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The vent! - Judgements, I'm so tired of them. -
YMAN48,
Our condolences. As for your problem with swinging is concerned, I think it is that you are single. Most people have a hard time getting couples to come if there are single males allowed. This is been our experience. We are from the Pacific Northwest too and The clubs like the Ace of Hearts in Portland have nights dedicated to single guys and the couples interested.
While I think "swinging" is open for anyone's involvement, the majority has always and will most likey always be couples. Most couples don't entertain single males. Those that do, should have the right to do so. However, the majority of us don't. While you maybe one of the exceptionally polite and respectful single males that are few and far between (in our experience), most people do not want to ruin their night being bombarded by single males and most will decline to come.
Have you ever thought of bringing a date to the party? You should know that most people like things even. Try bring a date. If you are trying to remount the horse in the swinging scene you are making a mistake. Try normal dating. Trying to change the way people think because your life suddenly changed and took a turn for the worse probably won't do any good. Whether people admit it or not, swinging is a couples thing. If you want to better your chances of success with swingers, you have to play the game. Bring a date. That's best way to put it.
Again our sympathy for your loss, good luck. We wish you the best. Perhaps you should put swinging on hold and seek a basic relationship first.... I dunno man.
-Don-
"Ich habe einen kleinen Vogel in meinem Kopf."
Note: Best if viewed with Microsoft Internet Explorer version 7Oprah show on Swingers - - WOW.. we need to watch that.. if there is something going on in our neighborhood, we want to know so we can join.
The definition of cheating - - Interesting discussion. Certainly from a relationship standpoint the classic definition of cheating is being with someone other than your partner physically and/or emotionally. As swingers, however, we often hold ourselves above others and fall back on the lying and/or sneaking around aspect. Personally I feel that being dishonest with the person you hold most dear in this life to be the essence of cheating for me. When information is withheld you take away that person's prerogative to choose whether or not to stay in the relationship with you based on your actions outside of the relationship. There are a million ways people rationalize cheating. I find that a person's attitude towards cheating is a very good litmus test for the depth of their character. Now should we talk about cheating on a test or cheating other people out of their hard earned money? How about cheating on your taxes or at a poker game with friends? At what point DOES cheating become morally reprehensible or should it be "all's fair in love and war" and "every man (or woman) for himself"? Or as SIRNEWBY asserts, is self deception/lying/cheating really the only valid metric? Or did I misunderstand your point, SN? It would be interesting to get feedback from people (I'm sure there are plenty) who've been cheated on.
WHY????? - - J. Nothing negative about it, I actually read the whole post before bed. I hope some will actually read it and think before they attack, but I have a feeling that is too much to wish for... Good night swingers. *G*
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - We dedicate this to men & women out there that are sacrificing and have sacrificed their lives to the U.S.A. and her citizens, for without those sacrifices, we wouldn't be relishing in the lifestyle. So as soldiers ourselves, we salute you highspeed sons of bitches out there who make this all possible. HOOAH!
Sincerely,
Don & Tami
Swingers - a couples only lifestyle? - Are singles considered to be swingers? - We also said in our post LUSTYTWO4U:
"It'll be interesting to hear what others have to say."
And you're right - we did say "to us" - we didn't say everyone had to agree. Everyone is entitled to their ideas about the lifestyle - as we are.
New Vibrator - - We wanted to share this link with all our fellow swingers out there, even those of you who just want to play online can even get in on the fun. This new toy will allow you to play with someone in the next room to around the world. The wife here just loves the idea of someone else being able to play with here even if they can't be with her in person. We would love to see this site pick up on it and maybe offer it to their members ....... well with that all said hope to see what happens with it.
Here is the link http://www.sinulate.com/
Have fun and be Safe
W & A
Swinger Friendly Businesses - Business or services friendly to swingers - Pictures will be coming soon. They have been a low priority but my wife and I will make it a higher priority
Adult Vacation Recomendations - We need some help what to do or where to go! - [quote=WYSEXY]We went to a takeover in Vegas at the Rumor that was an absolute Blast...four full nights of Debauchery!!![/quote]
That would be fun.. how often do they do those?
Takeover is definitely the key... don't try to mix the swingers vacation with the vanilla's. =)
Curiouscpl91 - Identifying lifestylers - [quote=SHENANIGANIZER]We were at Leatherheads two Fridays ago, and I'm almost positive that we saw two different swinger groups. But like you said, we didn't want to disrespect anyone by asking them if they liked to fuck other people's spouses.[/quote]
To be fair, there are LOTS of people who like to fuck other people's spouses who aren't swingers. [em]Emo_49[/em]
And not to belabor the point but I think the odds of identifying fellow swingers (outside of a lifestyle party) based on what jewelry they're wearing is only slightly higher than asking random strangers on the street if they work at Costco. [em]Emo_67[/em]
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