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Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Anybody know anything about the secret swingers club in Ogden, UT? Or how to get in? We're a couple looking for a fun Saturday night with like minded people!

MMF - - [quote=ONEFUNCOUPLE]Well It's great to see so many people agree with me!!!! Now I have to take baby steps with my other half so she can work up to that experience. I think she will like it and she thinks so too but she wants to get her feet wet "so to say" with just being with another girl and work up from there!!! [/quote] This is how we started FMF...I am bi and we started with just me playing with the girl and he watched, then I was comfortable enough to let him join....now we are full on swappin swingers...hahaha...love FMF, MFM, MFMF, MMFMM, and ALL other combinations...hehehe...have fun and let her set the pace...you will be happy in the end letting her do it how she feels comfortable...she will reward you for your patience...I know I did Lucky B...hehehe...kisses...Naugh-Ty and Lucky B ;)

YOLO Cruise April 26 2009 - swingers cruise - Can't wait to join you Liz & Ron .. we have already met quite a few cruisemates already (online) ... we plan on needing a vaction when we get back!! see ya at the Green Iguana Saturday night before the cruise???? Mark & Kathy .. room 6131

We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - ya mail my t shirt and boxers back god damn it, they are my only pair without stains!! lol seriously sorry to hear about your bad time S & C

Lake Powell Party 2012?? - - We are there now but not for the swingers, Have the entire family for our annual family vacation. But either way it's a kick ass trip. Hope everyone that is there is having a great time. We're camped in rock creek if anyone needs anything. A fall trip would be cool tool

Single Males - - [quote=CTA313][quote=EVILDOERS] ...get a girl to join you....Not only do you now "bring more to the table", but you have the added credibility that if you can find and finesse a girl into joining you in this little adventure we call swinging (whether it be a girlfriend, a wife, a second cousin twice removed, or just a hot fwb) you might just not be a giant douchecopter.[/quote] Ignoring the need to "finesse" someone and unhealthy gender stereotypes in general, this line of reasoning is a little troubling as it presumes that a male's company is inherently worth less. Or that an absence of semi-romantic relationships somehow speaks poorly of his character. I personally think approaching someone whom you aren't already fairly close with and soliciting to go to a swingers party is a bit out of line. Especially if her company is sought as an accessory to demonstrate to others that he is not, as you say, “a douchecopter”. Call me old-fashioned. [quote=EVILDOERS] I know we can't be the only people who secretly wonder just a little bit about some single guys and why they aren't with somebody. Do they secretly hate women (yes, we've met some that actually do), are they just too lazy (or busy, maybe...but hey, we're all busy) to find someone, are they serial killers and/or just not very nice guys? [/quote] Oh, I hope you are! That's a really unfortunate outlook to have. Promising relationships take time to find, let alone build to the requisite amount of trust and stability to try things like this. In the mean time, I don't see anything wrong with someone pursuing their interests while still holding out for someone worthy of their emotional investment. To me, that behavior is quite attractive should be respected! It doesn't get any better than someone who is confident, self-actualized, and motivated to pursue their desires. Sadly, it sounds their gender influences whether this is seen as a desirable trait. I'm not sure how long you've been out of things (30 years?), but it's easy to forget the struggle when you're comfortable in a marriage. Things are more fluid. People don't feel the need to settle down like they used to. [quote=EVILDOERS]I know many will say they've tried and swinging is a deal breaker for most women. After almost 3 decades in the swinging trenches meeting and talking to other people, both couples and singles, we would disagree....many, if not most, women could eventually come around to the idea of swinging once they feel safe and secure in a relationship.[/quote] This is just confirmation bias if the evidence comes from a sample of people you have met while swinging. [quote=EVILDOERS]...those of us who DID put in all the blood, sweat, and tears into a relationship and allow it to grow to the point of daring (don't think for a second we aren't risking a LOT in opening up our relationships to other people!) to allow others access to our significant other sometimes wonder why some others want to take a shortcut to all the sweet swinging bennies with little or no risk on their own part.[/quote] If you're not comfortable sharing your wife with someone you might view as a potential competition, you definitely don't have to. On the other hand, there are a lot of people enjoy it :) This smacks of the old “you must suffer as I did” chestnut. [/quote] Yes, I agree, "finesse" was a poor choice of words. In my defense, I was at work and rather in a hurry to make a point...that apparently I didn't make well (and my attempts to also be humorous apparently fell flat too). Rereading my post it does smack a little of mild gender bias but I can assure you that it wasn't my intent in any way and most certainly is not my outlook on women, relationships or life in general. My intent was simply to advocate approaching swinging as a mutually desirable activity that two partners desire and share equally in. And not that it matters, but I've shared my wife with probably over a hundred men, married and single, and I've never thought of any of them as competition. But I never thought of swinging as "sharing" my wife either, but instead as her deciding to be sexual with another person and me being totally okay with her decision to do so. Sharing her, to me, almost denotes some sort of ownership or at very least some kind of permission that I would have to give. Both those ideas are not a part of our relationship. Perhaps the concept of "competition" in swinging interactions is a single male attitude? I don't know. And I didn't mean it in any way, shape, or form as a "you must suffer as I did" trope but simply as the idea that we invested a LOT of hard work and time making our marriage what it is and together deciding to risk opening it up to the excitement and also the possibility of harm that is swinging. I think, perhaps, that sometimes single people in the lifestyle don't quite understand the very real possibility of permanent damage (or worse) to the relationship that couples who swing are flirting with. For many (most?) of us, our marriages/relationships are THE most precious thing we have. What, if anything, are you risking? A bruised ego?

International Swingers Day - How are you celebrating? - Wouldn't June 9th be more appropriate? [em]Emo_49[/em]

What about the lifestyle didn't meet your expectations? - Preconceptions and disappointment. - [quote=Loverofthewife]The biggest surprise for me has been how fun and friendly people in the LS generally are. We don’t play much as a couple in the Utah scene, but we have had great experiences at resorts. When I met a swinger couple for the first time at a resort, I was scared that all of the swingers in the group were going to jump me. I didn’t make eye contact, replied to their questions with short answers, and just generally avoided any conversations because I was afraid they would seduce me. 😁 Now, a few years later, it’s easy to spot the newbies. They don’t make eye contact, avoid conversation, etc. I want to just straight up tell them—I’m not going to rape you! I am just being friendly, lol! Another surprise to me was how women-lead the LS is. Most couples that we have met say they follow the lead of the woman. She chooses the who and the when.[/quote] THIS - we had no expectations, so we have not been disappointed. We did have a few ‘trainwrecks’ along the way - learning ‘the ropes’, mostly because Mr Sweet didn’t do his homework. We’ve been surprised by how much we crave more and better relationships. This LS has exceeded anything we even fantasized about. Uber cool people - cherished friendships, just not enough time to meet so many great people ... or get naked with them (grin).

San Diego clubs? - Friday June 4 - We'll be in San Diego on Friday June 4. Is there a good swingers club the wife and I could visit that night? Then we'll be in Los Angeles Sat night. What about a club there? (We've been to Sea Mountain Inn in Palm Springs and enjoyed that, but we didn't want to drive that far Sat night) Thanks!

Disabled Swingers - - We have actually encountered a somewhat local couple who we really like, and she is in a wheelchair. I'm ashamed to say that we have not become very close, other than being friendly at parties as we're unsure of what is expected and what her "disability" is. Personally, I think it would be much easier to "approach" an obviously "disabled" person/couple if there was some sort of specified background on the disability and its limitations and requirements for that person- sexually speaking.... (Perhaps a basic run-thru in your profile?) I know that several people suffer from different "ailments" that can sometimes be frustrating to potential sex partners. I myself (female half) have rheumatoid arthritis, fibromyalgia and severe colitis - none of which have responded well (if at all) to treatment. These seemingly small (compared to being in a wheelchair) ailments can have a big impact on my sex life! I cannot always be trusted to show up at a party, and when I CAN, I'm often hurting so bad that "playing" is out of the question. When I DO play, I tire more quickly than I'd like, and certain positions are out of the question. Often, meeting for dinner is uncomfortable with the digestive "issues" that follow eating... etc. etc. So when we become friendly enough with people we might be interested in playing with, I have to be up-front and let them know what they're dealing with... even tho my problems may sound trivial, they're not to me, and they can and DO end up affecting my sexual performance and my social life, or lack thereof! I don't like to say much, because to me it sounds like "whining" and the last thing I want to be is a whiner! However, we all need to realize that everyone has their own problems, obstacles, issues, etc and when we know what we're looking at, we can decide if it's going to be worth the effort to try and establish a sexual relationship. If people are aware of what you CAN do, they may be more willing to become involved. And if they're not willing to work with you and understand that you've got some limitations, but that you've still got alot going for you.. then you're probably better off without them. I hope that helps... And the very best of luck to you both! Hugz!