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The lifestyle: A single mans perspective - - Well said, brother...This lifestyle is what you make of it, and some make more than others. While we are all grownups on this site (obviously, you have to be 18 or over to sign on), you'd think there would be less of a high-school mentatlity than in, say....high school? yet, we get some of the DORKIEST , misspelled emails I've ever seen. Couple that with the responses we've gotten to some posts (like the one critisizing us for getting our vip status), and we wonder how some have remembered to breathe long enough to pass high school. So, here are some very basic tips on enjoying this lifestyle: (not that I'm an expert, but obviously some need etiquette lessons) 1) The first email / chat with someone, DON"T ask idiotic questions. And don't get TOO personal. Remember, this is like dating. If a woman at a bar showed some interest, would the next thing out of your mouth be 'What size is your bra?', or 'Do you like it in the ass?'. it's no wonder some of you are in this lifestyle, you'd never get laid otherwise. 2) Keep SOCIAL meetings SOCIAL. No one cares how long you've been a proctologist, or how much money your kids have stole from you. That's YOUR business. Polite conversation is one thing, but there's nothing worse than hearing a 3 hour lecture on YOUR life experiences, followed by 'So, would you guys like to play with us?' Yeah, as if 3) There ARE other things besides sex to chat about. In person or on the computer. That's right, SWINGERS HAVE BRAINS. and we're very able to carry on converstaion (well, some of us anyway) We were at a party once, and my other half said 'I've heard sex mentioned until I'm not turned on at the thought anymore' ...it happens, just a tip 4) Unless you're planning a very long trip, or own your own private jet, don't add someone to your friend's list here OR on yahoo that lives 3,000 miles away. Let's face it, we'll never meet. Hell, we'll probably never even talk. so what's the point? Air sex? gimme a break. 5) And probably the most important. From the first meeting, to every visit you have (if someone's lucky enough to invite you back, RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE!. Just because we have a wild orgy at the pool of a local motel with wild monkeys and lots of cool whip, it DOES NOT MEAN TO GROPE US EVERYTIME YOU SEE US. We're in couples for a reason, to be in a couple. And just because we're turned on by you, or have sex, doesn't mean you own our bodies afterward. That's what your spouse/gf/bf is for. And most of us aren't here for love. NEWSFLASH...WE'RE HERE FOR SEX! These are just off the top of my head, after recieving some horrible emails, and experiencing some terrible meetings. Oh, yeah, and in response to the post, most single guys DO get a hard time in the lifestyle. But good, they should. This is about the couples, single guys are VERY easy to come by. And those who have treated us with RESPECT have been treated EXCEPTIONALLY WELL. Bravo on a great post, and good luck to you sir! Him p.s. anything I missed? list it below!

Ankle bracelet = hot wife ? - - [quote=Relax][quote=EVILDOERS]If Ms. Evil wearing THIS necklace (and pulling on it repeatedly thru the evening) doesn't evoke visions of hotwifery to the vanillas then wearing a generic ankle bracelet sure the fuck isn't going to. [img]https://i.gifer.com/7J7X.gif[/img][/quote] That is hilarious. I think that works so much better than the ankle bracelet.[/quote] Right? And they aren't even that expensive unless you get them in sterling silver or gold. We gave them out as party favors once, back in the day. I vote that these necklaces (you can find them all over the internet) become THE official/unofficial sign for hotwives and/or swingers. Most vanillas wouldn't even know what they are unless you pulled on it to make it erect. LOL

How to find other swingers - - Kids use wristbands in NC to talk about sex? I am positive that mine get right to the point. I KNOW we taught her about the "birds and the bees" better than that! Luvbugs (mR.) ;)

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Hosting a swingers Party - - Blk & White ~ There are many ways to go about this, but one of the better ways is to first arrange a "cocktail hour" in the Hotel lounge. Have the couples meet there. Before you give out the suite number, collect what their share of the cost is. If anyone refuses to kick in, don't be embarassed to ask them to please leave, and be sure never to invite them again.

Latest Tiger Woods Family Portrait - - One thing I love about a forum it does expose those folks with NO SENSE of humor. All the late night shows are having fun with this story, I can't wait to see what SNL has to offer, should be a hoot. If we can make fun photos and jokes about "Presidents" (and we have for as long as I can remember) I don't think a "golfer" should be off limits, which of course [u]he's not[/u]. Here's some jokes posted in another swingers forum here in Florida, so far I haven't seen anyone there start [b]whining and crying [/b]about the jokes. Perhaps our over exposure to sunshine has caused our [b]HUMOR ORGAN [/b]to become [b]ENLARGED[/b]. Apparently the police asked Tiger's wife how many times she hit him. She said "I don't know exactly

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Playing Alone - - Couples all have different rules. Many categorically refuse to play alone with ANYONE ever. This is their "security" place. They feel comfortable in the place where they can see each other and "protect" if necessary. It takes some people a long time to get passed this. It's kind of a 'control' thing leftover from the vanilla life. I'm not saying it's bad, good or indifferent it's just the way it is. Some people take longer to get passed their histories as vanillas than others. As they progress and get more comfortable with themselves, the lifestyle, their partners then they will slowly open up and begin to trust a bit more. Don't take it personally, that's the key. Many people still hang on to their vanilla background that their partners are their most 'valued' possession. I liken it to my $450 deep sea fishing reel. Sure I'll loan it to someone to use if I'm on the boat with them and can make sure they're taking care of it. Is there anyone I'd just let 'borrow' it out right for the day or weekend? Not a chance in hell. It takes time to let go of that 'she's/he's mine' get feeling. I think my wife and I took almost 6 years before we got there successfully. We tried many times before that but it never worked out well for either of us. We finally came to a point where it's okay to play separately everything from next room to next state it no longer bothers us. I personally prefer within 30 - 50 miles so she get's home faster for the "after play" sex you're describing (which I really like too.) You'll have to find a VERY secure, VERY established, VERY strong couple to fulfill your fantasy. They are out there, my wife and I for example but even though we're open to playing separately are we open to YOU playing with her or me separately? That's a different level of trust. Does it mean no? No. It means "maybe" in time it's a possibility. (I'm speaking hypothetically of course.) Don't worry your "couple" or "person" will come along. You might also try investigating a subsection of the lifestyle called "hotwifeing" while I know few swingers who are hardcore into only hotwifing, there are quite a few that tip toe in that part of the lifestyle (quick def, she plays he doesn't except with her.) That's the post play joy for you and the play and post play joy for her. Most people just bounce between that and swinging. There are people out there just be patient and don't expect it from any current playmates that you have established rules with, they need to progress at their own speed.

swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - man look who is already whining i do not care if i the best spelllers i do not care u it make u feel good about your self calling other names and things like that do so, enjoy life so if anyone else wants to step up and call me name go for it i have big shoulders for this or i would have not started the forum so who next you TR go for it i do not care or if any one of your forums buddies wantds i am speaking my peace , i THINK alot of u whining babies need to take your own advice , and i know alot of u will have NOOOOOO clue what that means.. so as i have said before ENJOY LIFE and fuck every one else who gets in your way and as Larry the cable guy says"""Get'r' done"

Finding a balance - Swinging and Religion - - I do think that the Christian church has it wrong regarding non-adulterous sex. After all Jesus said that the law was made up of love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself. That says nothing about voluntary, non-cheating sex. I hope there is a Christian Swingers group (When the groups are back up) because this is a good topic, I learned a lot from a group on another site. Here is an interesting site: http://www.libchrist.com/ Mr. C