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KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - Just watched the story on the news and was EXTREMELY relieved it wasn't aired on a Get Gephardt segment. LOL Yeah, so the lady in question said she decided to swing with her husband to save her marriage after she gained a lot of weight (guess swinging is easier than a diet or taking up jogging) and that they went to "orgies" all over Utah...naming several cities and "even Bountiful" (the story showed the Bountiful temple a few times during the piece- she said being a Mormon she felt very uncomfortable swinging in a home within view of the temple). She also claimed that she was at a house party and the hosts young kids walked in. She says she started drinking because going to parties she felt like she was in the 5th grade where you wouldn't be chosen for a team...her husband was chosen to play but she wasn't. She has to go to rehab for her drinking. Eventually she wanted to quit but her husband supposedly refused and started going out solo and gave her gonorrhea. They are now divorced. Heidi Hatch was the reporter and apparently she started a profile and was communicating with couples here on Singular (yes, they identified Swingular by name and showed numerous screen shots and even some profile names) who wanted to make sure swinging wasn't portrayed in a purely negative manner. They also had a totally Mormon marriage and family therapist who talked frequently throughout the story. Here is the link to the story on the KUTV website. Oh, and they mention Habits and Club 90. [url=http://kutv.com/news/local/dangerous-liaisons-the-popular-state-of-swinging-in-utah]Swinging Story[/url] There was a hyperlink to Swingular in the online story that now is inactive. Guess too many Elder's Quorum Presidents were logging in to get their jollies. [em]Emo_67[/em]

Swingers Next Door! - ABC news story on Swinging! - I've heard that the A&E show is just what I thought it'd be, the young & beautiful and tension emanating from the vanilla neighbors. Of the 3 things I expected, so far, apparently, there hasn't been a marriage destroyed by swinging, but I'd be surprised if that doesn't turn out to be part of this "reality" show. But after just 1 episode, it looks like I'm 2 out of 3. I'm sorry, but I really think the show is an attempt, probably successful, to exploit something most people would find edgy and fascinating. I'd love to see a REAL reality show about swingers, but somehow I doubt that will ever happen because it wouldn't fit the "successful TV show" formula well enough. The closest I know of to an honest portrayal of things society thinks are taboo was that "real sex" series. And look how long that lasted. Certainly not long enough to have covered the many things that would have fit into the show's premise. If it was still running now there'd still be lots of things out there for new episodes. My suspicion is that while the title might have been, the actual shows just weren't sensational enough for it to be a long term success. ~ Terry

can we swing and still not be in sin ? - - YES WE CAN ! there is ways males and females may swing and thay will not be in sin I WILL BE BACK TO EXPLAIN......ok, I am back and will define the issue as much as i can and realy want to see your knowledge and views, so first let me say some major history that all people in the world know and should know Especially all people liveing in The United States Of America our beloved country witch its finding fathers inscribed in every coin and dollar " IN GOD WE TRUST " , I will start with the Presidential Recognition of Ancient code of Ethics House Joint Resolution 104, public Law 102-14 That reads : President George Bush signed an historic resolution of both congressional Houses , Recognizing The Noachide Laws as the " bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization " He urged the U.S. to take lead in " Returning The world to the Ethical Values contained in the seven Noahide Laws " . so we the people know what is right and wrong ,we the swingers want to know what we may or may not , YES INDEED we most of us in swinging are not stupid and fear God's award and punshment and this is the point of this thread i am asking all who fallow a religion what does your religion permit in swinging and is not called SIN for example , such as all singles may swing and it is not a SIN all males can fuck up any female including your wifey provided your are not fucking a wifey married according to your religion or soft swap laws pent. laws the diff. laws that apply only to males or only females , there are so many diff. laws lets talk about it and sort it out , we all know the basic laws of Noachide and i found most swingers go by it , some had said to me 'with you or in this case or this couple we can go only soft swap' it was amazing to me to hear this from a swinger... let me put it this way" we swingers are Religius waste up on top of the belt... but very liberal waste or belt down" i would like to add to the people who claim "atheism" you people are Equivalent to cannibals if you are not afraid of god you can kill ,steal , rape, do anything a big animal does to a small one or as a big fish does to a small fish and that is scary you are willing to murder if you won't get caught !!! i would not play or even be with you behind closed doors......NOTE to readers all postings after i came back to define this issue starts after page 3 please reply to the "sex laws " of your religion only we are not here to debate or dispute any religion thanks;) ;)

Help us understand double standard?? - - Ok all.... first dont flame us just a simple question. Why is there people in the swing lifestyle that dont swing both ways? Let me explain why are there so many swingers that only seek females? Isnt the purpose in swinging to trade partners? Why does only the female seek the pleasure? Is it just us that feels this way? Seems a double standard. Whats in it for him if you only seek pleasure for her? Seems selfish to us... sorry to rant and rave just need to vent:) hope we are not the only ones that feel this way

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - THANK YOU, HOTTIEHOGANS....there are some single guys out there who are NOT ASSHOLES. Sadly though, we get clumped into the bunch who are. Nice to see someone knows the difference!

Creating an Amazing Swingers Profile - How to market yourself better - [b]Creating a Great Swingular Profile[/b] This was being discussed in another thread, but I'm going to share some thoughts as someone who has now experimented with a LOT of different photo and profile combinations to see what gets the best response. I also have some experience and expertise in Internet marketing and sales that has applied itself well to the swinger world. =) Our profile and photos are by no means perfect. I can think of at least a dozen things I want to adjust, add, or change. It's a process. The first thing we need to accept is that our profiles are a marketing tool. We are trying to stand out from the crowd and show others why we are unique. Investing time in your profile will have big returns. The second thing we need to accept is that looks really do matter. A lot. Don't lie about your looks, don't mis-represent your looks. Be proud of what you look like.. you'll find that the quality of the experiences you have goes WAY up. ----------- [b](1) Your Account Status should be PAID and VIP. [/b] Anyone not willing to invest a couple of bucks to be a paid member of this site is not a swinger. Period. (If you see a profile from anyone who is not a paid member.. SKIP IT). You should also attend one of the major events in order to get a "VIP" label (verified in person). It's proof you're a real couple who's really interested in swinging. (And, again, anyone without this label should be treated with extreme caution). ------------ [b](2) Your PUBLIC photos NEED to show what you look like. [/b] This doesn't mean you need to show your faces on your public photos. But you DO need to give others a sense for what your body type is. If people see a poorly lit shot of just an ass, the first assumption is that you are hideous and your giant, dim ass is literally your best feature. While there are a few couples on here for whom that is probably true, the odds are you can do much better. If you're short and chubby, that's fine.. Other people should know that!! You may quickly discover that other short and chubby people are excited to find someone with a similar body type they can hook up with! (Rule #1 of swinging: People generally prefer to hook up with other people who are of similar age, and similar body type..... ) Your public profile photos are the very first thing other people are going to see. (Trust me, they don't read your profile until AFTER they've seen your photos). Put on some nice clothes and take the best neck-down shots you can manage! Avoid photos from the Halloween party. People are trying to figure out what you look like -- not what you look like when you're wearing a disguise. If you post photos that are a mis-representation of what you look like in ANY way, people are going to hate you the instant they meet you -- before you've even had a chance to speak. If your strategy is to lie about your looks (by posting old or misleading photos), hoping that you'll make up for it in the personality department, you're still a liar... and you can go fuck yourself for wasting everyone's time. To that end: - Don't post any photos of you that are more than a year old. - Don't post any photos of you that are off by more than 20-lbs. (If you got fat since you took that photo, DELETE IT). - Don't post any photos that zoom in on just one part of your body. (you can still show your body, in general, without showing your face). - There's nothing wrong with a fully-clothed photo if you think it helps make you look better. [color="red"]Please do not fuck anyone who doesn't follow these rules. Even (especially) if you are married to that person.[/color] ------------ [b](3) Your profile should be well thought out and well written [/b] Nobody is going to read your profile until after they've looked at your photos. So if you haven't taken care of #1 and #2 above, don't bother with the profile. First and formost, run it through a spell-checker and a grammar checker. Seriously. If you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're", you might as well have world's smelliest vagina, because you are nasty and gross. Second, your profile should CAREFULLY describe the kind of people you're trying to meet. Bad: "We want to meet people of similar mindset." Good: "We're trying to find people who are well-groomed and open to full-swap. We don't mind people who have sex on a first-date, but we really like to spend a few hours together first to get to know one another." See the difference? The second example provided REAL information and REAL insight into what you're after. The first is a complete waste of the internet. If you provide information about your hobbies, be specific. It'll help you stand out more, and may even give you some things to talk about on your first date. Instead of saying you like "Football", say who your favorite teams are. Instead of saying you like "camping", mention WHERE you like to go camping. Instead of saying you like to eat out, mention some of your favorite restaurants and why.. All of these things will help your personality show through, and make you stand out. Your profile should mention your experience level in some amount of detail. How long have you been swinging? Why do you do it? What are you hoping to find? What's your dream-date? All of these things will help other couples feel more comfortable about reaching out to you. Spend some REAL time on your profile. It may take you several hours, or even several nights of work to get it right. It should be confident, it should describe things that make you unique, and it should be INTERESTING. Also, keep your profile up to date. There's nothing worse than seeing someone who's profile says "We are new to this", only to see that it was last updated 6 years ago. Anyone who hasn't taken the time to fill out a profile should be equally as suspect as people in the #1 or the #2 category. If they don't have at least two full paragraphs, MOVE ALONG. They are probably just picture-collectors and/or they are not serious about swinging. They are here to waste your time. ------------ [b](4) Sorry... But your PRIVATE photos need to show your face. [/b] You already showed what your body-type is in the public photos, so no need to rehash that here. But you do need pictures of your faces in your private profile. If you're worried that swingular will get hacked and the photos will leaked... First, the photos of your face don't need to show your naughty bits.. (Deny, deny, deny!!) and second, if swingular is hacked, a leaked photo is the least of your problems. (Especially if it doesn't show your junk!) In other words, one or two simple G-rated face-picture in your private photo section is an essential part of communicating to another couple who you are and what you're all about. (The same rules above apply, however, as your public photos. They should be newer photos that show your current weight and body type). The nice thing about putting them only in your private section is that you can screen who gets to see them. You should not accept every friend request that comes across your desk. If the person sending you a friend request hasn't taken care of #1, #2, and #3 above, IGNORE THE REQUEST! THEY ARE A WASTE OF TIME.. they are most likely picture-collectors, and not actual swingers. If they HAVE taken care of #1, #2, and #3 above, then there's a reasonable chance they're for real, and you can trust them to have a peek at your faces. One more (controversial) comment.. My experience is that people who are unwilling to show their faces in their private photos are typically the kind of people who will bring other types of drama into your life. Skip them. Move on. They are not worth your time. Beware of face-pictures that are extreme close-ups.. done in poor lighting.. or have excessive makeup. These people are hiding something from you. If you 'friend' someone and open their private photos to realize that you still have NO idea what they look like.. RUN!!!!!!!! [b](5) Seriously... stop posting so many pictures of your junk. [/b] The close-up pictures of the pussies and the cocks are super gross. (And let's face it.. if our goal is to make someone LIKE us, posting close-up pics of our plumbing is UNLIKELY to make that happen). Nobody has EVER said "Man, I'd really like to contact this couple.. but I would feel a lot more comfortable doing so if I could examine his cock / her pussy in extreme detail first." Seriously.. it's just gross. ------ [b]If you found this information helpful, you can thank us by buying us drinks, and maybe even showing us extreme close-ups of your genitalia!! (In person.. not photos). [/b]

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How Old Is Old - - hey blueeyes, from our perspective at least, we think you are probably right and probably wrong at the same time!!! . . . you are right about being in the minority relative to the kind words offered by most in this post, but we really believe you are also part of the vast majority of swingers who use age as a primary basis for discrimination . . . kind of a strong opinion we suppose, except that we can see at least 4 different ways anyone can pretty easily check for age discrimination providing some basis for that opinion . . . BUT, before we go into all of that, please understand that we realize that everyone is entitled to discriminate in any way they see fit . . . in fact, discrimination is not just ok, it is absolutely necessary!!! . . . you see, no one has enough time to sample from every cup (sigh!!!), so everyone has to establish discriminating criteria . . . and, for sure, we're NOT feelin' sorry for ourselves; we realize it's just part of the deal . . . there is one more thing to mention before listing ways to check for age discrimination: we think there is a pretty easy and logical answer for the OP . . . those tired of reading already, can skip to the bottom and get that opinion . . . however, we kinda hope peeps continue reading 'cause, sooner or later, age is an issue everyone will face . . . so, how does one check for age discrimination??? . . . try this: pick any population center (like slc) . . . open a bunch of profiles in that population from different age groups (say, 30's, 40's, 50's, and beyond) . . . record the number of times each profile was "recently viewed" (ya know, that little statistic conveniently provided by swingular) . . . then, simply compare the numbers for the different age groups . . . if your sample is big enough, you will see profile interest decreases with age . . . if you don't want to do the math, just talk with folks of all ages and ask them what they see . . . i know many (most???) complain like crazy about email (but somehow, everyone seems ok with tweeting, texting, facebooking, etc - - - hmmm???) . . . and, shit, there is always face-to-face (omg!!!) . . . so anywho, find an acceptable way to communicate, just ask, and keep track of what people say . . . we've done that to some extent, without any surprises . . . (although this method takes a bit more time, it has the added benefit of allowing you to connect with others) . . . another way to look for age discrimination centers on visiting other swing sites . . . we won't mention those competitors, 'cause we don't want to upset swingular management . . . but, hey, most all of us know where to look anyhow . . . in our experience, virtually all other sites list age preferences inside each profile . . . so, open a bunch of 'em and note age preferences . . . if your sample is big enough, you will see that there is almost no interest in those beyond 55 . . . it's almost like a cliff, and that somehow, sex, sensuality, desirability, etc, have an expiration date . . . we would like to think that it really depends on the individuals involved . . . and finally, there is an acid test: simply stick around the lifestyle . . . sooner or later, you will have a personal verification of the age discrimination issue . . . btw, we hope you do stick around, and we hope you have a great time doing it . . . so, how old is too old??? . . . we simply believe you are too old when finding suitable partners becomes too hard . . . what is "too hard" and who is "suitable" will vary for everyone, so the chronological marker for every swinger will be a bit different . . . but, the bottom line is the same: you are too old when this business gets too hard . . . btw, we certainly hope our time doesn't come too soon!!! . . . cheers!!! . . .

Sexy swingers closer to our age - 20-30 year old sexy swingers - 30m, currently single but with unicorn and couple friends I do things with. When there isn't a pandemic going on I usually host a monthly-ish naughty game night for our core group plus anybody we find who wants to join us. Group is usually mid-twenties to mid-thirties age-wise, with a leaning towards dancers and nerds. Let me know if you want an invite down the road :)