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City Cracking Down On Sex Parties - - Adam, It's acceptable to be intolerant of bigotry and oppression. ;) As for your lengthy rant, sorry dude you rambled too long. I lost interest. Try to stick to one idea at a time. I mean that with respect and no offense. It's just too difficult to reply to all of that, when it's so all over the place like that. Flatlander, I am not the one arguing. LOL! Spare me your personal remarks. You don't know me. Again, the article says that the city is trying to find anything they can to shut them down. That tells me that they are trying to find any excuse to shut them down. If parking were the only issue, the remedy would be simple. Park everyone remotely in a central location and VAN them in. I don't think it's the only issue. The only other issue is moral and where do morals come from??? Here's a little quote from the article: "When I bought my house, I didn't think I'd be living next to a massage parlor and brothel." What would it matter if there was a brothel or massage parlor in a neighborhood? Prostitution is wrong because Christians say it's wrong. In countries where Christianity isn't allowed to taint government, they have redlight districts. There is plenty of evidence in the article that points at the religious motivation. Another quote for ya.

How has swinging made your marriage better? - - Curious... how many of the previous posters (or anyone on here for that matter) are on their FIRST marriage and have been "successful" swingers for 4-5 years+ ? Tally those numbers and see if it makes marriages better. Would also be curious about second, third, fourth marriages (but those are harder because a lot have met in the lifestyle and/or came from a marriage that ended in infidelity). Still, have wondered. P.S. EVILDOERS Mrs cntrl has been told that a couple of times as well.

Desire - hot vaca!! - [quote=TURBOLOVER]We are looking at doing the MSC DIVINA April 2016 - Eastern Caribbean Full Ship Charter, anyone been on one of these and can you share you thoughts, it looks awesome? ?? Thank you very much [/quote] We will probably be doing BOTH of the major upcoming cruises.. the one in November (Bliss Cruise) and the one in April (Couples Cruise). I really don't understand why people go to the resorts when the cruises are SO MUCH better across the board, and they're cheaper, too... Speaking strictly in the context of swingers cruise versus swingers resort: -----[ Swingers Cruise Pros:]-------- - Lower Price (compared to resorts, it's a lot cheaper overall, especially when you factor in travel costs) - Easier and cheaper to get to. You generally arrive/depart out of Florida (Versus traveling for 15+ hours to get to Jamaica or something). - TONS of activities to do. Non-Stop entertainment on the ship and on the excursions. (Not a lot going on at the resorts.. one or two basic activities per day is all). - Many of the excursions are takeovers as well, so you can be naked if you want during adventure-time. (Many of the resorts are topless-only -- and if you want to do "excursions" you're mixed with the vanillas, and all vanilla rules apply). - You can be completely naked on most parts of the ship, if you want. - Dedicated play-rooms. Lots of them. (Many resorts only have one smaller area dedicated for play... which makes sense... generally only 200 to 250 people at a resort at any given time). - MASSIVE crowd. 3,500+ people on a single ship. You'll never possibly get to know even 5% of the people on the ship. (In other words, you have a huge pool of people to choose from to find people you like!!). - Better / more types of food to choose from. Better alcohol choices. - Adult-themed vegas-quality shows every single night... followed by swinger-oriented after-parties. - Higher-end facilities and nicer overall atmosphere. (Cruise-ships are equivalent to a 4-star or even 5-star hotel. swingers resorts are usually 2-star..... 3-star at best.. most are pretty worn down and kind of gross). -----[ Resort Pros:]-------- - Smaller, more intimate setting. You'll get to know everyone at the resort at the time you are there. - Much more laid back. If all you want to do is lounge by the pool all day, every day, it's for you. - You can leave the resort any time you want and venture into town. - Typically you have better access to phones, internet, TV, etc. - Rooms at the resorts are bigger (although they are NOT nicer). If you look at the activity list on a typical resort, you'll find there's only one thing going on at any given time. Most people just lounge by the pool all day, every day -- and then they go to club-style events at night. The cruise is totally different... At any given time, you can choose from 3 or 4 different activities (or just lounge by the pool)... and you can still do the club-style stuff at night IF YOU WANT.. (but there's usually other alternatives to pick from). Honestly, the ONLY major downside to the cruise compared to the resorts is that they don't do the swingers takeover cruises very often. (Once or twice a year is all you've got to pick from). So if you're picky about WHEN you go... the resort is probably your only bet. If you're flexible, don't give it a second thought... the swingers cruise is where it's at. =)

Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - Lor is a Sagittarius, Lar is a Scorpio...bring it on..

Std and sti testing...? - - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]We have a $40.00 co-pay. If physicians are doing their job, they will ask you questions. Whereas our physicians know that we are non-monogamous we always have a non judgmental honest conversation, with our physicians about our sexual activities since our last examinations. Testing does not replace condoms, and that is especially true if you are willing to play with someone who does not get tested on a regular basis. Swinging multiplies the swingers risk. Risk prevention is a choice. We feel less comfortable playing with someone who always uses protection but never gets tested than someone who may have occasionally foregone protection but gets tested regularly so long as they have been tested since the last time they had swing sex without or really even with protection. Which leads into the next paragraph. Sometimes people choose to form relationships involving maybe just two couples, or a small group of people that get tested on a regular basis and remain exclusive, partly so that they can play without condoms. Yes there are still risk, and you have to be really careful about who is in the group, and really who even knows about the group. Yes we have been part of a group like that in the past and it rocks! Oh well, people get new jobs and move away, or go back to monogamy, or want to play the field again and groups disband. We would do it again with the right group of people. We count ourselves lucky that as swingers we have remained healthy. Swinging is risky. Certain types of activities add to the risk. Anything that increases the level anonymity between sex partners, or decreases any participants level of personal choice and control adds to their risk. Testing and condoms reduce the risk but they do not eliminate it. We all make our own risk verses reward choices. Testing at least lets us know that at that point in time we appear to be safe to play without putting our lovers at risk.[/quote] Dear Delicious— thank you so much for your thoughtful reply/discussion here. There ARE a lot of factors and risks to consider while in the Lifestyle; we’re all after fun, right? Good to be thinking of ways to avoid negative consequences that would put a big damper on the fun...

Date for a party.... - - Hi all. Sometimes we see an invitation for a party on this website. You see: Coming to xxxx this weekend? Please add a date for that weekend. Now you cannot see immediately if this weekend is history already. A swingers hug from The Netherlands.

PARTY!!!!!!!!!! PARTY!!!!!!!!!! PARTY!!!!!!!!!! - Laborday Lust-A-Thon in Minneapolis, MN - Well hello one and all. Summer is almost over, so what better way to say goodbye than to have a kickass party!!!! I'm pretty sure when our founding fathers first put quill to paper they had the hope that they were creating a new land based on the premise of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness....LET'S GET SOME HAPPINESS YA'LL We gonna have a Labor day Lust-A-Thon!!!! Come on out Labor Day weekend and celebrate your day away from the man the way only swingers know how, by exercising your constitutional right to party!!!!!!! When I thought up the idea of having a Labor Day party, some thought I was mad, some thought I was crazy...THE FOOLS!!!! (cue maniacal laughter) This looks like it will be one of the BIGGEST turnouts ever, and it's all happening because of you......kudos. The festivities will begin on Friday September 3rd with a get together/bar meet at Jillian's High Life Lanes in Bloomington, Minnesota (that's in the Mall Of America) from 8 pm till. E402 E. Broadway Bloomington, MN 55425 952.854.5483 If you've never been there it used to be Gatlin Brothers Music City. Next to Players Restaurant, and across from Gators. We meet in the bowling alley by the bowling ball rack by the last bowling lane (We'll be the rowdy folks on the couch). There is no charge. Then the Fun continues with a party on Saturday Sept. 4th starting at 8:00 p.m. which will continue into the night of Sunday Sept. 5th. The donation for this little endeavor is 10.00 American per cpl or single (to cover expenses) and a dish to share with other party goers (chips, salad, etc.) And we'll supply the 2 King BR suite with full kitchen and the buffalo wings (we're ordering 200, so bring an appetite) And the weekend will wind down with a potluck cookout on Labor Day Monday September 6th at Como Park in St. Paul. Come on down and party up . Bring your friends, your lovers, your neighbors (since it IS that kinda party) , or that special couple you've just been dying to break in. So come on out, release the freak, and party with the big dogs (If you miss it, don't hate yourself too much....you're still a good person gosh darn it!!). To get on the list just email [email protected] Let's make the Labor Day Lust-A-Thon out to be one of the biggest freak fests in the upper Midwest, and try to make sure we have more partying than the law allows. Come one come all, and lets make a memory Ya'll!!! Labor Day Lust-A-Thon.....It's not just a party, It's an event!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even a knife may shatter. Even a man may fall.

What are swingers really looking for ?Are they looking for frien - Has the happen to you. - This happen on another swingers site but our profile is the same as the one on here and it says that We will chat with couples and get together and become friends. (But no sexual stuff.) I did not save the first e-mail this couple send us but there profile says while friendship is nice,we aren't looking for best friends.We are looking for playmates!So I send them Hey! Thank You for writing. Right now I don't think we are compatible, good luck in your search. And they send me Hey! Sorry didn't realize you were expecting! So to explain more I send them Hey! We are very new to the lifstyle.We are looking for only friendship from couples.My husband is not ready to see me with another man.(watching,playing or sex)In your profile you said that friendship is nice but that you are looking for playmates.You are execting more then we can give and we are execting more then you can give.And they send me We Really do not know what you are talking about,just from your pictures it appeared you were pregnant, but remember this is a "swing" website, if your looking for a lady you might go to a "lesbian" website..And if your looking for friendship and campanionship, you might go to church. There is one on every corner! Happy Emailing! And then they blocked me. First of all why did they e-mail us when if they read our profile they would have known that we will chat with couples and get together and become friends. (But no sexual stuff.) Second of all I was trying to be nice by explaining, why did they have to be so mean. Third of all I had a baby two year ago and I am still trying to loss it,it has been very hard. Fourth of all I do go to church,but that is not the friendship and campanionship I am looking for. We are very new to the lifestyle so did we do something wrong here? :(

Same Sex Marriage - If you support - Well to make clear this is the MRS part of Stitchutah, I can't speak for him. As for me, I have to admit there are some of you whom posted that make some good points, and then there are some that make no sense to the forum at all. LOL! I really like some of your opinions and you make good points, such as Kinbaku, Thoughtgarden, and to some extent REally98. I have to say though that even though I have read every post to this topic I really don't know where I stand on this issue of same sex marriage. I have to be honest and say, I am torn. Some of you can respect that and others will bash it, but either way.....its just honesty. I really like Kinbaku's point about who are we as swingers to judge a non traditional marriage when none of us married couples that swing and have open marriages can be considered "traditional" to the rest of the world. Infact, there are a lot of those outside of swingworld that place high judgement on our choice of lifestyle just as they do same sex marriages. ONe of you commented on (I can't remember who, maybe it was TR) or rather, asked how those that didn't agree with same sex marriages would feel if they couldn't be married to their spouse legally (excuse me if I got that question wrong, I believe that is how it was put) and I have to say to that.....being on both sides of the fence here, that if I couldn't be married to Mr Stitch, whom I love and cherish and will love and cherish for my entire life (just as I am sure a gay couple feels for their life partner) marriage to him does not change my feelings for him. I would still be with him, I would still love him just the same, my life wouldn't change as far as how I live or feel. I would still have my children and so forth. The only things it would change (which, mind you, are huge and helpful in our marriage) is our legal rights such as tax benefits, insurance (we don't have anyhow, but at least we have the option), and other things that I am not fully aware of I even have rights to. I am sure I take those rights for granited as I am sure other married couples do as well. I don't argue that point, at all. However, isn't there, and tell me if I am wrong, ways around some of those legal issues some of you have brought up (medical rights, when decision can't be made by person) by putting in a living will whom you've appointed power of attorney too? If same sex couples can't legally be married by laws set forth by the government then they just need to take extra precautions to protect what they can. They need to be proactive by doing whatever they can to protect their union. Yes, there are some things they won't be able to do anything about unless the law is changed, but there are some thing they can do, and they should do. Like I said, I still don't know what side of the fence I fall on.....I don't entirely agree with same sex marriage, however, I don't entirely disagree with it either. It to me is a complicated issue, and its very possible that I complicate it myself. Where I agree with REALLY98 ( I believe is their names) is where they state....where do you draw the line? The government has a hand in almost everything we do, including marriage, and there isn't anything we can really do to change that. I tend to agree with the statement that somewhere down the road if we move that line and say...Okay, same sex marriage is legal, then some ppl may argue well, okay, same sex marriage is okay so now, me and my spouse want to be married to our girlfriend/boyfriend or hell the couple we swing with,...... now why can't we do that, marriage isn't defined anymore as just man and women, so why isn't my rights to legalize poly okay? Some may argue, that it would never happen, but I am posistive that if you ask older ppl in the community that if they thought they'd ever see same sex marriage being brought up I am sure they would say HELL NO, we thought we'd never see that day, and yet, here it is! I just thought that was a good point that Really98 made.....now, the whole marrying an animal thing, ugggh, I really hope that day never comes, but then again, you never know what some ppl might do. (GRIN). I, for one, never will judge a same sex couple....nor do I want to EVER seem as though I am judging them. I guess I really don't think there is anything wrong with same sex marriage, truthfully. The conclusion I have made for myself is....I will live my life with my family and do what I can to raise my children to be tolerate, loving, and non judgemental. We try everyday to raise them to make their own decisions based on how THEY feel about things, not what others think (and if you don't think that isn't a task, it certainly is!!!) I think this world is getting to be more and more complicated, and it will only get worse b4 it gets better (no, I am not a dooms day person) and all we can do as parents and as a family is protect whom we love the most that being, eachother, and our children. Thats all, I am sure, everyone wants to do here whether same sex or "traditional" (however you define that) so I suppose we are really have the same agenda in mind, right?

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - I wish we could find their profile on here. We could bombard their inbox with all kinds of naughty emails to really spice up the news show tonight.