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Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - [quote=CRAZYFOXTCU]From certain perspectives yes that's what I'm saying. Religion twists things but from the view of an Islamic extremest what those terrorists did on that plane was the pinnacle of a moral example. From our point of view it was horrid and sick. We are in the out group to these terrorists and religion has warped their view so that they think they need to defend the ideals of their in group. Understanding that they believe they are doing good things doesn't excuse them from the bad things they do. Like how the Pope isn't innocent for using his influence to stop people from using condoms in countries riddled with AIDS and parent less children. He believes he is doing right but is inexcusable.[/quote] I am afraid I have to agree. I think morality is a moving object and simply a point of view. It does not take religion or lack of it to make you moral because morality is a self designation and has no absolutes. If we pass laws to protect morality based on an absolute definition of morality, then we are climbing out on a limb and cutting it off behind us. I think hellokity defined the goal when she said

Tooele swingers party 2 - Doing our second party - [quote=Harleynight12345678]Are singles invited?[/quote] Well that's a Harley the Misses would like to ride!

Swinger Friendly Businesses - Business or services friendly to swingers - Anyone on the site do professional erotic photography? In the SLC area

BUSTED! Your Kids Found Out Your Swingers. Now What? - - Our kids our older and they know we're nudist...;) The oldest daughter kind of has an idea that we swing but, has kept it to herself. Actually, we know C's daughter, son-in-law, and middle son have been playing with friends... So, I guess we can turn the question around...hehehe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now "SPERMINT" like a true NEO-CON injects total conjecture, hearsay, and innuendo into a purely innocent question. As usual he has no hard evidence or facts to back up his pathetic statement. Hey, "SPERMINT" be a nice TROLL and go away and hide before you embarass yourself again. Oh, to late... Surf, out...

Denver. what to do? - Headed to Denver next week, what must duo's are there? - I've lived on and off in Boulder/Denver for over 12 years and I can tell you the LS scene is booming! Yes, The Ranch (scarlet ranch) is great but you have to pay to get in and it's best when there's an event like NYE or a foam party (those are great!) I would get on scarletlifestyle.com, which is their companion site kind of like Swingular. There you can meet people in the area and see what events are going on at the Ranch while you're there. So the joke in Denver is...if you go to Highlands Ranch (SW Denver) and you see white rocks in the front yard then they are swingers. Denver, or to be specific, Highlands Ranch, is home to the largest swinger/lifestyle community in the country so enjoy! For fun, Shotgun Willie's (Glendale) and La Boheme (downtown Denver), both strip clubs, are fun and fillup with LSers on Friday and Saturday nights. Otherwise, the "clubs and bars" in Denver don't generally catered to swingers unless there's a hosted event. Hope this helps.

A&E New show about swingers... - neighbors with benefits.... - Have it on our DVR but haven't watched it yet. Expecting a lot of manufactured "drama". I heard there would be a "Christian couple" as a counterpoint to these disgusting heathens. Also, in case anyone is wondering, Warren County Ohio is NOT a hotbed of swinging. Clicking thru a few stills from the promos they got one thing right. The red Solo cups they're drinking out of. [em]Emo_67[/em] Doubt it will make it unless a bunch of vanillas stumble on it and watch it for a vicarious thrill. Usually shows like these THINK they're being titillating when in fact they're just being judgmental and if that's how they edit it they'll attract a few crazy religious people who will watch it with disgust (while likely being secretly turned on) and the self satisfaction that at least THEY aren't going to hell. [em]Emo_84[/em]

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - I think it'd be fit that after the expose airs some poor schlub at the station holds on to the profile and finds the key to a lifetime of happiness herein, finally able to be themselves.

Hedonism 2 Young Swinger's Week - March 19-27 - [quote=SAMEROOMONLY]BMShell: When I crunch the numbers the resort is about $20 a night more, so a little more expensive, if you make a fair comparison and add the "all you can drink" tab to the cruise which runs about $680. We are going for 9 days Friday-Sunday, total cost is $5200. The cruise is 7 nights and will run just under $4000.[/quote] You're forgetting about the price to get to Jamaica, vs. the price to get to Florida. That's usually pretty significant. =) [quote=SAMEROOMONLY]Average age for Young Swinger week is around 33, whereas the average age for the cruise is around 45. Last YSW at Hedo hosted almost 400 people.[/quote] If you do the math, you'll find there are more younger couples on the cruise than there are at Hedo -- even during Young Swingers Week. But not by much. We like the diversity of activities / things to do on the cruise ship -- and the higher-end restaurants and accommodations. But I've heard VERY VERY good things about Young Swingers Week... I think you're going to have a blast.

Are you a Swinger or Liver? - - Would "Ethical Non Monogamy" sound better to you. What we are talking about here is leaving the external societal rules behind and doing what we feel good with, sometimes that means we set our own rules. I'm sure that you have your own rules too, of one sort or anther. The Reason we Swingers have rules is that we enter this lifestyle with our own needs and wants and the needs and wants of our mates. We need to balance both while rejecting the conventional norm. Our sex life is like something out of an erotic novel that most people can't imagine is real, but we love it, rules and all.

Is this one of your rules? What is it? is it fear? or something - Does everyone feel this way? -

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We (Tami and I) have never ran across anyone that said they didn't want to have sex and only wanted to make friends. We have ran across those that want to be friends (have trust established), first. The latter I can totally understand, as we are two people that require trust in people we play with. We also find attraction in the personality and minds of the individual. Have there been exceptions for us? Yes, however, we have found that "spur of the moment" play was unsatisfying and regrettable. We try not to label people. We just avoid those that are into something we are not. Just as a couple not into anal sex would avoid sexual contact with those seeking anal. We avoid those that want to hook-up on first meetings without inhibition. Why? There are forceful individuals, there are deviants, there are bi-sexual males that think they can touch without permission, there are people who drug others, there are people that smoke pot and others that can't be around it due to their profession. The latter doesn't have to end a friendship as we happen to be in professions that don't allow exposure, we just had to perfect a little dance with our pot smoking friends. Many people view this as a "lifestyle". We certainly view the "free thought and expression" as a "lifestyle" but the "sex with others", is a recreational thing that we can turn on and off like a switch. Sometimes we feel like playin with our swingers buddies and sometimes we just like talking, drink and having other types of fun with them. Swingers or "Libertines", as I like to refer to them, are mostly "free thinker" types so I like to interact with them on other levels as well. Though there are still those types that only swing for the sex and still have closed minds in regard to everything else. Those are the types I find strange. How you can be a conservative swinger is beyond me. However, I respect anyone's desire to fuck. So I do not judge. I just decide who fucks me and my wife. That's all. We all can't be compatible with everyone on all levels, all the time. It's impossible. Whether it's fucking or writing in the forum, there is always gonna be someone that doesn't like you. Trust me, I know this first hand. So, like ole Rick Nelson once said... You can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself. That's a rule to fuckin live by.
-Don-