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North Ogden Police - Need a fitness program - [quote=MAVENX]This group continues to amaze me, year after year. Swingers constantly say they are not treated equally yet when someone posts something different from their views, they attack just like all bigots do. The gentleman posted something that is intriguing. If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to respond. Put your effort in typing on other posts. Why does his status matter? He paid to be a member of this site just like you did. If you don't like that, go found your own site and make the rules. As for the OP, yep, very typical in Utah circles. Waste time at the local watering hole while putting on calories. No physical standards at the State level so it is no surprise. Mav[/quote] Thanks man!! You hit the nail right on the head. It is a good topic because its our tax money going to the overpaid over staffed police department. Also I am proof that their is some hatred toward the single male because I cant post a thing without taking a load of shit.

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - I THANK MY DON AND TAMI , AND ALL THE OTHERS FOR OUR FREEDOM, ITS THOSE PEOPLE THAT MAKE US WHAT WE ARE TODAY, (FREE) AND WE THANK THE ONES THAT DIED FOR OUR FREEDOM AS WEEL!! ... HEY DON JUAN, YOU LOW LIFE PICE OF FUCKING SHIT, I WOULD LOVE TO PLACE A BOMB ON YOUR NO GOOD PICE OF CRAP BODY AND WATCH YOU BLOW UP!! YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE FREE, I HOPE YOU GO TO HELL AND BURN. HOW DARE YOU TALK ALL THAT CRAP ABOUT OUR PEOPLE, WHO LEAVE BEHIND THERE WIFES, HUSBANDS, CHILDREN, AND FAMILYS TO GIVE US FREEDOM. YOUR NOT A MAN AT ALL JUST A COWARD P.O.S. TAMI AND DON FORGET THIS LOW LIFE LOOSER!!! THE REST OF US ARE PROUD OF YOU AND ALL YOU OTHERS WHO HELP WITH OUR BEAUTIFUL FREEDOM! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! XO AMANDA

Keeping safe - Single females staying safe - [quote=EVILDOERS][quote=CHEFFETTE][quote=EVILDOERS]Hell, we've had guys write us and ask to meet them and their wives (without disclosing that we're swingers) and suggest that we get the wife really drunk and then have sex with them.[/quote]That is just plain awful. What a nightmarish scenario for everyone involved but the guy getting his rocks off watching his wife raped.[/quote] Didn't you hear? According to a legislator from Pleasant Grove it might not be rape if she's unconscious. [em]Emo_62[/em] [url=http://www.sltrib.com/news/2136918-155/utah-lawmaker-questions-whether-sex-with]Stupid Utah Lawmaker[/url][/quote] I didn't hear about that, probably b/c I was out buying a ticket to fly off this planet where I don't care to live w/ people like that pandering toolbag who's clearly never known someone close to him who's been sexually assaulted. There's no slippery slope here - if consent isn't enthusiastically given (context considered), there's no consent. ETA - [url=http://www.sltrib.com/news/2140556-155/utah-lawmaker-apologizes-after-comments-on]looks like he's been rapped on the knuckles well by others already.[/url] [img]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/clubpenguinpookie/images/3/32/Grumpy_Cat_Good.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140306235947[/img]

Same Sex Marriage - If you support - Well to make clear this is the MRS part of Stitchutah, I can't speak for him. As for me, I have to admit there are some of you whom posted that make some good points, and then there are some that make no sense to the forum at all. LOL! I really like some of your opinions and you make good points, such as Kinbaku, Thoughtgarden, and to some extent REally98. I have to say though that even though I have read every post to this topic I really don't know where I stand on this issue of same sex marriage. I have to be honest and say, I am torn. Some of you can respect that and others will bash it, but either way.....its just honesty. I really like Kinbaku's point about who are we as swingers to judge a non traditional marriage when none of us married couples that swing and have open marriages can be considered "traditional" to the rest of the world. Infact, there are a lot of those outside of swingworld that place high judgement on our choice of lifestyle just as they do same sex marriages. ONe of you commented on (I can't remember who, maybe it was TR) or rather, asked how those that didn't agree with same sex marriages would feel if they couldn't be married to their spouse legally (excuse me if I got that question wrong, I believe that is how it was put) and I have to say to that.....being on both sides of the fence here, that if I couldn't be married to Mr Stitch, whom I love and cherish and will love and cherish for my entire life (just as I am sure a gay couple feels for their life partner) marriage to him does not change my feelings for him. I would still be with him, I would still love him just the same, my life wouldn't change as far as how I live or feel. I would still have my children and so forth. The only things it would change (which, mind you, are huge and helpful in our marriage) is our legal rights such as tax benefits, insurance (we don't have anyhow, but at least we have the option), and other things that I am not fully aware of I even have rights to. I am sure I take those rights for granited as I am sure other married couples do as well. I don't argue that point, at all. However, isn't there, and tell me if I am wrong, ways around some of those legal issues some of you have brought up (medical rights, when decision can't be made by person) by putting in a living will whom you've appointed power of attorney too? If same sex couples can't legally be married by laws set forth by the government then they just need to take extra precautions to protect what they can. They need to be proactive by doing whatever they can to protect their union. Yes, there are some things they won't be able to do anything about unless the law is changed, but there are some thing they can do, and they should do. Like I said, I still don't know what side of the fence I fall on.....I don't entirely agree with same sex marriage, however, I don't entirely disagree with it either. It to me is a complicated issue, and its very possible that I complicate it myself. Where I agree with REALLY98 ( I believe is their names) is where they state....where do you draw the line? The government has a hand in almost everything we do, including marriage, and there isn't anything we can really do to change that. I tend to agree with the statement that somewhere down the road if we move that line and say...Okay, same sex marriage is legal, then some ppl may argue well, okay, same sex marriage is okay so now, me and my spouse want to be married to our girlfriend/boyfriend or hell the couple we swing with,...... now why can't we do that, marriage isn't defined anymore as just man and women, so why isn't my rights to legalize poly okay? Some may argue, that it would never happen, but I am posistive that if you ask older ppl in the community that if they thought they'd ever see same sex marriage being brought up I am sure they would say HELL NO, we thought we'd never see that day, and yet, here it is! I just thought that was a good point that Really98 made.....now, the whole marrying an animal thing, ugggh, I really hope that day never comes, but then again, you never know what some ppl might do. (GRIN). I, for one, never will judge a same sex couple....nor do I want to EVER seem as though I am judging them. I guess I really don't think there is anything wrong with same sex marriage, truthfully. The conclusion I have made for myself is....I will live my life with my family and do what I can to raise my children to be tolerate, loving, and non judgemental. We try everyday to raise them to make their own decisions based on how THEY feel about things, not what others think (and if you don't think that isn't a task, it certainly is!!!) I think this world is getting to be more and more complicated, and it will only get worse b4 it gets better (no, I am not a dooms day person) and all we can do as parents and as a family is protect whom we love the most that being, eachother, and our children. Thats all, I am sure, everyone wants to do here whether same sex or "traditional" (however you define that) so I suppose we are really have the same agenda in mind, right?

Bubulaplease - Confidentiality - [quote=BUBULAPLEASE]Something that has bothered me a little bit...when we went to Lumpys the doorman asked if we were there for the Sinful event. We says yes and as we were walking down the stairs some people upstairs asked him what was going on and he said it was a swingers party. I mentioned it to a few people that night and it seemed that it was a normal occurrence. We realize that going to the events we may run into someone we know, however, people who don't know about our lifestyle also go to lumpys. I would hate for them to know there was a swingers party going on and then see us leaving or something. My question..is this normal? Is it this way at, say, Sandy Station? Do the group organizers ask for confidentiality?[/quote] Unfortunately its naive to think a doorman would actually be told how to respond or give it much thought otherwise. Its unlikely they care unless they know it would jeopardize the business these events bring in. We realize the risk of being found out but we also realize that deniability is just using the right words should you ever fall into the circumstance of being asked if you where there for the swinger event at Lumpys. So our response for someone vanilla that we know would be OMG can you believe we wondered into to that event...wow what a funny mistake(as we laugh both inside and out). Many people would prefer to not put themselves in the situation but its always best just to have a game plan on how to react for judgmental vanillas.

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Utah moms (Mormon) TikTok drama - - Curious if anyone here knew these couples? And if they knew they were swingers? Also, PSA…great you and your husband had issues don’t disclose or throw others into the limelight because your marriage failed! Definitely interesting! https://www.popsugar.com/love/soft-swap-taylor-frankie-paul-tiktok-48840913/amp

HELP!!!!!!!!! I guess we need to work on our profile - - Maybe you could add a coupon for a free bowl of soup? That's always a big hit around the holiday shopping season. If that doesn't work, be sure to add the lines about how in love you are with each other, how you are DD free and expect to stay that way, you are looking to spice up your great love life, and be sure to write NO SINGLE MALES!!! 3 times all in CAPS so people know you are REALLY serious... You don't want any of those sneaky little bastards squeaking through the cracks. Oh yeah, don't forget to dress up your profile with those fancy MySpace backgrounds. Include a picture of your sportscar, boat, and two-headed squirrel that you caught while on your exotic vacation in Rexburg ID... these all get extra points. Last but not least, you gotta have a closeup shot of your genitals. Who says that once you've seen 10,000 knobby/dried up peckers, they all look the same? When in doubt, look at the profiles of other popular people on this site, read their clever ads, and do the old "copy and paste" routine. Just don't copy their pics, people may be disappointed when they are expecting Ben and Jennifer, and they end up meeting more common folk. Warning: Don't copy our profile. It is down right stupid and was obviously written by an ignoramous. The bottom line... profiles are pretty much all the same. Writing some clever literary prose ain't gonna get you laid. The only thing I've got going for me is a hot wife (bait), alcohol (to relax the spouse of the guy who wants to fuck my wife), and chloroform (to disable the other guy's wife when she finally decides "there ain't no way she's 'taking it for the team' with that crazy bastard! " Oh yeah, one more thing.... I also was smart enough to move away from Utah to a place where there are good swinger clubs, lots of hot sexy swingers, and our law-makers aren't a bunch of old white haired guys, in funny underware, who think a good time involves green jello and an accordian player! I gotta tell my former neighbors... I've been to "The Place" and it definitely is NOT in Utah. (Note: the Cirque at Snow Bird and Catherine's Area at Alta might be the closest exception to that last statement) I hope that was helpful. Good luck with your profile. :D

how much do you tip the pizza person? - this should be good!!! - :z great topic for a swingers site! we love japan, no tipping allowed! but in other circumstances, 3 bucks as we are a small family