is alone and placed as eye candy. So what does she expect?
A couple of year
We started swinging when Mrs. Delicious was in her early 40s and Mr. Delicious was in his late 40s he might have been 50. It was either 2004 or 2005 we started doing this. We have had sex with people in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s. We have had sex with people from other lands and ethnic backgrounds. We have had sex with people with a variety of body types. We have our favorites. Mrs, Delicious prefers tall thin hipped men and leggy women but she enjoys other body types too. Mr. Delicious prefers tall women with long legs but he enjoys other body types too. Really we prefer each other over everyone else but we do love to play!
If you are very selective you can be construed as being cliquish. If you try some from most columns on the menu you can be construed as being slutty. Look deep inside and what and who you desire never really emanates from what others think.
Cheers!
If you are very selective you can be construed as being cliquish. If you try some from most columns on the menu you can be construed as being slutty. Look deep inside and what and who you desire never really emanates from what others think.
Cheers!
VANAHEIM wrote:LOL, didn't know that I "took offense!" I tried to further explain what I was talking about. Sorry that I offended you by trying to clarify my statement and feelings. I should have just let it go misunderstood.
Pals, sorry for the offense, none was meant. I offered an opinion, and you obviously didn't want one. Well, one that differed from yours anyway. So I apologize again for the offense, I realize it was Tiff that offered the forum not you and I should have commented on what they asked and not what you posted because again, my opinion is different.
I always forget, it's NOT about the nail. That should be my meditation mantra "it's not about the nail, it's not about the nail, it's not about the nail."
But seriously, I took no offense and rather enjoy both sides of any topic.[quote=SUGARSANDSPICE]
A couple of year
A couple of year
Mrs pals.. BANG TAKE THAT !! Wow that guy was pretty pissed from being turned down ...i see why you did it too ...and mr spice while you may be very intellectual your view of swinging is only your opinion ..traditionally swinging took two couples ...thats old fashond shit nowdays ...you have a clue how many people on here like threesoms? And its the women that llve the attention of two men ...very seldomly do two women want to share one man in comparison to a mmf threesome ...its totally fine to have your ideals in this world of swinging...IT IS NOT ONLY A COUPLES WORLD HERE ANYMORE ...great idea for a website! ! Why doesnt someone make one for couples only for all those who dont want to be hit up by singles ....i was once a couple in the lifestyle ...getting four people to " cliq" isnt nearly as three...i enjoy the freedom a single in the ls provides...gotta have thick skin here ...get turned down ...move along ...
Would everyone just sleep with everyone else so we can be open minded....please! This has inspired Ms. Karma and I to send out demand letters to Gisele and Tom, Angelina and Brad and AJ McCarron and his fianc
PALS4FUN wrote:
Thank you for so emphatically emphasizing what I was trying to say about turning someone down and they get all pissy! I couldn't have demonstrated it better than you just did! Ya pretty much just tossed out everything except that my momma wears combat boots.
Anyhoo, I honestly don't remember being pursued by you for "a couple of months." I remember turning you away once. Sorry for the rejection.
I apologize if I offended you and didn
Just because they say open minded and want new experiences does not remove the fact that everyone most likely has TYPES... and what they are looking for. It does not mean they are liars because obviously they are here to experience outside of whom is already in their bedroom.
We can say that we want others who take care of their body and are closer to our age... When we are turned down we can still be civil and friends because let's face it, not everyone is going to want to jump everyone's bones! We have had many instances where we turn others down and they get all bent out of shape, delete us and won't talk with us at parties. It's stupid and beyond silly, but hey, what can you do? Move on!
We love making new friends with all types of people but are very selective with who we play with and when we click with people we want to play with that's when the mind is open to crazy new experiences n such.
Hope that clarifies, at least why we would think people put that on their profile. Not everyone is here to play with all kinds of ages, ethnicity and sizes. So just find people who have the same interests as you do and don't get butt hurt when it doesn't work with some.
We can say that we want others who take care of their body and are closer to our age... When we are turned down we can still be civil and friends because let's face it, not everyone is going to want to jump everyone's bones! We have had many instances where we turn others down and they get all bent out of shape, delete us and won't talk with us at parties. It's stupid and beyond silly, but hey, what can you do? Move on!
We love making new friends with all types of people but are very selective with who we play with and when we click with people we want to play with that's when the mind is open to crazy new experiences n such.
Hope that clarifies, at least why we would think people put that on their profile. Not everyone is here to play with all kinds of ages, ethnicity and sizes. So just find people who have the same interests as you do and don't get butt hurt when it doesn't work with some.
You don't find me sexually interesting, SUGAR? 
What about you PALS? And don't let the fact that I'm heavily armed and extremely emotionally unstable influence your answer here.
What about you PALS? And don't let the fact that I'm heavily armed and extremely emotionally unstable influence your answer here.
No. Don't cry. I am sorry about that but your wife may be a different story. Haven
So you're saying there's still hope? 
Friends Yes, Sex not so much. But who knows. Strange things do happen.
Fine! I'm goin' back to AFF and Craigslist where people aren't so damned picky.
C'mon PALS, let's go.
PALS?
Love ya man. You are funny.
You still crack me up Mr Evil! LOL
Thanks everyone for jumping in on this thread. I posted it mostly because I was bored..frankly. And perhaps to encourage a little thought. Anyone who knows me, knows I will often argue a point of view..whether I really believe it or not, just to stimulate thought. We DO appreciate all the friends we've made here..of all ages and body types...and no..we don't have sex with all of them. Some we do..but like most everyone here, we have are preferances and those we "click" with. That said..We have found we "click" with some folks definately out of our preferance range. Most freindships, though, envolve only playful flashing..or flirting, etc. Something not often found in the "vanilla" freindships. Something we both really enjoy.
BTW..Karma..I DO like and agree with what you wrote! Thank you!
Thanks everyone for jumping in on this thread. I posted it mostly because I was bored..frankly. And perhaps to encourage a little thought. Anyone who knows me, knows I will often argue a point of view..whether I really believe it or not, just to stimulate thought. We DO appreciate all the friends we've made here..of all ages and body types...and no..we don't have sex with all of them. Some we do..but like most everyone here, we have are preferances and those we "click" with. That said..We have found we "click" with some folks definately out of our preferance range. Most freindships, though, envolve only playful flashing..or flirting, etc. Something not often found in the "vanilla" freindships. Something we both really enjoy.
BTW..Karma..I DO like and agree with what you wrote! Thank you!
I'm not sure about the rest of you but knowing evil is heavily armed and unstable makes them a bit more interesting to me! As far as this whole conversation goes...we have met or chatted with a bunch of great couples and a bunch of not so great couples. We have made some great friends and in my opinion that's what makes the lifestyle so fantastic. But reading all these posts has definitely opened my eyes and I thank you all for that!!
It's funny we have vanilla friends from our old neighborhood that we have known for years, they are probably our best friends; they come over every 3 or 4 weeks for music, pool and dinner. We probably touch and play more with them than the friends we have on here (I know they don't sound very vanilla). They came over last weekend, and were even more forward than usual...kind of caught us off guard. We talk with them a lot about our experiences with nude resorts, it is just a great thing when you can be completely who you are whether in or out of the lifestyle and your friends will always be with you. Should have started my own post with this blog comments, but hey....
HARLEYCOUPLELOOKING wrote:
I'm not sure about the rest of you but knowing evil is heavily armed and unstable makes them a bit more interesting to me! As far as this whole conversation goes...we have met or chatted with a bunch of great couples and a bunch of not so great couples. We have made some great friends and in my opinion that's what makes the lifestyle so fantastic. But reading all these posts has definitely opened my eyes and I thank you all for that!!
I am just jealous that Mr. Evil has a greater knowledge of the use of the little smiley face things than I do...but does he have one for clumsily optimistic????
GOODKARMA1211 wrote:HARLEYCOUPLELOOKING wrote:
I'm not sure about the rest of you but knowing evil is heavily armed and unstable makes them a bit more interesting to me! As far as this whole conversation goes...we have met or chatted with a bunch of great couples and a bunch of not so great couples. We have made some great friends and in my opinion that's what makes the lifestyle so fantastic. But reading all these posts has definitely opened my eyes and I thank you all for that!!
I am just jealous that Mr. Evil has a greater knowledge of the use of the little smiley face things than I do...but does he have one for clumsily optimistic????
...the shooting us part in a psychotic rage...ehh..we've lived a full life!
I have may pix of me because he is always buying me new outfits and he likes to take pix of them. He prefers to stay hidden in public forums but there are some pix that hint at what he looks like. Once we are friends there are more pix of him in our private album. Let's face it women want to see the face and the cock then move on to personality. They do not want 500 pix of a guy in different outfits and posing in different positions. Guys are more into eye candy and girls are more into substance. If you can't hold a conversation we don't really care if you are Chippendales dancers.
We do not judge based on pix, age, size, etc. One of my favorite people I would never have met him if I based all my decisions on profile pix. We are FWB but we are friends more than anything else (he is a damn good lay and my bareback). In fact he is trusted enough by the Mr that if I said I was going on a two week trip with him the Mr would kiss me goodbye and tell me he will see me when I get home.
We are still new to this, but the first thing we have learned is that profiles do not show personality. Just like texts do not come across the way they are meant. It takes a couple phone calls, multiple texts, and a face to face meeting before a hook up can even be considered.
Are we the only ones who have the "meet face to face first" and "don't hook up the first meeting" rules? I feel like decisions are made when horny that are regretted later.
*Ten*
We do not judge based on pix, age, size, etc. One of my favorite people I would never have met him if I based all my decisions on profile pix. We are FWB but we are friends more than anything else (he is a damn good lay and my bareback). In fact he is trusted enough by the Mr that if I said I was going on a two week trip with him the Mr would kiss me goodbye and tell me he will see me when I get home.
We are still new to this, but the first thing we have learned is that profiles do not show personality. Just like texts do not come across the way they are meant. It takes a couple phone calls, multiple texts, and a face to face meeting before a hook up can even be considered.
Are we the only ones who have the "meet face to face first" and "don't hook up the first meeting" rules? I feel like decisions are made when horny that are regretted later.
*Ten*
[quote=SUGARSANDSPICE]A couple of year
Pals: I never said their wasn't some interest shown or emails sent. I am sure you had a lot of men emailing you. I had a lot less time then and they were spaced out. After all I was one of meny. Besides, You are allowed to be forgetful at your age.Aw c'mon. Get a room already you two lovebirds. 